(10-20-2019 05:52 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:49 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:38 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:18 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 03:18 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Remember 2 years ago when the AAC and UCF were telling us all that SOS doesn’t actually matter if you’re undefeated and that UCF should be in the college playoff and that UCF are the “National Champions”.

Strange how suddenly that no longer applies. Very strange...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing their schedule was a helluva lot better than yours. Also, the season ain't over yet. You didn't finish undefeated yet.

UCF SOS was 72 after playing Auburn in NY6, it was 100+ before. P5 game got canceled (hurricane). Of course playing in G5 conference did UCF no favors.

Several Sunbelt teams had higher SOS that year

It matters and no one is going to be able to produce a cute enough schedule to beat out anyone in the AAC for the NY6.

If SMU loses a game and App beats South Carolina they most certainly will play in the NY6.

Appalachian State won't beat South Carolina, but lets say they did and went undefeated they still wont get the NY6 game regardless if SMU losses one more.

12-1 AAC Champion
SMU - wins over (#25 TCU, #? Memphis, & #? East Opponent)
Memphis - wins over (#? SMU, #? Cincinnati & #? East Opponent)
Cincinnati - wins over (#18 UCF, #? Memphis & #? West Opponent)

SOS is very important but its not the only factor. The American has much more respect than the SBC. SMU is two teams behind App State in strength of their schedule, its far too close.

One of those three teams will be in the Cotton Bowl this year, period.

(10-20-2019 06:08 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:52 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:49 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:38 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:18 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing their schedule was a helluva lot better than yours. Also, the season ain't over yet. You didn't finish undefeated yet.

UCF SOS was 72 after playing Auburn in NY6, it was 100+ before. P5 game got canceled (hurricane). Of course playing in G5 conference did UCF no favors.

Several Sunbelt teams had higher SOS that year

It matters and no one is going to be able to produce a cute enough schedule to beat out anyone in the AAC for the NY6.

If SMU loses a game and App beats South Carolina they most certainly will play in the NY6.

Appalachian State won't beat South Carolina, but lets say they did and went undefeated they still wont get the NY6 game regardless if SMU losses one more.

12-1 AAC Champion
SMU - wins over (#25 TCU, #? Memphis, & #? East Opponent)
Memphis - wins over (#? SMU, #? Cincinnati & #? East Opponent)
Cincinnati - wins over (#18 UCF, #? Memphis & #? West Opponent)

One of those three teams will be in the Cotton Bowl this year, period.

I guess we'll see. One thing for sure though it won't be Memphis.

(10-20-2019 06:12 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 06:08 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:52 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:49 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 05:38 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  UCF SOS was 72 after playing Auburn in NY6, it was 100+ before. P5 game got canceled (hurricane). Of course playing in G5 conference did UCF no favors.

Several Sunbelt teams had higher SOS that year

It matters and no one is going to be able to produce a cute enough schedule to beat out anyone in the AAC for the NY6.

If SMU loses a game and App beats South Carolina they most certainly will play in the NY6.

Appalachian State won't beat South Carolina, but lets say they did and went undefeated they still wont get the NY6 game regardless if SMU losses one more.

12-1 AAC Champion
SMU - wins over (#25 TCU, #? Memphis, & #? East Opponent)
Memphis - wins over (#? SMU, #? Cincinnati & #? East Opponent)
Cincinnati - wins over (#18 UCF, #? Memphis & #? West Opponent)

One of those three teams will be in the Cotton Bowl this year, period.

I guess we'll see. One thing for sure though it won't be Memphis.

Notre Dame vs 13-0 SMU would sellout ATT Stadium and be a dream come true for ESPN.

The AAC is super deep this season. It will be tough for anyone to go undefeated. One of our worst teams can beat BYU. That is the big gap.

Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If App State goes undefeated and someone from the AAC ends up with 1 loss, you probably go to the ny6. That said it is a bit difficult to pick and choose like you tried to pick out. The AAC is something ridiculous like 15-1 against the g4. Our crappy teams beat BYU if you want to pick out games. It's a long season though. Wouldn't shock me to see the AAC beat up on each other to finish the season. Who knows...you have to win out to find out.

(10-20-2019 07:45 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If App State goes undefeated and someone from the AAC ends up with 1 loss, you probably go to the ny6. That said it is a bit difficult to pick and choose like you tried to pick out. The AAC is something ridiculous like 15-1 against the g4. Our crappy teams beat BYU if you want to pick out games. It's a long season though. Wouldn't shock me to see the AAC beat up on each other to finish the season. Who knows...you have to win out to find out.

It’s very difficult to pick and choose, I agree. I’ll concede 100x over, if SMU runs the table and so does App, SMU deserves the bid over us. The AAC is a better conference top to bottom than the Sunbelt/MAC/CUSA and it’s really not debatable.

That said, if I had a magic wand, I’d be willing to put App up against any G5 team and feel like we at LEAST have a 50/50 shot of winning. And I suspect I’m preaching to the choir talking to a UCF fan about that.

All in all, App must be doing something right if we are starting to catch heat from fanbases that have ignored us for the past 100 years.

(10-20-2019 07:58 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:45 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If App State goes undefeated and someone from the AAC ends up with 1 loss, you probably go to the ny6. That said it is a bit difficult to pick and choose like you tried to pick out. The AAC is something ridiculous like 15-1 against the g4. Our crappy teams beat BYU if you want to pick out games. It's a long season though. Wouldn't shock me to see the AAC beat up on each other to finish the season. Who knows...you have to win out to find out.

It’s very difficult to pick and choose, I agree. I’ll concede 100x over, if SMU runs the table and so does App, SMU deserves the bid over us. The AAC is a better conference top to bottom than the Sunbelt/MAC/CUSA and it’s really not debatable.

That said, if I had a magic wand, I’d be willing to put App up against any G5 team and feel like we at LEAST have a 50/50 shot of winning. And I suspect I’m preaching to the choir talking to a UCF fan about that.

All in all, App must be doing something right if we are starting to catch heat from fanbases that have ignored us for the past 100 years.

App State is legit this year. The South Carolina test will be a good one and a game that can be won. I don't see anything else as a possible block. I never thought Boise was that great this year. They got a ton a credit for beating FSU which a lot of teams can do. SMU is legit too. My guess is the NY6 will be either App State or SMU.

(10-20-2019 08:50 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:58 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:45 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If App State goes undefeated and someone from the AAC ends up with 1 loss, you probably go to the ny6. That said it is a bit difficult to pick and choose like you tried to pick out. The AAC is something ridiculous like 15-1 against the g4. Our crappy teams beat BYU if you want to pick out games. It's a long season though. Wouldn't shock me to see the AAC beat up on each other to finish the season. Who knows...you have to win out to find out.

It’s very difficult to pick and choose, I agree. I’ll concede 100x over, if SMU runs the table and so does App, SMU deserves the bid over us. The AAC is a better conference top to bottom than the Sunbelt/MAC/CUSA and it’s really not debatable.

That said, if I had a magic wand, I’d be willing to put App up against any G5 team and feel like we at LEAST have a 50/50 shot of winning. And I suspect I’m preaching to the choir talking to a UCF fan about that.

All in all, App must be doing something right if we are starting to catch heat from fanbases that have ignored us for the past 100 years.

App State is legit this year. The South Carolina test will be a good one and a game that can be won. I don't see anything else as a possible block. I never thought Boise was that great this year. They got a ton a credit for beating FSU which a lot of teams can do. SMU is legit too. My guess is the NY6 will be either App State or SMU.

I’m glad we get to play them when we do because I think it’ll be make or break for us (assuming Ga Southern doesn’t snipe us which is possible given our history).

IF we are still undefeated when we get to South Carolina and beat them too, well then as far as I can tell we are legit.

If we lose, well, we deserve our fate.

SMU is having a great season. I’m happy for the ponies. I’m sure they’ve got some dedicated fans that have waited mighty long for this.

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Because the committee is a group of experts who understand that a game vs a championship contender that is also a rival at home isn't something you need to critically judge to assume Cincinnati can't compete with others.

Quote:Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.
AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If Memphis won out we would have 3 ranked wins including a Championship in a conference that is far better than the SBC. Appy would have a bad 0 ranked win resume.. It might surprise some but the committee has never been put in a 12-1 vs 13-0 situation and I would bet a lot that they would favor the AAC Champion with 3 ranked wins and a much better resume.

Cincinnati is ranked above you with 1 ranked win and 1 loss.
Boise State is right behind you with 0 ranked wins and 1 loss.
Imagine a 3 ranked win Memphis/Cincinnati/SMU with 1 loss.


Western Michigan was the clear favorite because of the lack of other competitive records in the G5 regardless of their baby schedule, and our conference wasn't even around when NIU went to the NY6. There has only been 2 years the AAC didn't capture the bid in our 6 years of existence and we're more competitive than ever. You're going to be watching one of us from your couch is the harsh reality.

(10-20-2019 09:19 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Because the committee is a group of experts who understand that a game vs a championship contender that is also a rival at home isn't something you need to critically judge to assume Cincinnati can't compete with others.

Quote:Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.
AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If Memphis won out we would have 3 ranked wins including a Championship in a conference that is far better than the SBC. Appy would have a bad 0 ranked win resume.. It might surprise some but the committee has never been put in a 12-1 vs 13-0 situation and I would bet a lot that they would favor the AAC Champion with 3 ranked wins and a much better resume.

Cincinnati is ranked above you with 1 ranked win and 1 loss.
Boise State is right behind you with 0 ranked wins and 1 loss.
Imagine a 3 ranked win Memphis/Cincinnati/SMU with 1 loss.


Western Michigan was the clear favorite because of the lack of other competitive records in the G5 regardless of their baby schedule, and our conference wasn't even around when NIU went to the NY6. There has only been 2 years the AAC didn't capture the bid in our 6 years of existence and we're more competitive than ever. You're going to be watching one of us from your couch is the harsh reality.

I disagree. But I guess we will all get to find out. Or one of us will lose and the point is moot.

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If you're going to **** on us to prove a terrible point, I'll play:

App State's opponents have lost to:

VMI, Furman, Wofford, UTC
FAU, FIU, WKU
VT (stinks)
EMU, GA Southern
Miss State (stinks)
FSU (stinks), Memphis(!)

Not exactly a murderer's row there.

(10-20-2019 11:58 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If you're going to **** on us to prove a terrible point, I'll play:

App State's opponents have lost to:

VMI, Furman, Wofford, UTC
FAU, FIU, WKU
VT (stinks)
EMU, GA Southern
Miss State (stinks)
FSU (stinks), Memphis(!)

Not exactly a murderer's row there.

+2

Temple is a great football program who dropped a bad game, happens all the time.
I'm not sick to my stomach thinking about losing to a team who has beat 6 top 25 teams in the last 5 years. It's a good loss.

The only poll that matters is the CFP. We’ll all just have to wait to see how it shakes out, but yes they have ranked teams with worse records ahead of teams with better ones...BSU over Marshall comes to mind. Also, both BSU (one loss) and Houston (2 loss) were ranked higher than an undefeated WMU at one point in the poll (jumped them). Navy was also closing in on them with two losses prompting the committee to decide to delay the decision until after the Army/Navy game in the event the midshipmen won the AAC. The committee really didn’t like USF’s sos in 2017 and kept them out all year even though the human polls had them in. So, yeah, wait and see I guess is the point of the blabbering. I’m really rather curious to see if the addition of the Ark. St. AD influences G5 talking points...always good to have representation.

Assuming Memphis and SMU both take care of business this week, the Memphis/SMU game the following week (November 2nd) in the Liberty Bowl will be huge in regards to AAC standings, national rankings and a possible view into who'll play in the Cotton Bowl. App State, great team and also deserving will need to take care of business and upset South Carolina. Fun times, we should all enjoy and let the chips fall where they may.

(10-19-2019 02:18 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 01:27 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 06:19 AM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(10-15-2019 11:40 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  They havent

in 2004, UAB started the season 5-1 and was ranked #24 for a week.

I stand corrected. I only looked at the AP and Coaches. UAB has been ranked 1 time for 1 week by one poll in the entirety of existence. Stunning.

Stunning is that you were wrong.....or maybe not. Tell you wut, you and carana falls worry about how the Coogs are tanking games and wut not and we'll worry about the amount of times UAB has been ranked in football.

The idea of fans of a school only worrying about their school is cute but this entire thread rails against that. If you dont like getting punched down on then dont punch up.

Boy please, stfu and keep it moving. If I worried about every smartazz poster who spouted misinformation on a continual basis I would be dead.

(10-21-2019 10:03 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 02:18 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 01:27 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 06:19 AM)Cardiff Wrote:  in 2004, UAB started the season 5-1 and was ranked #24 for a week.

I stand corrected. I only looked at the AP and Coaches. UAB has been ranked 1 time for 1 week by one poll in the entirety of existence. Stunning.

Stunning is that you were wrong.....or maybe not. Tell you wut, you and carana falls worry about how the Coogs are tanking games and wut not and we'll worry about the amount of times UAB has been ranked in football.

The idea of fans of a school only worrying about their school is cute but this entire thread rails against that. If you dont like getting punched down on then dont punch up.

Boy please, stfu and keep it moving. If I worried about every smartazz poster who spouted misinformation on a continual basis I would be dead.

Good one!

(10-21-2019 10:03 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 02:18 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 01:27 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 06:19 AM)Cardiff Wrote:  in 2004, UAB started the season 5-1 and was ranked #24 for a week.

I stand corrected. I only looked at the AP and Coaches. UAB has been ranked 1 time for 1 week by one poll in the entirety of existence. Stunning.

Stunning is that you were wrong.....or maybe not. Tell you wut, you and carana falls worry about how the Coogs are tanking games and wut not and we'll worry about the amount of times UAB has been ranked in football.

The idea of fans of a school only worrying about their school is cute but this entire thread rails against that. If you dont like getting punched down on then dont punch up.

Boy please, stfu and keep it moving. If I worried about every smartazz poster who spouted misinformation on a continual basis I would be dead.

What does any of that even mean?

(10-20-2019 11:58 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 07:25 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  Cincinnati already showed us how they would do against a P5 power when they got BLANKED and bodied 42-0 by Ohio State. Why would the committee ever consider them unless they just want to send cannon fodder to get embarrassed again.

Memphis lost to Temple, who has an L against MIGHTY BUFFALO.

AAC fans in here acting like they are playing an SEC schedule have me laughing. If App goes undefeated and the AAC teams have one loss, ya’ll can watch us from your couch. Just like you did for Western Michigan and Northern Illinois.

If we lose a game this season, then it’s not meant to be. And I’ll be okay with that. Memphis fans crying about SOS after losing is just sad man.

If you're going to **** on us to prove a terrible point, I'll play:

App State's opponents have lost to:

VMI, Furman, Wofford, UTC
FAU, FIU, WKU
VT (stinks)
EMU, GA Southern
Miss State (stinks)
FSU (stinks), Memphis(!)

Not exactly a murderer's row there.

Very true. But we haven’t lost to any of them!

(10-21-2019 01:42 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-21-2019 10:03 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 02:18 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 01:27 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:10 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  I stand corrected. I only looked at the AP and Coaches. UAB has been ranked 1 time for 1 week by one poll in the entirety of existence. Stunning.

Stunning is that you were wrong.....or maybe not. Tell you wut, you and carana falls worry about how the Coogs are tanking games and wut not and we'll worry about the amount of times UAB has been ranked in football.

The idea of fans of a school only worrying about their school is cute but this entire thread rails against that. If you dont like getting punched down on then dont punch up.

Boy please, stfu and keep it moving. If I worried about every smartazz poster who spouted misinformation on a continual basis I would be dead.

What does any of that even mean?