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Notable Games:

Finished
Temple:
- @USC
- Villanova
- Miami (neutral)
- @Penn (110 net)
- 1st rd tourney Maryland
- 2 more tourney games (Harvard, a&m, Marquette, Davidson, 2nd USC are all possibilities)

Wichita
- Oklahoma
- @Oklahoma st
- vcu
- ole miss
- tourney 1st rd- South Carolina
- tourney second round (potential for WVU )

UCF
- @Oklahoma
- Miami
- Charleston 108 net
- 1 rd tourney: penn 110 net
- 2nd/3rd round (potential for Arizona, wake or providence)

Tulsa
- @Arkansas
- @Vandy
- @KState
- vs. Boise St.
- vs. Colorado St.

UConn
- @villanova
- Florida
- Indiana (neutral)
- 1st round tourney- buffalo
- 2 more games (potential of xavier, miami and 2nd florida)

Houston
- BYU
- oklahoma st
- @south carolina
- @oregon
- texas state (134 net)
- 2nd/3rd ROUND of tourney (potential of Gtech, and Washington)

Tulane (note Tulane plays in 2 tourneys )-
- Saint Louis (nuetral)
- @Southern Miss (net 102)
- 1st) a mid major one - lots of good net teams
- 2nd) 1st round Mississippi state
- 2nd) 2nd/3rd rounds (on the miracle Tulane wins villanova, Baylor and Utah are potentials )

ECU
- liberty 53 net..potentially twice

Cincinnati
- @ohio state
- vermont 69 net
- unlv
- @xavier
- Tennessee
- iowa (neutral)
- Colgate (129 net)
- Drake: (132 net)
- playing in a 3 game tourney with no major brands, but plenty of mid major who could produce high NET

USF
- BC
- Florida state (neutral)
- Wofford
- Utah State (neutral)
- Furman
- Potential 2nd/3rd round opponents (new mexico st. 46 net, Nebraska 51 net..overall tourney not great)

Mostly done (likely no more major games added)

Memphis
- oregon (nuetral, in different city in Oregon)
- ole miss
- nc state (neutral)
- @Tennessee
- Georgia

SMU (mostly unknown but the rest expected to be filled with mid-major)
- @unlv
- Georgetown
- @Georgia
- @Vanderbilt


interesting notes:
1) a few aac are in MUST win 1st rounds of thier tourney (in games they could lose)..the difference between a dreadful and great schedule (losers bracket is bad)..ucf/uconn/usf

2) Tulane 2 tourneys is unique. good schedule if they are good...dreadful schedule if they are bad..another consequence their games are back to back to back..the rest of their OOC will be heavily spaced out
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Houston needs to beef up that schedule.
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(07-25-2019 08:06 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Houston needs to beef up that schedule.

agreed, our schedule is good enough to make the ncaa tourney, espcially if we meet washingon (preseason top 25), but would need some more spice if we want to get higher than a 4seed (with a dominant record off-course)

note our coach already confirmed a "major" game being added ..but note it was said 6 months ago..the fact its not announced yet makes our fanbase think it fell through

also noting we are pretty good at getting 1 great buy game (utah st last year for example)....


but while you are looking ant houston....USF and Tulsa both believe they are making a tourney and neither have tourney schedules so far
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assuming this is the finishing #1-2 finish in the AAC..And a great non conferecne record..

if 28+ wins, what seed to do i see them in
- Temple #3 seed (must advance in tourney in winners bracket)
- Wichita #6 seed
- UCF #5 seed (must include Arizona win)- #8 seed without arizona
- Cincy #2 seed- ..#1 seed on the table (if Nevada or wku are major surprises in their leagues)
- Memphis #4 seed on paper...28+ win with their preseason hype theyd be given a #2 seed
- SMU #8 seed
- ECU- last 4 in, on the strength of the conference

schedule as is (assuming unannounced games are rest of 200-250 rpi)
- UConn #2 seed (must advance to tourney final/ @vill win) ..#7 seed if uconn ends up in losers bracket of tourney/dont beat vill
- Houston #3 seed (must beat Washington)..#5 seed if no Washington win
- Tulane #5 seed (winning both tourneys)...."last 4 in" if they lose to miss state
- Tulsa #10 seed
- USF #8 seed (must meet Nebraska, new mexico state in tourney)... last four in otherwise
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Tulsa also has a game with ORU I'm sure. We're also playing a double game event with Okie State at the BOK Center. They play Minnesota? right before we play Colorado St.
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(07-25-2019 01:13 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Tulsa also has a game with ORU I'm sure. We're also playing a double game event with Okie State at the BOK Center. They play Minnesota? right before we play Colorado St.

just noting game i believe would impact the committe...csu/oru probably wont
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(07-25-2019 08:06 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Houston needs to beef up that schedule.

Not sure why you think that? @Oregon and a neutral site game against Washington is probably better than anything we played on non-conference last year. Add in home games against Oklahoma State and BYU to go along with our road game against South Carolina. That’s probably 5 top 75 opponents. Also, we potentially get the winner of Georgia Tech/Boise State. That’s 6 top 100 opponents, two of those being top 25. And if we add Louisville or NC State to our schedule, that’s 7 top 100 opponents out of conference. Our OOC schedule is fine. If we add Louisville, that’s 3 top 25 teams OOC. How many top 25 teams do we need to play OOC for the schedule to be “beefed up”?
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(07-25-2019 02:36 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 08:06 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Houston needs to beef up that schedule.

Not sure why you think that? @Oregon and a neutral site game against Washington is probably better than anything we played on non-conference last year. Add in home games against Oklahoma State and BYU to go along with our road game against South Carolina. That’s probably 5 top 75 opponents. Also, we potentially get the winner of Georgia Tech/Boise State. That’s 6 top 100 opponents, two of those being top 25. And if we add Louisville or NC State to our schedule, that’s 7 top 100 opponents out of conference. Our OOC schedule is fine. If we add Louisville, that’s 3 top 25 teams OOC. How many top 25 teams do we need to play OOC for the schedule to be “beefed up”?


You listed 3 teams and said Top 75, but 2 are at home. So if they end up being slightly outside of Top 75, so 76,77 that means 2 Q3 games. At best those will be Q2.

Like Wichita, there aren't a lot of Q1 opportunities on the schedule.
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(07-25-2019 03:02 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 02:36 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 08:06 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Houston needs to beef up that schedule.

Not sure why you think that? @Oregon and a neutral site game against Washington is probably better than anything we played on non-conference last year. Add in home games against Oklahoma State and BYU to go along with our road game against South Carolina. That’s probably 5 top 75 opponents. Also, we potentially get the winner of Georgia Tech/Boise State. That’s 6 top 100 opponents, two of those being top 25. And if we add Louisville or NC State to our schedule, that’s 7 top 100 opponents out of conference. Our OOC schedule is fine. If we add Louisville, that’s 3 top 25 teams OOC. How many top 25 teams do we need to play OOC for the schedule to be “beefed up”?


You listed 3 teams and said Top 75, but 2 are at home. So if they end up being slightly outside of Top 75, so 76,77 that means 2 Q3 games. At best those will be Q2.

Like Wichita, there aren't a lot of Q1 opportunities on the schedule.

Both are good enough that if you win them all, it won't matter.
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(07-25-2019 03:02 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 02:36 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 08:06 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Houston needs to beef up that schedule.

Not sure why you think that? @Oregon and a neutral site game against Washington is probably better than anything we played on non-conference last year. Add in home games against Oklahoma State and BYU to go along with our road game against South Carolina. That’s probably 5 top 75 opponents. Also, we potentially get the winner of Georgia Tech/Boise State. That’s 6 top 100 opponents, two of those being top 25. And if we add Louisville or NC State to our schedule, that’s 7 top 100 opponents out of conference. Our OOC schedule is fine. If we add Louisville, that’s 3 top 25 teams OOC. How many top 25 teams do we need to play OOC for the schedule to be “beefed up”?


You listed 3 teams and said Top 75, but 2 are at home. So if they end up being slightly outside of Top 75, so 76,77 that means 2 Q3 games. At best those will be Q2.

Like Wichita, there aren't a lot of Q1 opportunities on the schedule.

Do we agree that @Oregon and @South Carolina are Q1 games? Washington on a neutral floor is a Q1 game? BYU and Oklahoma State had really bad seasons last year, they were still hovering around 75. I expect both to be better this season. I would be shocked if they fell outside of the top 75. So, 2 Q2 games. A chance at 3, maybe 4 Q1 wins on an OOC schedule is not bad. We only had 2 Q1 games on our OOC last season. We ended up a 3 seed. Our schedule this year appears to have improved.
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(07-25-2019 03:02 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 02:36 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 08:06 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Houston needs to beef up that schedule.

Not sure why you think that? @Oregon and a neutral site game against Washington is probably better than anything we played on non-conference last year. Add in home games against Oklahoma State and BYU to go along with our road game against South Carolina. That’s probably 5 top 75 opponents. Also, we potentially get the winner of Georgia Tech/Boise State. That’s 6 top 100 opponents, two of those being top 25. And if we add Louisville or NC State to our schedule, that’s 7 top 100 opponents out of conference. Our OOC schedule is fine. If we add Louisville, that’s 3 top 25 teams OOC. How many top 25 teams do we need to play OOC for the schedule to be “beefed up”?


You listed 3 teams and said Top 75, but 2 are at home. So if they end up being slightly outside of Top 75, so 76,77 that means 2 Q3 games. At best those will be Q2.

Like Wichita, there aren't a lot of Q1 opportunities on the schedule.

like i state above, it will get us in to the tourney...we probably need 1 more big game if we want to fight for a top 3 seed

oregon will likely be a Q1, if we get Washington they will be Q1

None of our buy games have been revealed yet..note utah state was a q1 buy game for us last season..and there isa rumor that 1 major game was in the works ...
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If UH doesn't add its rumored ACC game then our schedule is going to look a little light. We'll still make the tourney but being a protected seed may be a little tough.
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(07-25-2019 03:15 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Do we agree that @Oregon and @South Carolina are Q1 games? Washington on a neutral floor is a Q1 game? BYU and Oklahoma State had really bad seasons last year, they were still hovering around 75. I expect both to be better this season. I would be shocked if they fell outside of the top 75. So, 2 Q2 games. A chance at 3, maybe 4 Q1 wins on an OOC schedule is not bad. We only had 2 Q1 games on our OOC last season. We ended up a 3 seed. Our schedule this year appears to have improved.

south carolina is not a guaranteed q1, they were 79 last year...who knows what will happen wiith them

and we went undefeated is non conference last season...we cant bank on that every year
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(07-25-2019 03:15 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 03:02 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 02:36 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(07-25-2019 08:06 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Houston needs to beef up that schedule.

Not sure why you think that? @Oregon and a neutral site game against Washington is probably better than anything we played on non-conference last year. Add in home games against Oklahoma State and BYU to go along with our road game against South Carolina. That’s probably 5 top 75 opponents. Also, we potentially get the winner of Georgia Tech/Boise State. That’s 6 top 100 opponents, two of those being top 25. And if we add Louisville or NC State to our schedule, that’s 7 top 100 opponents out of conference. Our OOC schedule is fine. If we add Louisville, that’s 3 top 25 teams OOC. How many top 25 teams do we need to play OOC for the schedule to be “beefed up”?


You listed 3 teams and said Top 75, but 2 are at home. So if they end up being slightly outside of Top 75, so 76,77 that means 2 Q3 games. At best those will be Q2.

Like Wichita, there aren't a lot of Q1 opportunities on the schedule.

Do we agree that @Oregon and @South Carolina are Q1 games? Washington on a neutral floor is a Q1 game? BYU and Oklahoma State had really bad seasons last year, they were still hovering around 75. I expect both to be better this season. I would be shocked if they fell outside of the top 75. So, 2 Q2 games. A chance at 3, maybe 4 Q1 wins on an OOC schedule is not bad. We only had 2 Q1 games on our OOC last season. We ended up a 3 seed. Our schedule this year appears to have improved.

@South Carolina SHOULD be Q1, but they weren't great last year (Finished NET 79) and i could see them being >75. Oregon is good. BYU and OSU are Q2/Q3.

It's going to require a few breaks but not a lot of for sure Q1 games is my point. I'd only give that one to @Oregon.
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Tulsa's schedule came out today. No Neutral Site Tournament this season.

Notable games are:

@Arkansas
@Vandy
@KState
vs. Boise St.
vs. Colorado St.
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I know this is beating a dead horse but why can't we schedule some road games against top 100 opponents? I mean we can't schedule UNC,Duke,State or Wake or even Clemson or South Carolina on the road? That would get us ready for conference play and you never know what might happen with one of those games. I know this is not the topic but when I see Liberty as our best game that is just sad.
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Jank is such a *****.

Says he doesn’t want to go to a tourney where the team might have to play three consecutive games.

Hence the weak OOC.

Can we please be done with this dude?
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(07-30-2019 06:25 AM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  Jank is such a *****.

Says he doesn’t want to go to a tourney where the team might have to play three consecutive games.

Hence the weak OOC.

Can we please be done with this dude?

So is he skipping the conference tourney or just tanking the day 3 game (should you get there)?
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(07-30-2019 06:31 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:25 AM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  Jank is such a *****.

Says he doesn’t want to go to a tourney where the team might have to play three consecutive games.

Hence the weak OOC.

Can we please be done with this dude?

So is he skipping the conference tourney or just tanking the day 3 game (should you get there)?
You're misinterpreting. He never said anything about not going to a tourney where his team would have to play 4 straight games.

WSU fans have known it for years. Jank is interested in a schedule where he can win just enough games to keep his job. It's hard to fire somebody that won 22 games, even if none of them were against good competition.
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(07-30-2019 10:16 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:31 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-30-2019 06:25 AM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  Jank is such a *****.

Says he doesn’t want to go to a tourney where the team might have to play three consecutive games.

Hence the weak OOC.

Can we please be done with this dude?

So is he skipping the conference tourney or just tanking the day 3 game (should you get there)?
You're misinterpreting. He never said anything about not going to a tourney where his team would have to play 4 straight games.

WSU fans have known it for years. Jank is interested in a schedule where he can win just enough games to keep his job. It's hard to fire somebody that won 22 games, even if none of them were against good competition.

It's well known in SMU circles that Jank won't play three games in three days so no pre-season tourneys for us (unless they are only 2 games)
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