(09-24-2019 06:11 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 05:15 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 09:22 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 01:12 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Add Muschamp to the list

The Gamecocks will finish 2-10 or 3-9, which seems likely as Florida, A&M, Georgia and Clemson are certain losses and App State, who beat UNC who beat the Cocks, Tennessee, Kentucky and Vanderbilt are all at best pick em games. Still, nothing will happen since, unfathomably, Muschamp gets $22m if he is fired before December 31, and the buyout only goes down to $18.6m after 1/1/2020. It is depressing, but there is simply no financially viable way to both get rid of Muschamp this year and put together enough money to entice an attractive replacement candidate, not that I think anyone would be lining up to take this job based on the ascendance of UGA, Clemson etc. Unless Muschamp completely blows a gasket and does something so bonkers that he can be fired for cause (not entirely out of the question), the only real way to begin digging out of this cluster is for the new school President Caslen to fire AD Ray Tanner, who is responsible for this indefensible buyout, and then have a new AD brought in who can evaluate the program closely in 2020 and be ready to fire Muschamp if and when anyone who is worth a damn would be willing to take the job. It’s going to get much, much worse in Columbia before it gets any better. The Cocks need to reverse course and start selling beer and wine at the games and devote those proceeds, suspend any non-football capital investments and reallocate their share of the SEC Network cash to the buyout ASAP.

We are in the final stages of approving a $20 million dollar tennis complex, so it sounds like there’s your buyout money right there

The fanbase has turned on WM pretty hard so unless they pull some unforeseen upsets he’s out of here this year IMO

Which SEC school does he go to next? He's been at 5 already: Georgia (as a player), LSU, Auburn (as an assistant), Florida, South Carolina (as head coach).

Muschamp in the SEC is like Matt Millen all those years at the Detroit Lions: The only logical explanation for his persistence is that he has serious dirt on someone very important.

(09-24-2019 03:08 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Scott Frost of Nebraska would be on the hot seat if the team continues losing. Scott should have stick with UCF. At least he knows he would win there.

Do you ever think before you post? Or just blurt out your delusional thoughts?

(09-24-2019 06:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 06:11 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 05:15 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 09:22 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 01:12 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Add Muschamp to the list

The Gamecocks will finish 2-10 or 3-9, which seems likely as Florida, A&M, Georgia and Clemson are certain losses and App State, who beat UNC who beat the Cocks, Tennessee, Kentucky and Vanderbilt are all at best pick em games. Still, nothing will happen since, unfathomably, Muschamp gets $22m if he is fired before December 31, and the buyout only goes down to $18.6m after 1/1/2020. It is depressing, but there is simply no financially viable way to both get rid of Muschamp this year and put together enough money to entice an attractive replacement candidate, not that I think anyone would be lining up to take this job based on the ascendance of UGA, Clemson etc. Unless Muschamp completely blows a gasket and does something so bonkers that he can be fired for cause (not entirely out of the question), the only real way to begin digging out of this cluster is for the new school President Caslen to fire AD Ray Tanner, who is responsible for this indefensible buyout, and then have a new AD brought in who can evaluate the program closely in 2020 and be ready to fire Muschamp if and when anyone who is worth a damn would be willing to take the job. It’s going to get much, much worse in Columbia before it gets any better. The Cocks need to reverse course and start selling beer and wine at the games and devote those proceeds, suspend any non-football capital investments and reallocate their share of the SEC Network cash to the buyout ASAP.

We are in the final stages of approving a $20 million dollar tennis complex, so it sounds like there’s your buyout money right there

The fanbase has turned on WM pretty hard so unless they pull some unforeseen upsets he’s out of here this year IMO

Which SEC school does he go to next? He's been at 5 already: Georgia (as a player), LSU, Auburn (as an assistant), Florida, South Carolina (as head coach).

Muschamp in the SEC is like Matt Millen all those years at the Detroit Lions: The only logical explanation for his persistence is that he has serious dirt on someone very important.

I’d say he goes back to the roost to hang out with Saban at Alabama. Probably parlays that into a G5 gig somewhere

(09-23-2019 09:24 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  U of Michigan's, if they really are a National Championship or bust program, but I think he sticks around another year if they hit 10 wins again without winning the Big 10.

For someone with Harbaugh's ego and attitude, when you have odds out there now about his return, and ESPN running wild on kicking him and his program, then pushing the Meyer appearance on a Columbus radio show talking about him taking over the UM job, the chance of departure this season, 100 percent.

He got more money, so he can't leverage these attacks to force more commitment, especially when the performance isn't there. Only UM leadership and him know what slack he has. One would assume his performance thus far isn't worthy of removal speak, but how high is the bar, really?

Honestly, even though I'm not a fan of his, and don't know who can really harness his ego, he's wanted elsewhere. The pro's would have him back. And honestly, UM is a pretty brutal place. Lloyd Carr deserved so much better than when he was there.

(09-24-2019 08:09 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 06:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 06:11 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Which SEC school does he go to next? He's been at 5 already: Georgia (as a player), LSU, Auburn (as an assistant), Florida, South Carolina (as head coach).

Muschamp in the SEC is like Matt Millen all those years at the Detroit Lions: The only logical explanation for his persistence is that he has serious dirt on someone very important.

I’d say he goes back to the roost to hang out with Saban at Alabama. Probably parlays that into a G5 gig somewhere

That's what I was thinking, since he has a history with Saban at LSU. That would make 6 SEC schools for him.

(09-26-2019 08:05 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 09:24 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  U of Michigan's, if they really are a National Championship or bust program, but I think he sticks around another year if they hit 10 wins again without winning the Big 10.

For someone with Harbaugh's ego and attitude, when you have odds out there now about his return, and ESPN running wild on kicking him and his program, then pushing the Meyer appearance on a Columbus radio show talking about him taking over the UM job, the chance of departure this season, 100 percent.

He got more money, so he can't leverage these attacks to force more commitment, especially when the performance isn't there. Only UM leadership and him know what slack he has. One would assume his performance thus far isn't worthy of removal speak, but how high is the bar, really?

Honestly, even though I'm not a fan of his, and don't know who can really harness his ego, he's wanted elsewhere. The pro's would have him back. And honestly, UM is a pretty brutal place. Lloyd Carr deserved so much better than when he was there.

If Ohio State makes Michigan their female dog again this season, I think Harbaugh is done. He's been lights out against the Rutgers' and Indiana's of the world, but has been pedestrian and at times bad against Top 25 opponents.

(09-27-2019 08:19 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-26-2019 08:05 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 09:24 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  U of Michigan's, if they really are a National Championship or bust program, but I think he sticks around another year if they hit 10 wins again without winning the Big 10.

For someone with Harbaugh's ego and attitude, when you have odds out there now about his return, and ESPN running wild on kicking him and his program, then pushing the Meyer appearance on a Columbus radio show talking about him taking over the UM job, the chance of departure this season, 100 percent.

He got more money, so he can't leverage these attacks to force more commitment, especially when the performance isn't there. Only UM leadership and him know what slack he has. One would assume his performance thus far isn't worthy of removal speak, but how high is the bar, really?

Honestly, even though I'm not a fan of his, and don't know who can really harness his ego, he's wanted elsewhere. The pro's would have him back. And honestly, UM is a pretty brutal place. Lloyd Carr deserved so much better than when he was there.

If Ohio State makes Michigan their female dog again this season, I think Harbaugh is done. He's been lights out against the Rutgers' and Indiana's of the world, but has been pedestrian and at times bad against Top 25 opponents.

Speaking as a Rutgers fan, I'd love to have a coach that looked that pedestrian.

Dook 45
Hokies 10
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(08-27-2019 05:19 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote:  

(08-26-2019 11:41 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Which coaches have to meet or exceed expectations in order to survive?


Some of my picks:


Clay Helton, USC - too much talent not to be a title contender
Lovie Smith, Illinois - needs to make a bowl
Chad Morris, Arkansas - PigFans are getting restless
Kalani Sitake, BYU - being #3 in the state of Utah doesn't sit well
Chris Ash, Rutgers - like Lovie, needs to make a bowl

We had a little discussion about Lovie over on the B1G board. https://csnbbs.com/thread-880500.html. AD has given vote of confidence but it's really difficult to see Lovie (or Ash for that matter) getting to 6 wins. Most plausible way for Illinois to make it is to got 3-0 in con-conference (Akron, UConn, E. Michigan), beat Rutgers and then steal one from somebody to get to 5 so they can *MAYBE* get to a bowl via APR. Yes Lovie has had a huge rebuilding job but he has gotten them back to not completely and utterly terrible (like Purdue pre Brohm). He's not the person to get them any further.

As for Ash, he's got UMass, BC & Liberty in the non-com. At Iowa, host Minnesota, at Illinois for their west cross overs and then everyone in the east. While they probably don't go winless, that is more likely than them getting to a bowl game. Question is, do they have the cash to buy out Ash?

Not with the extension they gave him and the money they are paying out for their past mistakes. Rutgers isn't getting their full cut of B-10 money yet so the cash isn't there. Ash won't be bowling again this year after last weeks loss to BC. At 1 and 2 with the only potential wins over Maryland who just got whipped again by Penn St, Illinois, Indiana, and Liberty, bowling is out and Rutgers might end up with only 3 wins tops this year. Unfortunately Rutgers will have to suffer through at least one more year of the Ash era before the school can afford to buy him and his staff out. Rutgers football still looks bleak going forward as Ash is not the answer. Rutgers picked the wrong plum from the Urban Meyer Ohio St coaching tree.

So, Chip loses a home game to Oregon St. 31-48. That win over a then ranked Washington St is long gone. Chipper is now 1-5 [1-2] on the year and owns the worst record in the P12. He's 4-14 overall at UCLA since taking the job last year. His seat is so hot he can't even sit down with a flame retardant suit. I feel for ya Bruins Nation, you deserve better.

(10-06-2019 11:50 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  So, Chip loses a home game to Oregon St. 31-48. That win over a then ranked Washington St is long gone. Chipper is now 1-5 [1-2] on the year and owns the worst record in the P12. He's 4-14 overall at UCLA since taking the job last year. His seat is so hot he can't even sit down with a flame retardant suit. I feel for ya Bruins Nation, you deserve better.

Oregon State's offense scored 7 TDs against UCLA and did it without benefit of any turnovers (UCLA didn't commit any turnovers in the game).

UCLA's defensive coordinator was a great D-line coach for a very long time, but it's not working out for him as a coordinator. And he's been with Chip for a long time so it's hard to see Chip letting him go.

UCLA’s Wazzu comeback was epic. It singlehandedly buys him another year, IMO, because one of the youngest teams in the country demonstrated they have some Chip Kelly Oregon in them, which ultimately is why UCLA hired him.

UCLA's comeback against Washington State included a UCLA punt return for a TD and Wazzu losing four fumbles. In 19 minutes of game time. That's not a UCLA offensive explosion, it's just picking up a winning lottery ticket. It shouldn't buy anyone anything.

What matters is (a) if Chip wants to continue or is ready to walk away, and (b) if Wasserman and UCLA's other "whale" boosters, who pushed for Chip to be hired, have changed their minds and are ready to ante up the millions to buy him out. Also, UCLA just pushed its AD into "retirement", so any decision will probably wait until the new AD has been hired.

Either Illinois or Rutgers needs to hire Jeff Monken. Guy has rebuilt two programs including one that is a notoriously difficult place to win, and he's got Army performing arguably better than they have in past 30+ years even while Navy and Air Force are both solid.

We've repeatedly seen B1G teams struggle when facing the academies, so taking one of these programs and becoming the Georgia Tech of the B1G that presents a weekly matchup difficulty is what these programs should go for. They're never going to compete doing the same thing as the big programs. Time to do something different.

(10-06-2019 01:14 PM)Wedge Wrote:  What matters is (a) if Chip wants to continue or is ready to walk away, and (b) if Wasserman and UCLA's other "whale" boosters, who pushed for Chip to be hired, have changed their minds and are ready to ante up the millions to buy him out. Also, UCLA just pushed its AD into "retirement", so any decision will probably wait until the new AD has been hired.

Good points. IMO, the answer to (a) is Chip will want another year to coach there. The answer to (b) is, I agree, the leadership will focus on a new AD and will likely want his/her input on the coaching situation once the season is over. It also gives them the option to fall back on the AD hiring his own guy. That said, I still think Chipper is gone regardless. With the remaining schedule, he'll be lucky to win one more game. That would result in a 2-10 record and 5-19 overall.

(10-06-2019 11:50 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  So, Chip loses a home game to Oregon St. 31-48. That win over a then ranked Washington St is long gone. Chipper is now 1-5 [1-2] on the year and owns the worst record in the P12. He's 4-14 overall at UCLA since taking the job last year. His seat is so hot he can't even sit down with a flame retardant suit. I feel for ya Bruins Nation, you deserve better.

I had the misfortune of attending the game at the Rose Bowl last night. Oregon State led 21-0 with 8:59 left in the first quarter. It took them six minutes to score three touchdowns. UCLA has a horrible defense, currently ranked #124 in FBS football out of 130 teams.

The numbers don't even tell the real story. Guys are running wide open in the secondary and the defense just misses too many tackles. The defensive coordinator, Jerry Azzinaro, who looks like a Mall Santa Claus, has to go. Kelly keeps defending him, but it is obvious that something is not working. It wasn't working last season, either. Kelly keeps talking about how young the team is, but that just sounds like an excuse for their ridiculously bad performances.

Florida should be thankful that they didn't make the mistake of hiring Kelly.

All of this depends on the number of coaches valued enough to make the change. I do not see that many publicly seen to have many firings this year.

I still think Chip deserves a third year.

Not college football related but Jay Gruden got scalped at the Redskin complex this morning. Imagine getting fired this morning in Washington and showing up as a consultant in Oakland this this afternoon with his brother John and the Raiders. Talk about double dipping with his Redskin buyout.

(10-06-2019 04:44 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 01:14 PM)Wedge Wrote:  What matters is (a) if Chip wants to continue or is ready to walk away, and (b) if Wasserman and UCLA's other "whale" boosters, who pushed for Chip to be hired, have changed their minds and are ready to ante up the millions to buy him out. Also, UCLA just pushed its AD into "retirement", so any decision will probably wait until the new AD has been hired.

Good points. IMO, the answer to (a) is Chip will want another year to coach there. The answer to (b) is, I agree, the leadership will focus on a new AD and will likely want his/her input on the coaching situation once the season is over. It also gives them the option to fall back on the AD hiring his own guy. That said, I still think Chipper is gone regardless. With the remaining schedule, he'll be lucky to win one more game. That would result in a 2-10 record and 5-19 overall.

If they hire a new "name" AD, chances are that he/she will undoubtedly want to hire someone they like. At this rate, a new AD will not be named until after the football season, so even if UCLA wanted to make a change, they will be behind all of the other schools making changes this offseason cycle.

Kelly will undoubtedly get one more year, which will allow the new administration to conduct a proper search and talk to the right people.

Much like USC, UCLA does not need a "name" - it needs an efficient program builder that can recruit.