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RE: GS Shai Werts and Quan Griffin Suspended Until Further Notice
I hate it for any kid. If a cop was gonna plant something it wouldn’t be on a hood. This whole thing is weird.
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https://www.wjcl.com/article/georgia-sou...s/28588513

Werts claimed the white residue was bird poop and that he has tried to wash it off his car earlier. The officer report did acknowledge that the residue looked like it has been smeared by a wiper. It did test positive for cocaine although we know the issues that come with those field tests.

Also Shai attempted to drive to a well lit area before pulling over. Sounds like the cop was just aggravated that Shai didn’t pull over immediately and was looking for a reason to get him in trouble.
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(08-02-2019 09:15 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:14 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:12 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:08 AM)APPrising Wrote:  He looks high AF in his mug shot. Not that I would know what looking high would look like...

He don't look strung out on blow though. Eyes would be much wider haha.

I think you're right, definitely not doing coke.

How do you guys know this? Please explain further.

I just know and knowing is half the battle.
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Does it matter if you have a performance-enhancing drug in your system before the season begins?
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(08-02-2019 09:31 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  https://www.wjcl.com/article/georgia-sou...s/28588513

Werts claimed the white residue was bird poop and that he has tried to wash it off his car earlier. The officer report did acknowledge that the residue looked like it has been smeared by a wiper. It did test positive for cocaine although we know the issues that come with those field tests.

Lord this story just gets weirder every time we get more information.
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According to an incident report from the Saluda County Sheriff's Office, Werts, 21, was clocked going 80 mph in Saluda the night of July 31.

After several attempts to pull his vehicle over, during which he reportedly called 911 to say he planned to drive closer into town to a more well-lit area, Werts was charged with speeding.

Authorities then say they noticed a white substance on the hood of his car that twice tested positive for cocaine. According to the report, Werts said it was bird poop and he had attempted to wash it off at a car wash in Newberry days earlier.

The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.


How does one get cocaine residue found on the hood of their car, that was also wiped by a windshield wiper and fluid? I'm no cocaine residue expert here, but how could something so small be tested positive after being wiped with fluid...and be located on the hood?
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(08-02-2019 09:17 AM)Klak Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:15 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:14 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:12 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:08 AM)APPrising Wrote:  He looks high AF in his mug shot. Not that I would know what looking high would look like...

He don't look strung out on blow though. Eyes would be much wider haha.

I think you're right, definitely not doing coke.

How do you guys know this? Please explain further.

How do YOU know? You jumped in without knowing anything about this situation and currently have the most posts in the thread. You seem almost giddy.

Personally I think you need to shut the **** up.

The question relates to how you know how someone looks when strung out on cocaine...

That is all.

Facts as we know them: residue that tested positive as cocaine found on hood. Pulled over for speeding. Suspended indefinitely (no mention of pending the outcome of the investigation that I saw).

Doesn't look good.
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This sounds fishy as hell. If he's innocent I hope he gets reinstated quickly enough.
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(08-02-2019 09:46 AM)The Demoralizer Wrote:  According to an incident report from the Saluda County Sheriff's Office, Werts, 21, was clocked going 80 mph in Saluda the night of July 31.

After several attempts to pull his vehicle over, during which he reportedly called 911 to say he planned to drive closer into town to a more well-lit area, Werts was charged with speeding.

Authorities then say they noticed a white substance on the hood of his car that twice tested positive for cocaine. According to the report, Werts said it was bird poop and he had attempted to wash it off at a car wash in Newberry days earlier.

The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.


How does one get cocaine residue found on the hood of their car, that was also wiped by a windshield wiper and fluid? I'm no cocaine residue expert here, but how could something so small be tested positive after being wiped with fluid...and be located on the hood?

I'm sure the testing done at the police department in a town of 3000 residents in rural SC is top notch.
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(08-02-2019 09:46 AM)The Demoralizer Wrote:  According to an incident report from the Saluda County Sheriff's Office, Werts, 21, was clocked going 80 mph in Saluda the night of July 31.

After several attempts to pull his vehicle over, during which he reportedly called 911 to say he planned to drive closer into town to a more well-lit area, Werts was charged with speeding.

Authorities then say they noticed a white substance on the hood of his car that twice tested positive for cocaine. According to the report, Werts said it was bird poop and he had attempted to wash it off at a car wash in Newberry days earlier.

The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.


How does one get cocaine residue found on the hood of their car, that was also wiped by a windshield wiper and fluid? I'm no cocaine residue expert here, but how could something so small be tested positive after being wiped with fluid...and be located on the hood?

They are using the coca plant in windshield wiper fluid now...simple as that.
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(08-02-2019 09:52 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:17 AM)Klak Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:15 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:14 AM)APPrising Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:12 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  He don't look strung out on blow though. Eyes would be much wider haha.

I think you're right, definitely not doing coke.

How do you guys know this? Please explain further.

How do YOU know? You jumped in without knowing anything about this situation and currently have the most posts in the thread. You seem almost giddy.

Personally I think you need to shut the **** up.

The question relates to how you know how someone looks when strung out on cocaine...

That is all.

Facts as we know them: residue that tested positive as cocaine found on hood. Pulled over for speeding. Suspended indefinitely (no mention of pending the outcome of the investigation that I saw).

Doesn't look good.


Indefinitely means: "for an unlimited or unspecified period of time."

Quit reaching....
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(08-02-2019 09:54 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:46 AM)The Demoralizer Wrote:  According to an incident report from the Saluda County Sheriff's Office, Werts, 21, was clocked going 80 mph in Saluda the night of July 31.

After several attempts to pull his vehicle over, during which he reportedly called 911 to say he planned to drive closer into town to a more well-lit area, Werts was charged with speeding.

Authorities then say they noticed a white substance on the hood of his car that twice tested positive for cocaine. According to the report, Werts said it was bird poop and he had attempted to wash it off at a car wash in Newberry days earlier.

The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.


How does one get cocaine residue found on the hood of their car, that was also wiped by a windshield wiper and fluid? I'm no cocaine residue expert here, but how could something so small be tested positive after being wiped with fluid...and be located on the hood?

They are using the coca plant in windshield wiper fluid now...simple as that.

Orrrr cleaning products can cause a false positive result on a field test kit, which was also indicated on that report I posted earlier.

Look, I know you want Werts to be gone, just admit it and then we'll know to disregard everything you say instead of just assuming that we should.
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(08-02-2019 08:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

Really though, does anybody with more experience with law enforcement want to explain how it’s possible to “discover cocaine residue” on the hood of a car that’s been pulled over for speeding?

For the sake of the two young men involved speculation is not helpful. Being supportive and being patient is helpful.
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(08-02-2019 10:00 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:54 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:46 AM)The Demoralizer Wrote:  According to an incident report from the Saluda County Sheriff's Office, Werts, 21, was clocked going 80 mph in Saluda the night of July 31.

After several attempts to pull his vehicle over, during which he reportedly called 911 to say he planned to drive closer into town to a more well-lit area, Werts was charged with speeding.

Authorities then say they noticed a white substance on the hood of his car that twice tested positive for cocaine. According to the report, Werts said it was bird poop and he had attempted to wash it off at a car wash in Newberry days earlier.

The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.The report indicated the substance that tested positive for cocaine did appear to have been wiped by windshield wipers and wiper fluid. Werts was then charged with possession of cocaine less than 1 gram.


How does one get cocaine residue found on the hood of their car, that was also wiped by a windshield wiper and fluid? I'm no cocaine residue expert here, but how could something so small be tested positive after being wiped with fluid...and be located on the hood?

They are using the coca plant in windshield wiper fluid now...simple as that.

Orrrr cleaning products can cause a false positive result on a field test kit, which was also indicated on that report I posted earlier.

Look, I know you want Werts to be gone, just admit it and then we'll know to disregard everything you say instead of just assuming that we should.

That is categorically untrue. However, I find it hard that a police officer couldn't discern bird sh** from cocaine residue. I also happen to like the idea of seeing Werts back in his freshman year form in Boone this season.

I understood the hype Southern fans had in beating App last season, but you did so without two of the best players (most important) playing beyond the first quarter. I'd rather see both teams with their full compliment of talent ready to go this season to grow the rivalry. Werts provides that revenge factor considering how well he played in the game following Fehr's exit.

However, this is outside of football and I prefer not to demonize the police just because you don't like the result here. Is it possible that they got two false positives? Sure. But is there evidence to show that false positives have been caused by cleaning agents? It isn't that difficult to get bird sh** off a car either, even when it's been baked on there in the heat that we had a few weeks ago.

Also, what does Southern's experience behind Werts look like?
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(08-02-2019 09:52 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  The question relates to how you know how someone looks when strung out on cocaine...

That is all.

Facts as we know them: residue that tested positive as cocaine found on hood. Pulled over for speeding. Suspended indefinitely (no mention of pending the outcome of the investigation that I saw).

Doesn't look good.

He didn't say indefinitely - he said intermittently - meaning there is the likelihood that this is only temporary. For Shai that's likely true, not soo much for Quan though who has a LOT of charges against him.
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(08-02-2019 10:06 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 09:52 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  The question relates to how you know how someone looks when strung out on cocaine...

That is all.

Facts as we know them: residue that tested positive as cocaine found on hood. Pulled over for speeding. Suspended indefinitely (no mention of pending the outcome of the investigation that I saw).

Doesn't look good.

He didn't say indefinitely - he said intermittently - meaning there is the likelihood that this is only temporary. For Shai that's likely true, not soo much for Quan though who has a LOT of charges against him.

Gotcha.

If Shai is from Newberry, or the vicinity, wouldn't it be faster to get on I-26 and go to I-95?
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Based on that statement in the police report, I will bet all charges will be dropped by the DA. That statement about white substance smeared by windshield wiper blades???? This is a pissed off cop who wanted to feel like a big shot for the day by abusing a minority.
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(08-02-2019 10:12 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Based on that statement in the police report, I will bet all charges will be dropped by the DA. That statement about white substance smeared by windshield wiper blades???? This is a pissed off cop who wanted to feel like a big shot for the day by abusing a minority.

Tell us more.

"Oop, thats bird sh** you say? Look's like Cocaine to me." "Barnie to dispatch, Barnie to dispatch, we have someone who was doing lines off their wiper blade.."
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(08-02-2019 10:12 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Based on that statement in the police report, I will bet all charges will be dropped by the DA. That statement about white substance smeared by windshield wiper blades???? This is a pissed off cop who wanted to feel like a big shot for the day by abusing a minority.

While I agree, the substance field tested positive for cocaine. That makes the situation a bit hairier
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(08-02-2019 10:15 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 10:12 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Based on that statement in the police report, I will bet all charges will be dropped by the DA. That statement about white substance smeared by windshield wiper blades???? This is a pissed off cop who wanted to feel like a big shot for the day by abusing a minority.

Tell us more.

"Oop, thats bird sh** you say? Look's like Cocaine to me." "Barnie to dispatch, Barnie to dispatch, we have someone who was doing lines off their wiper blade.."

Praying that the bird gets the help he needs
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