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(09-03-2019 10:44 AM)ClaudeFunston Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:49 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  With that being said CUSA needs to win against these weaker G5 programs such as SMU and Tulsa

Not trying to put a damper on things. But, this is going to be a very tough game this weekend.

SMU has added a LOT of grad transfers and this is not the same team as last year. The biggest difference is of course the QB Buechele. That guy is a former Longhorn starter and looked pretty damn good last week (after the initial pick).

This weeks game is going to be a barn burner with 2 very good QB's and not so great defenses. It would not be surprising if this was the highest scoring FBS game this week.

Yes, I know how Sonny recruits. No defense, no depth, just juco transfers, crash and burn after Sonny leaves.
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(09-03-2019 09:49 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:11 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 03:05 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In my opinion this week's game between North Texas and SMU has become bigger than just being two local programs meeting on the field. The AAC is moving their headquarters to Dallas after this season, and C-USA's leadership will need to step up their game (we all know MacLeod can't do that), or risk losing what little local support the conference has developed over the years.

Because of this impending change, and C-USA's lack of competent leadership, I think it is important that North Texas does not just settle for winning our share of these annual games against SMU, but UNT needs to dominate this series for as long as it continues. The current arrangement runs through 2025 (based on what has happened on the field and the numbers in the stands, I believe the series will be extended). In my opinion, this "Turf War" is not just between North Texas and SMU, but will now represents a battle between C-USA and the AAC. C-USA is not in a position to challenge the AAC for the top G5 spot, but maybe North Texas can be a thorn in the side of their leadership for as long as they call DFW home.

I think you may think that this game is bigger than it really is. I understand the local interest but outside the Dallas/Fort Worth area no one really has this game on their radar.

We feel our game against UCF is huge down here, but not sure how people feel about it outside of South Florida. I actually think the UCF-FAU game is the biggest AAC-CUSA matchup this week.

None the less, good luck hope you win and represent the conference well.

I agree SMU is an afterthought in DFW, they haven’t been relevant in decades. No one cares outside of UNT and SMU fans.

With that being said CUSA needs to win against these weaker G5 programs such as SMU and Tulsa


Both big games for CUSA fans.
I live in Denton county, and as a Rice fan this is the one non-Rice game that I’m considering going to (‘game-day decision’). We have played either (or sometimes both) of these teams every year since 1988. (In that span we’re 17-7 against the ponies and 4-5 vs UNT.)

UCF-FAU is a bigger deal, though, I agree. It has everything to do with UCF and what they’ve done lately, vs what SMU has done lately.
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The SMU that I watched vs Ark St will run and throw all over the UNT defense. UNT will be lucky to get the win and if they do it will be on the shoulders of Fine. SMU's pass defense looked almost as bad as UNT. The difference...Fine can and will take advantage
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smut owns the series with UNT, for sure. But you people do realize that most of the games were played when smu was in the Southwest Conference, and North Texas was basically a Div II/III program back in the day. Remember the conferences from long ago that UNT participated in? 1913 - 1921 no conference affiliation, Tx Intercollegiate Athletic Assoc.(1922-1931), Lone Star Conference(1932-1942), no team from 1943-45 due to WWII, Gulf Coast Conference(1949-1956), Missouri Valley Conference(1957-1974)? Didn't think so.

And for the record, I was not impressed at all with the North Texas defense. Regardless of how many points we scored early in the game, we let them get back in it, and that can't happen against smu or anyone in CUSA.
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(09-04-2019 03:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The SMU that I watched vs Ark St will run and throw all over the UNT defense. UNT will be lucky to get the win and if they do it will be on the shoulders of Fine. SMU's pass defense looked almost as bad as UNT. The difference...Fine can and will take advantage

And this coming from a WKU fan who's mighty team lost to an FCS Central Arkansas? You should be embarrassed!
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Yall should sig bet
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(09-03-2019 09:16 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
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(09-02-2019 03:58 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  So you guys need to do them what they’ve done to you for the last 100 years. A lot of ground to make up before throwing out the word dominate.

Well we started last season, or maybe you forgot about this....

[Image: MVIMG_20180901_205659.thumb.jpg.f0a9b986...7044ac.jpg]

Is it me or does the time of possession makes no sense with 24 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter?

Nice catch! Definitely looks like someone screwed up. lol
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(09-04-2019 04:40 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 03:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The SMU that I watched vs Ark St will run and throw all over the UNT defense. UNT will be lucky to get the win and if they do it will be on the shoulders of Fine. SMU's pass defense looked almost as bad as UNT. The difference...Fine can and will take advantage

And this coming from a WKU fan who's mighty team lost to an FCS Central Arkansas? You should be embarrassed!

Western losing has nothing to do with my comment and I noticed you didnt address them. SMU ran the ball late on Ark St very well. They also passed on Ark St all game. UNT gave up the corner on the run and Abilene Christian took advantage of it.

So once more tell me exactly how Western plays into this?
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(09-03-2019 09:16 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 07:53 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 03:58 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  So you guys need to do them what they’ve done to you for the last 100 years. A lot of ground to make up before throwing out the word dominate.

Well we started last season, or maybe you forgot about this....

[Image: MVIMG_20180901_205659.thumb.jpg.f0a9b986...7044ac.jpg]

Is it me or does the time of possession makes no sense with 24 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter?
Stats look to be about 4 minutes behind. Still dominant though.
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(09-02-2019 09:59 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Ouch. Just shut-up and beat them. That sad series records precludes you from talking smack for several years.

This isn't a smack thread. I never said we were dominating the series. I said we need to dominate the series, as in we need to start dominating it. We all know SMU has historically owned UNT. My OP is about the need to turn that around, and why I think it is important. A win Saturday would give North Texas a two game winning streak in the series, and a good start.
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(09-03-2019 09:11 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 03:05 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In my opinion this week's game between North Texas and SMU has become bigger than just being two local programs meeting on the field. The AAC is moving their headquarters to Dallas after this season, and C-USA's leadership will need to step up their game (we all know MacLeod can't do that), or risk losing what little local support the conference has developed over the years.

Because of this impending change, and C-USA's lack of competent leadership, I think it is important that North Texas does not just settle for winning our share of these annual games against SMU, but UNT needs to dominate this series for as long as it continues. The current arrangement runs through 2025 (based on what has happened on the field and the numbers in the stands, I believe the series will be extended). In my opinion, this "Turf War" is not just between North Texas and SMU, but will now represents a battle between C-USA and the AAC. C-USA is not in a position to challenge the AAC for the top G5 spot, but maybe North Texas can be a thorn in the side of their leadership for as long as they call DFW home.

I think you may think that this game is bigger than it really is. I understand the local interest but outside the Dallas/Fort Worth area no one really has this game on their radar.

We feel our game against UCF is huge down here, but not sure how people feel about it outside of South Florida. I actually think the UCF-FAU game is the biggest AAC-CUSA matchup this week.

None the less, good luck hope you win and represent the conference well.

I would agree, due to the fact that UCF is generally regarded as the best G5 program right now. But, I don't give FAU much of a chance in this game. So, since I think North Texas has a better chance of winning, and the game is for bragging right in the city both conferences will be calling home, the UNT/SMU game has greater significance to me.
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(09-05-2019 05:14 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:11 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 03:05 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In my opinion this week's game between North Texas and SMU has become bigger than just being two local programs meeting on the field. The AAC is moving their headquarters to Dallas after this season, and C-USA's leadership will need to step up their game (we all know MacLeod can't do that), or risk losing what little local support the conference has developed over the years.

Because of this impending change, and C-USA's lack of competent leadership, I think it is important that North Texas does not just settle for winning our share of these annual games against SMU, but UNT needs to dominate this series for as long as it continues. The current arrangement runs through 2025 (based on what has happened on the field and the numbers in the stands, I believe the series will be extended). In my opinion, this "Turf War" is not just between North Texas and SMU, but will now represents a battle between C-USA and the AAC. C-USA is not in a position to challenge the AAC for the top G5 spot, but maybe North Texas can be a thorn in the side of their leadership for as long as they call DFW home.

I think you may think that this game is bigger than it really is. I understand the local interest but outside the Dallas/Fort Worth area no one really has this game on their radar.

We feel our game against UCF is huge down here, but not sure how people feel about it outside of South Florida. I actually think the UCF-FAU game is the biggest AAC-CUSA matchup this week.

None the less, good luck hope you win and represent the conference well.

I would agree, due to the fact that UCF is generally regarded as the best G5 program right now. But, I don't give FAU much of a chance in this game. So, since I think North Texas has a better chance of winning, and the game is for bragging right in the city both conferences will be calling home, the UNT/SMU game has greater significance to me.

No one really cares where league offices are. Really has no affect on our daily lives. They can make bad decisions anywhere in the country!
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(09-05-2019 06:49 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-05-2019 05:14 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:11 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 03:05 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In my opinion this week's game between North Texas and SMU has become bigger than just being two local programs meeting on the field. The AAC is moving their headquarters to Dallas after this season, and C-USA's leadership will need to step up their game (we all know MacLeod can't do that), or risk losing what little local support the conference has developed over the years.

Because of this impending change, and C-USA's lack of competent leadership, I think it is important that North Texas does not just settle for winning our share of these annual games against SMU, but UNT needs to dominate this series for as long as it continues. The current arrangement runs through 2025 (based on what has happened on the field and the numbers in the stands, I believe the series will be extended). In my opinion, this "Turf War" is not just between North Texas and SMU, but will now represents a battle between C-USA and the AAC. C-USA is not in a position to challenge the AAC for the top G5 spot, but maybe North Texas can be a thorn in the side of their leadership for as long as they call DFW home.

I think you may think that this game is bigger than it really is. I understand the local interest but outside the Dallas/Fort Worth area no one really has this game on their radar.

We feel our game against UCF is huge down here, but not sure how people feel about it outside of South Florida. I actually think the UCF-FAU game is the biggest AAC-CUSA matchup this week.

None the less, good luck hope you win and represent the conference well.

I would agree, due to the fact that UCF is generally regarded as the best G5 program right now. But, I don't give FAU much of a chance in this game. So, since I think North Texas has a better chance of winning, and the game is for bragging right in the city both conferences will be calling home, the UNT/SMU game has greater significance to me.

No one really cares where league offices are. Really has no affect on our daily lives. They can make bad decisions anywhere in the country!


The Big XII is here too. I’ve thought about stopping by just to chat about the weather and leaves and stuff.
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(09-05-2019 07:00 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(09-05-2019 06:49 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-05-2019 05:14 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:11 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 03:05 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In my opinion this week's game between North Texas and SMU has become bigger than just being two local programs meeting on the field. The AAC is moving their headquarters to Dallas after this season, and C-USA's leadership will need to step up their game (we all know MacLeod can't do that), or risk losing what little local support the conference has developed over the years.

Because of this impending change, and C-USA's lack of competent leadership, I think it is important that North Texas does not just settle for winning our share of these annual games against SMU, but UNT needs to dominate this series for as long as it continues. The current arrangement runs through 2025 (based on what has happened on the field and the numbers in the stands, I believe the series will be extended). In my opinion, this "Turf War" is not just between North Texas and SMU, but will now represents a battle between C-USA and the AAC. C-USA is not in a position to challenge the AAC for the top G5 spot, but maybe North Texas can be a thorn in the side of their leadership for as long as they call DFW home.

I think you may think that this game is bigger than it really is. I understand the local interest but outside the Dallas/Fort Worth area no one really has this game on their radar.

We feel our game against UCF is huge down here, but not sure how people feel about it outside of South Florida. I actually think the UCF-FAU game is the biggest AAC-CUSA matchup this week.

None the less, good luck hope you win and represent the conference well.

I would agree, due to the fact that UCF is generally regarded as the best G5 program right now. But, I don't give FAU much of a chance in this game. So, since I think North Texas has a better chance of winning, and the game is for bragging right in the city both conferences will be calling home, the UNT/SMU game has greater significance to me.

No one really cares where league offices are. Really has no affect on our daily lives. They can make bad decisions anywhere in the country!


The Big XII is here too. I’ve thought about stopping by just to chat about the weather and leaves and stuff.

I didn't know they would do that...I recant everything I stated. It's almost like Starbuck or Cheers.
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(09-04-2019 05:42 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Yall should sig bet

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Ugh. Guess you got to crawl before you can walk.
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(09-03-2019 09:49 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(09-03-2019 09:11 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 03:05 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  In my opinion this week's game between North Texas and SMU has become bigger than just being two local programs meeting on the field. The AAC is moving their headquarters to Dallas after this season, and C-USA's leadership will need to step up their game (we all know MacLeod can't do that), or risk losing what little local support the conference has developed over the years.

Because of this impending change, and C-USA's lack of competent leadership, I think it is important that North Texas does not just settle for winning our share of these annual games against SMU, but UNT needs to dominate this series for as long as it continues. The current arrangement runs through 2025 (based on what has happened on the field and the numbers in the stands, I believe the series will be extended). In my opinion, this "Turf War" is not just between North Texas and SMU, but will now represents a battle between C-USA and the AAC. C-USA is not in a position to challenge the AAC for the top G5 spot, but maybe North Texas can be a thorn in the side of their leadership for as long as they call DFW home.

I think you may think that this game is bigger than it really is. I understand the local interest but outside the Dallas/Fort Worth area no one really has this game on their radar.

We feel our game against UCF is huge down here, but not sure how people feel about it outside of South Florida. I actually think the UCF-FAU game is the biggest AAC-CUSA matchup this week.

None the less, good luck hope you win and represent the conference well.

I agree SMU is an afterthought in DFW, they haven’t been relevant in decades. No one cares outside of UNT and SMU fans.

With that being said CUSA needs to win against these weaker G5 programs such as SMU and Tulsa

Agreed - SMU hasn’t mattered since the Trans-am was popular. Don’t see many of those ponies around these days.
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(09-03-2019 09:16 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
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(09-02-2019 03:58 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  So you guys need to do them what they’ve done to you for the last 100 years. A lot of ground to make up before throwing out the word dominate.

Well we started last season, or maybe you forgot about this....

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Is it me or does the time of possession makes no sense with 24 seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter?

The drive in progress is not taken into consideration.
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Wow - they have Dallas on the front of their jersey and is that a “D” on their helmet? Bold move to stake a claim on such a coveted city. But that is one empty stadium if you remove the NTX fans.
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(09-04-2019 04:40 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  
(09-04-2019 03:17 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The SMU that I watched vs Ark St will run and throw all over the UNT defense. UNT will be lucky to get the win and if they do it will be on the shoulders of Fine. SMU's pass defense looked almost as bad as UNT. The difference...Fine can and will take advantage

And this coming from a WKU fan who's mighty team lost to an FCS Central Arkansas? You should be embarrassed!

What was you saying? Now lets hope Fine can do as I said or a long night for UNT
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