will this ever end? I think this is the last of all the channels w football that it can fight with.
FS1 gonna get shut down too right?

Related:

AT&T considers getting rid of DirecTV as TV business tanks, WSJ reports

Quote:TV business in rapid decline

AT&T completed the purchase of DirecTV in July 2015, with high hopes of dominating the pay-TV business using both DirecTV satellite and a new online service based on DirecTV. But AT&T's total number of video subscribers dropped from 25.4 million in Q2 2018 to 22.9 million in Q2 2019, and AT&T told investors last week that it expects to lose another 1.1 million TV customers in the third quarter.

Since April, AT&T has been facing a class-action lawsuit alleging that it lied to investors in order to hide the failure of its DirecTV Now streaming TV service. Last week, the lawsuit was updated to include allegations that AT&T supervisors encouraged sales reps to create fake DirecTV Now accounts and sign AT&T customers up for DirecTV Now "without the customer knowing."

Dish used to be the one that got into disputes all the time. AT&T is telling Dish to hold their beer

(09-21-2019 03:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Related:

AT&T considers getting rid of DirecTV as TV business tanks, WSJ reports

Quote:TV business in rapid decline

AT&T completed the purchase of DirecTV in July 2015, with high hopes of dominating the pay-TV business using both DirecTV satellite and a new online service based on DirecTV. But AT&T's total number of video subscribers dropped from 25.4 million in Q2 2018 to 22.9 million in Q2 2019, and AT&T told investors last week that it expects to lose another 1.1 million TV customers in the third quarter.

Since April, AT&T has been facing a class-action lawsuit alleging that it lied to investors in order to hide the failure of its DirecTV Now streaming TV service. Last week, the lawsuit was updated to include allegations that AT&T supervisors encouraged sales reps to create fake DirecTV Now accounts and sign AT&T customers up for DirecTV Now "without the customer knowing."

If there is one company I have a real blood lust for trust busting and dismantling relentlessly .... it's AT&T.

(09-21-2019 05:37 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 03:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Related:

AT&T considers getting rid of DirecTV as TV business tanks, WSJ reports

Quote:TV business in rapid decline

AT&T completed the purchase of DirecTV in July 2015, with high hopes of dominating the pay-TV business using both DirecTV satellite and a new online service based on DirecTV. But AT&T's total number of video subscribers dropped from 25.4 million in Q2 2018 to 22.9 million in Q2 2019, and AT&T told investors last week that it expects to lose another 1.1 million TV customers in the third quarter.

Since April, AT&T has been facing a class-action lawsuit alleging that it lied to investors in order to hide the failure of its DirecTV Now streaming TV service. Last week, the lawsuit was updated to include allegations that AT&T supervisors encouraged sales reps to create fake DirecTV Now accounts and sign AT&T customers up for DirecTV Now "without the customer knowing."

If there is one company I have a real blood lust for trust busting and dismantling relentlessly .... it's AT&T.

Google for me, then Facebook and then ATT.

(09-21-2019 12:46 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  will this ever end? I think this is the last of all the channels w football that it can fight with.
FS1 gonna get shut down too right?

No.

The contracts are not signed at the same time and not for the same duration.

It’s Sinclair, not Fox itself.

(09-21-2019 08:58 PM)sctvman Wrote:  It’s Sinclair, not Fox itself.

yeah. know here in DC it's our ABC station.

(09-21-2019 08:58 PM)sctvman Wrote:  It’s Sinclair, not Fox itself.

So then not FS1, just my fox. Great I hope the Packers are never playing the 49ers or the other gm in the double header so I can see them on sun. ticket.

Cable companies are having a tough time keeping customers, and have to pay for content. Fox wants more while the cable people can afford less and less. Customers don't want to pay for the programing they get anymore, and the industry doesn't yet know how to make that work. It will only get worse in the future.

(09-21-2019 03:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Related:

AT&T considers getting rid of DirecTV as TV business tanks, WSJ reports

Quote: sales reps to create fake DirecTV Now accounts and sign AT&T customers up for DirecTV Now "without the customer knowing."

As a Direct TV subscriber I can confirm this occurred. Wife received a bill in either July or August reflecting we signed up for all type of crap which we had not. Since AT&T acquired Direct it’s been a problem. This was the third time ‘we voluntarily signed up for services” we actually did not.

(09-22-2019 09:43 AM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 03:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Related:

AT&T considers getting rid of DirecTV as TV business tanks, WSJ reports

Quote: sales reps to create fake DirecTV Now accounts and sign AT&T customers up for DirecTV Now "without the customer knowing."

As a Direct TV subscriber I can confirm this occurred. Wife received a bill in either July or August reflecting we signed up for all type of crap which we had not. Since AT&T acquired Direct it’s been a problem. This was the third time ‘we voluntarily signed up for services” we actually did not.

That's the same crap that got Wells Fargo in hot water. Hopefully it got resolved.

As for all this, Dish's stream service (Sling) is vastly superior to Direct TV Now. I'm not surprised it never took off.

(09-22-2019 09:59 AM)VNova Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 09:43 AM)TheChosenOne Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 03:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Related:

AT&T considers getting rid of DirecTV as TV business tanks, WSJ reports

Quote: sales reps to create fake DirecTV Now accounts and sign AT&T customers up for DirecTV Now "without the customer knowing."

As a Direct TV subscriber I can confirm this occurred. Wife received a bill in either July or August reflecting we signed up for all type of crap which we had not. Since AT&T acquired Direct it’s been a problem. This was the third time ‘we voluntarily signed up for services” we actually did not.

That's the same crap that got Wells Fargo in hot water. Hopefully it got resolved.

As for all this, Dish's stream service (Sling) is vastly superior to Direct TV Now. I'm not surprised it never took off.

I think the price increase that Now and Vue did turned away more subscribers. Sling is still the king because they have a base cheap package and then customers add other packages as they want.

I would like to find out some numbers for a Philo. ATT WatchTV has less than 500k subscribers per Forbes. (FYI these 2 products are non-sports offerings and news in regards to Philo.)

(09-22-2019 06:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Cable companies are having a tough time keeping customers, and have to pay for content. Fox wants more while the cable people can afford less and less. Customers don't want to pay for the programing they get anymore, and the industry doesn't yet know how to make that work. It will only get worse in the future.

If the result of the cable bubble bursting is OTA exploding .... it's a price worth paying. I remember growing up OTA could almost be counted on one hand: ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, PBS, PBS-Alt, WUNC. It's now 100 OTA channels in my area. There's more than a dozen PBS stations alone.

OTA is higher quality than cable and satellite broadcast. It's lower infrastructure cost to everybody involved. Upgrades are easy to make since infrastructure is highly concentrated. It just makes more sense. And it has since the beginning.

(09-22-2019 04:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 06:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Cable companies are having a tough time keeping customers, and have to pay for content. Fox wants more while the cable people can afford less and less. Customers don't want to pay for the programing they get anymore, and the industry doesn't yet know how to make that work. It will only get worse in the future.

If the result of the cable bubble bursting is OTA exploding .... it's a price worth paying. I remember growing up OTA could almost be counted on one hand: ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, PBS, PBS-Alt, WUNC. It's now 100 OTA channels in my area. There's more than a dozen PBS stations alone.

OTA is higher quality than cable and satellite broadcast. It's lower infrastructure cost to everybody involved. Upgrades are easy to make since infrastructure is highly concentrated. It just makes more sense. And it has since the beginning.

And when ATSC 3.0 starts rolling out sometime next year, the 4K broadcasts are going to be beautiful. Also with the Spectrum changes, it might allow for more HD sub-channels.