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RE: "Donors Support Eastern Student-Athletes With Record Numbers"
(08-19-2019 04:51 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 07:07 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear ljmhurons,
How do you come to the conclusion that Eastern is a bottom dweller?

Well, what do we have? We had half a conference championship in men's golf, then was bypassed by the NCAA.

I think that's our only MAC championship last season men or women.


We play in arguably the worst football conference in fbs.

Really, what do we have left that shines or separates us? Pretty much nothing. Sue Parks is still doing well with CC and t&f. M golf did okay. Akron has supplanted our m t&f team as the best in a tiny conference. M cc took a terrible drop off.

W swim lost their outstanding coach. I suspect that their successful diving coach will follow as the fallout from cutting sports continues.

While football has improved, we're still struggling to be an average team in a very weak conference.

And we have tremendous alumni and community disinterest.

EMU has several great athletics programs that has produced hall of famers (ICEMAN), Olympians, and champions (granted the fb team doesnt exactly have a decorated past).

I'm not sure the MAC is the worst conference in FBS and i know you don't have any arguments to back up the statement it is.

Plenty of MAC teams are dropping sports - before we cut ours we had the most varsity programs in the mac.

as for the community and alumni disinterest. you've posted hundreds of times on an EXTREMELY web 1.0 message board ABOUT EMU. we all have. clearly you must be getting something out of it.
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RE: "Donors Support Eastern Student-Athletes With Record Numbers"
Take a look at the MAC bowl record. It’s atrocious. Easily the worst in fbs. The Sun Belt has dominated us. The Sun Belt.

Our great achievements as an athletic department have disproportionately been in the non revenue sports. But we have almost nothing left to point to as exceptional presently.

The idea that other schools cut sports so we should too is a loser mentality. They failed so we should too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/con...bowls.html
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"Donors Support Eastern Student-Athletes With Record Numbers"
(08-21-2019 01:27 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Take a look at the MAC bowl record. It’s atrocious. Easily the worst in fbs. The Sun Belt has dominated us. The Sun Belt.

Our great achievements as an athletic department have disproportionately been in the non revenue sports. But we have almost nothing left to point to as exceptional presently.

The idea that other schools cut sports so we should too is a loser mentality. They failed so we should too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/con...bowls.html


Conferences are not graded solely on their bowl records. Biggest thing for conferences is do they have a TV deal and how many players do they send to the NFL. We are doing great in both regards.


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LJM is probably from the same group of people that discredit our trips to bowl games the past few years because in their mind it’s frivolous spending...

But then turns around and cites the importance of bowl game records when measuring a conferences worth.
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(08-21-2019 01:27 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Take a look at the MAC bowl record. It’s atrocious. Easily the worst in fbs. The Sun Belt has dominated us. The Sun Belt.

Our great achievements as an athletic department have disproportionately been in the non revenue sports. But we have almost nothing left to point to as exceptional presently.

The idea that other schools cut sports so we should too is a loser mentality. They failed so we should too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/con...bowls.html

I'll try to reply to your post, honestly and constructively.

When a school, governmental unit (e.g., city), company, etc. has to balance their budget there are only TWO ways:

1). Increase revenues,

2). Decrease expenditures

EMU has done all it knows how to increase revenues trying to increase enrollment, raising tuition, selling off assets (e.g. parking), etc.

EMU has been successful at raising revenue by selling off some assets. EMU has been generally successful raising some funds for athletics through donors.

As has been reported in quotes, EMU has been cutting pretty damn near across the board to cut expenditures.

EMU's biggest failure, IMHO, has been with endowment. A 500M endowment @ 10% investment income = 50M a year.

If 25M could be used to pay back bonds used for new construction, etc. it would help the bottom line.

Yet, last time I checked the endowment was under 100M.
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(08-17-2019 11:38 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I have a great idea. Let's buy new uniforms because six isn't enough.

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(08-21-2019 08:44 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-21-2019 01:27 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Take a look at the MAC bowl record. It’s atrocious. Easily the worst in fbs. The Sun Belt has dominated us. The Sun Belt.

Our great achievements as an athletic department have disproportionately been in the non revenue sports. But we have almost nothing left to point to as exceptional presently.

The idea that other schools cut sports so we should too is a loser mentality. They failed so we should too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/con...bowls.html

I'll try to reply to your post, honestly and constructively.

When a school, governmental unit (e.g., city), company, etc. has to balance their budget there are only TWO ways:

1). Increase revenues,

2). Decrease expenditures

EMU has done all it knows how to increase revenues trying to increase enrollment, raising tuition, selling off assets (e.g. parking), etc.

EMU has been successful at raising revenue by selling off some assets. EMU has been generally successful raising some funds for athletics through donors.

As has been reported in quotes, EMU has been cutting pretty damn near across the board to cut expenditures.

EMU's biggest failure, IMHO, has been with endowment. A 500M endowment @ 10% investment income = 50M a year.

If 25M could be used to pay back bonds used for new construction, etc. it would help the bottom line.

Yet, last time I checked the endowment was under 100M.

Let me know where you get a safe 10% return in today's market
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(08-22-2019 04:21 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(08-21-2019 08:44 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-21-2019 01:27 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Take a look at the MAC bowl record. It’s atrocious. Easily the worst in fbs. The Sun Belt has dominated us. The Sun Belt.

Our great achievements as an athletic department have disproportionately been in the non revenue sports. But we have almost nothing left to point to as exceptional presently.

The idea that other schools cut sports so we should too is a loser mentality. They failed so we should too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/con...bowls.html

I'll try to reply to your post, honestly and constructively.

When a school, governmental unit (e.g., city), company, etc. has to balance their budget there are only TWO ways:

1). Increase revenues,

2). Decrease expenditures

EMU has done all it knows how to increase revenues trying to increase enrollment, raising tuition, selling off assets (e.g. parking), etc.

EMU has been successful at raising revenue by selling off some assets. EMU has been generally successful raising some funds for athletics through donors.

As has been reported in quotes, EMU has been cutting pretty damn near across the board to cut expenditures.

EMU's biggest failure, IMHO, has been with endowment. A 500M endowment @ 10% investment income = 50M a year.

If 25M could be used to pay back bonds used for new construction, etc. it would help the bottom line.

Yet, last time I checked the endowment was under 100M.

Let me know where you get a safe 10% return in today's market

Things have been weird lately, but over say 5 year time periods things have been remarkably good.

The "C" fund is a fund which tracks the S&P 500, and is kind of a 'benchmark' for the broader market. (G fund is 'cash', F is bonds, S is small cap stocks and I is International stocks).

https://www.tsp.gov/InvestmentFunds/Fund...turns.html
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(08-22-2019 02:25 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-22-2019 04:21 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(08-21-2019 08:44 AM)emu steve Wrote:  [quote='ljmhurons' pid='16246641' dateline='1566368822']
Take a look at the MAC bowl record. It’s atrocious. Easily the worst in fbs. The Sun Belt has dominated us. The Sun Belt.

Our great achievements as an athletic department have disproportionately been in the non revenue sports. But we have almost nothing left to point to as exceptional presently.

The idea that other schools cut sports so we should too is a loser mentality. They failed so we should too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/con...bowls.html

I'll try to reply to your post, honestly and constructively.

When a school, governmental unit (e.g., city), company, etc. has to balance their budget there are only TWO ways:

1). Increase revenues,

2). Decrease expenditures

EMU has done all it knows how to increase revenues trying to increase enrollment, raising tuition, selling off assets (e.g. parking), etc.

EMU has been successful at raising revenue by selling off some assets. EMU has been generally successful raising some funds for athletics through donors.

As has been reported in quotes, EMU has been cutting pretty damn near across the board to cut expenditures.

EMU's biggest failure, IMHO, has been with endowment. A 500M endowment @ 10% investment income = 50M a year.

If 25M could be used to pay back bonds used for new construction, etc. it would help the bottom line.

Yet, last time I checked the endowment was under 100M.

Let me know where you get a safe 10% return in today's market

Things have been weird lately, but over say 5 year time periods things have been remarkably good.

The "C" fund is a fund which tracks the S&P 500, and is kind of a 'benchmark' for the broader market. (G fund is 'cash', F is bonds, S is small cap stocks and I is International stocks).

https://www.tsp.gov/InvestmentFunds/Fund...turns.html

The stock can crash and often does.
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(08-21-2019 05:49 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  
(08-21-2019 01:27 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Take a look at the MAC bowl record. It’s atrocious. Easily the worst in fbs. The Sun Belt has dominated us. The Sun Belt.

Our great achievements as an athletic department have disproportionately been in the non revenue sports. But we have almost nothing left to point to as exceptional presently.

The idea that other schools cut sports so we should too is a loser mentality. They failed so we should too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/con...bowls.html


Conferences are not graded solely on their bowl records. Biggest thing for conferences is do they have a TV deal and how many players do they send to the NFL. We are doing great in both regards.


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We have fewer guys in the nfl than everyone but the sun belt, a relatively new conference with lots of turmoil and fewer schools.

Tue, Wed, and Thur night games is all one needs to know about our tv contract.

Someone has to be last. If the MAC doubled the football spending, they might move up a few notches but still be near the bottom. That’s the difficult situation it’s in.
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(08-21-2019 05:56 AM)easterneagles79 Wrote:  LJM is probably from the same group of people that discredit our trips to bowl games the past few years because in their mind it’s frivolous spending...

But then turns around and cites the importance of bowl game records when measuring a conferences worth.

I thought going to the first bowl was nice. It showed improvement. The we had a losing season followed by another 7-6. No improvement.
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F*ck Rusty. Can you please put your positive pants back on?
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(08-23-2019 07:02 PM)masttg Wrote:  F*ck Rusty. Can you please put your positive pants back on?

Amen Sir!
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Such sensitive snowflakes.

Here’s an example of what the football program is up against. I was at a parking lot near the airport and a guy in his 30s-40s saw the E on my plate and asked if I live in Ypsilanti. I say no I went to school at EMU. He then asked me if they still have a football team.
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(08-28-2019 04:02 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Such sensitive snowflakes.

Here’s an example of what the football program is up against. I was at a parking lot near the airport and a guy in his 30s-40s saw the E on my plate and asked if I live in Ypsilanti. I say no I went to school at EMU. He then asked me if they still have a football team.

Tell him to turn on his TV.

EMU FB will be on BTN, ESPN family, etc this year.
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(08-28-2019 04:02 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Such sensitive snowflakes.

Here’s an example of what the football program is up against. I was at a parking lot near the airport and a guy in his 30s-40s saw the E on my plate and asked if I live in Ypsilanti. I say no I went to school at EMU. He then asked me if they still have a football team.

Maybe getting overlooked isn't fun, but schools like Kent and UMass are getting close to $2M for a (single) road game guarantee.

They are probably crying all the way to the bank.

$2M pays a lot of bills. I hope we have hit the jackpot with some of our future road games vs. Power Five conference teams.

https://www.gazettenet.com/UMass-footbal...0-11789352
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We are getting 800k for the 2019 game with Kentucky and 350k next year
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(08-29-2019 06:25 AM)emu79 Wrote:  We are getting 800k for the 2019 game with Kentucky and 350k next year

Looks like a little over 2 million total for Coastal Carolina, Kentucky and Illinois. Pretty good especially if we can take win 2 outta 3 of those.
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Guys, there are plenty of ways which boosters can make contributions (pledges) of $5,000 and up.

Lot of naming opportunities at $12,500 and up and also naming opportunities for room furnishings at 5 or 10K.

Good way for faculty, staff, boosters, fmr. FB players, etc. to make a gift of ANY size.

http://www.emuchampionshipbuilding.com/n...rtunities/ (e.g., see page 6 and 7 for the 5-figure gifts).

http://www.emuchampionshipbuilding.com/r...rtunities/ (4 and 5-figure gifts).
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(08-28-2019 04:27 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-28-2019 04:02 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  Such sensitive snowflakes.

Here’s an example of what the football program is up against. I was at a parking lot near the airport and a guy in his 30s-40s saw the E on my plate and asked if I live in Ypsilanti. I say no I went to school at EMU. He then asked me if they still have a football team.

Tell him to turn on his TV.

EMU FB will be on BTN, ESPN family, etc this year.

It isn't just EMU it's ignorance in general. I had to explain to an Illinois fan that NIU was FBS and Illinois state was FCS and what that meant and that the conferences were different. They are clueless. Probably Northwestern fans are bright enough to figure that out but other fan bases are not.
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