(07-23-2019 06:55 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 02:34 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  My guess of Bowl Pool games:

Boca Raton vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Cure vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Myrtle vs. MAC/AAC
Camellia vs. CUSA/MAC
Frisco vs. CUSA/MAC/AAC

You forgot Nola. We were the league that started that game. It’s always going to be ours

Well I was specifically talking about the bowl pool. NOLA and Mobile are locks for us, so they won't be in the pool.

I think instead of G5 conferences retaining their top bowl and their lower ones entering the bowl pool, it should be the other way around.

Picture this:

We pick 4 “prestigious” G5 bowls, say, the NOLA Bowl, the Boca Bowl, the New Mexico Bowl, and the Gasparilla Bowl

There are 5 G5 champions. One will always go to the NY6 Access bowl, the other 4 are matched up in two of the 4 prestigious G5 bowls.

There are 5 G5 champion runner-ups. The other two prestigious G5 bowls can select which 4 of that group they want to invite (this could be based on record or proximity and is entirely up to those bowls). The 5th conference runner-up will just go to one of the standard bowl tie-ins of their conference.

All the other bowl eligible G5 teams will fill the remaining slots for their conference.

The 4 prestigious G5 bowls will rotate between being champ bowls and runner up bowls on a yearly basis.

(07-23-2019 07:49 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I think instead of G5 conferences retaining their top bowl and their lower ones entering the bowl pool, it should be the other way around.

Picture this:

We pick 4 “prestigious” G5 bowls, say, the NOLA Bowl, the Boca Bowl, the New Mexico Bowl, and the Gasparilla Bowl

There are 5 G5 champions. One will always go to the NY6 Access bowl, the other 4 are matched up in two of the 4 prestigious G5 bowls.

There are 5 G5 champion runner-ups. The other two prestigious G5 bowls can select which 4 of that group they want to invite (this could be based on record or proximity and is entirely up to those bowls). The 5th conference runner-up will just go to one of the standard bowl tie-ins of their conference.

All the other bowl eligible G5 teams will fill the remaining slots for their conference.

The 4 prestigious G5 bowls will rotate between being champ bowls and runner up bowls on a yearly basis.

Well that's a more ideal version of this bowl pool idea. But sadly it's not what is going to happen in the first year of 2020. Maybe that's what will become of it

(07-23-2019 06:55 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 02:34 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  My guess of Bowl Pool games:

Boca Raton vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Cure vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Myrtle vs. MAC/AAC
Camellia vs. CUSA/MAC
Frisco vs. CUSA/MAC/AAC

You forgot Nola. We were the league that started that game. It’s always going to be ours

Unless there is more to back up this claim than "we started it," I wouldn't be so sure. The SLC started the Independence Bowl. UTA's only D-1A championship came the first year the Indy dropped the SLC for "greener" pastures.

(07-24-2019 01:11 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 06:55 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 02:34 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  My guess of Bowl Pool games:

Boca Raton vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Cure vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Myrtle vs. MAC/AAC
Camellia vs. CUSA/MAC
Frisco vs. CUSA/MAC/AAC

You forgot Nola. We were the league that started that game. It’s always going to be ours

Unless there is more to back up this claim than "we started it," I wouldn't be so sure. The SLC started the Independence Bowl. UTA's only D-1A championship came the first year the Indy dropped the SLC for "greener" pastures.

The Indy is the bowl Im was thinking has to be set up to fall your way. McMurphy has posted the MW Bowl line up and it doesnt include the Indy Bowl. If he is correct---it seems to me its almost a certainty that the Indy is going to be a CUSA vs SB Bowl. Thats a bowl that been around a long time---is well known---with some history---and a decent payout. Additionally, the Indy Bowl is situated right smack in the middle of both the SB and CUSA footprints----why not make the Indy a champ vs champ bowl event?

(07-24-2019 01:11 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 06:55 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-23-2019 02:34 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  My guess of Bowl Pool games:

Boca Raton vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Cure vs. AAC/CUSA/MAC
Myrtle vs. MAC/AAC
Camellia vs. CUSA/MAC
Frisco vs. CUSA/MAC/AAC

You forgot Nola. We were the league that started that game. It’s always going to be ours

Unless there is more to back up this claim than "we started it," I wouldn't be so sure. The SLC started the Independence Bowl. UTA's only D-1A championship came the first year the Indy dropped the SLC for "greener" pastures.

Chiefsfan overstates the case, GNOSF is free to contract whomever they desire but Sun Belt paid a lot of the costs associated by providing staffing and sponsoring events like the coaches wives luncheon. The game would never have been created nor survived the early years without the SBC.

Would the Sun Belt lease space from GNOSF for offices or keep the hoops tournament in NOLA if GNOSF dropped the SBC from the game? Unlikely in both cases. We would more than likely pack up the league HQ and move it to Birmingham so we are near the SEC HQ and can go hang out in the SEC war room during games as Steve Shaw and crew are doing live review of in progress SEC and Sun Belt games or we would head to DFA and be near the commissioners and HQ of Big XII, AAC and CUSA. The tournament would be moving around based on economic bids.

Shreveport was totally different situation. NCAA back then had more restrictive rules on bowl certification and had rejected their bid. AState goes 11-0 unbeaten, untied, and uninvited and Shreveport offers to take the SLC champ to prevent a repeat and NCAA sprinkled holy water on the game and soon as the five year contract was up dumped the SLC but the SLC didn't do anything other than provide a team.

We know New Orleans bowl - pick Louisiana if eligible, and Mobile, AL bowl is anti USA.
We just need to keep winning bowl games. Does this mean if we get 6 or 7 bowl eligible teams that there is a chance for teams 6 and 7 to get to bowl if eligible?

(07-24-2019 09:59 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  We know New Orleans bowl - pick Louisiana if eligible

New Orleans Bowl takes the champion automatically now:

https://sunbeltsports.org/news/2019/6/5/x.aspx

Quote:The winner of the Sun Belt Football Championship Game, if not selected for inclusion in the College Football Playoff, will automatically be placed in the R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl.

(07-23-2019 07:49 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I think instead of G5 conferences retaining their top bowl and their lower ones entering the bowl pool, it should be the other way around.

Picture this:

We pick 4 “prestigious” G5 bowls, say, the NOLA Bowl, the Boca Bowl, the New Mexico Bowl, and the Gasparilla Bowl

There are 5 G5 champions. One will always go to the NY6 Access bowl, the other 4 are matched up in two of the 4 prestigious G5 bowls.

There are 5 G5 champion runner-ups. The other two prestigious G5 bowls can select which 4 of that group they want to invite (this could be based on record or proximity and is entirely up to those bowls). The 5th conference runner-up will just go to one of the standard bowl tie-ins of their conference.

All the other bowl eligible G5 teams will fill the remaining slots for their conference.

The 4 prestigious G5 bowls will rotate between being champ bowls and runner up bowls on a yearly basis.

Smart idea.

(07-23-2019 01:46 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  The average fan from conferences outside of the AAC and the Sun Belt won't pay attention to the fact that it's the 5th AAC team vs the Sun Belt champ. They're just going to see AAC vs Sun Belt matchup and see the Sun Belt team win. That goes a long way for perception of the conference on a national level.

The average fan isn't worth caring about, but even he/she will be aware that it is a crappy matchup when they see SunBelt team 11-2 vs. AAC Team 6-6. It looks crappy for the conference. I get that it might not be feasible these days (although it's a shame) to match up champ against champ but going too far down the ladder makes for bad match ups.

Per Terry Mohajir, the 2020-2025 Sunbelt bowl slate will consist of 5 bowls. The Sunbelt will be tied directly to NOLA every year. They will also have 3 flexible slots tied to the 16 game ESPN Events Bowl Pool. He didnt say who the other bowl slot would be---Im assuming Mobile---but I guess it could be the Indy Bowl. Shout out to Kara Richey for asking about bowls today in her regular segment with ArkySt AD Terry Mohajir. They talk bowls around the 13:30 mark in the interview below.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/asta...mohajir-48

(07-24-2019 05:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Per Terry Mohajir, the 2020-2025 Sunbelt bowl slate will consist of 5 bowls. The Sunbelt will be tied directly to NOLA every year. They will also have 3 flexible slots tied to the 16 game ESPN Events Bowl Pool. He didnt say who the other bowl slot would be---Im assuming Mobile---but I guess it could be the Indy Bowl. Shout out to Kara Richey for asking about bowls today in her regular segment with ArkySt AD Terry Mohajir. They talk bowls around the 13:30 mark in the interview below.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/asta...mohajir-48

That's not really what he said. He said they would have ESPN bowls, but did not say they would be tied to all 16 ESPN bowls. More than likely, they will get 3 selections from 6 or 7 bowls, if going by what other conferences have done.

Can you imagine Appalachian state vs East Carolina in Myrtle Beach? 20,000 seats won’t be enough

Four G5 conference champions don't make the access bowl each year. We should find a way to pit those four champions against one another in bowl games every year. There would actually be interest from someone other than the fans of the participating teams in those two bowl games. I know that I'd watch them both.

(07-24-2019 10:18 PM)Kyle-from-LaGrange Wrote:  Can you imagine Appalachian state vs East Carolina in Myrtle Beach? 20,000 seats won’t be enough

As long as you guys raise your game a little, that would be an awesome matchup!

(07-24-2019 09:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 05:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Per Terry Mohajir, the 2020-2025 Sunbelt bowl slate will consist of 5 bowls. The Sunbelt will be tied directly to NOLA every year. They will also have 3 flexible slots tied to the 16 game ESPN Events Bowl Pool. He didnt say who the other bowl slot would be---Im assuming Mobile---but I guess it could be the Indy Bowl. Shout out to Kara Richey for asking about bowls today in her regular segment with ArkySt AD Terry Mohajir. They talk bowls around the 13:30 mark in the interview below.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/asta...mohajir-48

That's not really what he said. He said they would have ESPN bowls, but did not say they would be tied to all 16 ESPN bowls. More than likely, they will get 3 selections from 6 or 7 bowls, if going by what other conferences have done.

My understanding is ESPN Events is telling leagues sign this and we will guarantee you X appearances per year in an ESPN Events bowl but we won't lock in which.

(07-25-2019 09:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 09:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 05:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Per Terry Mohajir, the 2020-2025 Sunbelt bowl slate will consist of 5 bowls. The Sunbelt will be tied directly to NOLA every year. They will also have 3 flexible slots tied to the 16 game ESPN Events Bowl Pool. He didnt say who the other bowl slot would be---Im assuming Mobile---but I guess it could be the Indy Bowl. Shout out to Kara Richey for asking about bowls today in her regular segment with ArkySt AD Terry Mohajir. They talk bowls around the 13:30 mark in the interview below.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/asta...mohajir-48

That's not really what he said. He said they would have ESPN bowls, but did not say they would be tied to all 16 ESPN bowls. More than likely, they will get 3 selections from 6 or 7 bowls, if going by what other conferences have done.

My understanding is ESPN Events is telling leagues sign this and we will guarantee you X appearances per year in an ESPN Events bowl but we won't lock in which.

That certainly seems to likely to be the case---but who knows? The MW deal, for example, doesnt seem to lock in any bowl--though they apparently have an "understanding" that ESPN will try to get them a Texas location when it makes sense. My guess is thats generally going to mean Air Force in the Armed Forces Bowl (nothing new there). The AAC deal seems more limited than the MW deal. The AAC pool agreement says the AAC will fill 4 slots in a series of specifically named bowls. It will be interesting to see if the Sunbelt and CUSA's bowl pool agreements are wide open or are limited to group of specifically named bowls.

(07-25-2019 12:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-25-2019 09:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 09:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 05:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Per Terry Mohajir, the 2020-2025 Sunbelt bowl slate will consist of 5 bowls. The Sunbelt will be tied directly to NOLA every year. They will also have 3 flexible slots tied to the 16 game ESPN Events Bowl Pool. He didnt say who the other bowl slot would be---Im assuming Mobile---but I guess it could be the Indy Bowl. Shout out to Kara Richey for asking about bowls today in her regular segment with ArkySt AD Terry Mohajir. They talk bowls around the 13:30 mark in the interview below.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/asta...mohajir-48

That's not really what he said. He said they would have ESPN bowls, but did not say they would be tied to all 16 ESPN bowls. More than likely, they will get 3 selections from 6 or 7 bowls, if going by what other conferences have done.

My understanding is ESPN Events is telling leagues sign this and we will guarantee you X appearances per year in an ESPN Events bowl but we won't lock in which.

That certainly seems to likely to be the case---but who knows? The MW deal, for example, doesnt seem to lock in any bowl--though they apparently have an "understanding" that ESPN will try to get them a Texas location when it makes sense. My guess is thats generally going to mean Air Force in the Armed Forces Bowl (nothing new there). The AAC deal seems more limited than the MW deal. The AAC pool agreement says the AAC will fill 4 slots in a series of specifically named bowls. It will be interesting to see if the Sunbelt and CUSA's bowl pool agreements are wide open or are limited to group of specifically named bowls.

Conference Usa and Sun Belt Bowl pool will be extremely similar or exactly the same as the MACs.

MAC gets 2 a year to these 7. AAC will put 4 teams in ESPN Bowl pool(with 3 better Bowls as priority vs P5), 1 guaranteed in one of the 5 (AAC) listed below.

14 spots total. MAC+MWC + AAC = 4 most years,
Max of 8 if AAC misses out on Birmingham, Gasparilla, and First Responder all in same season.
MWC is only New Mexico.

So CUSA and Sun Belt have to be a minimum of 6 and up to 10 to fill.

Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl(AAC)
Camellia Bowl
Cure Bowl(AAC)
Frisco Bowl(AAC)(Might be MWC Texas Bowl)
Mobile Alabama Bowl
Myrtle Beach Bow(AAC)
New Mexico Bowl(AAC)(MWC tied to annually)

The only question is if some are anchored every year like #1 to NOLA and if they get an anchor for #2 in the Independence Bowl. So 3 locks each into the pool.

(07-25-2019 07:11 PM)spenser Wrote:  

(07-25-2019 12:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-25-2019 09:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 09:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 05:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Per Terry Mohajir, the 2020-2025 Sunbelt bowl slate will consist of 5 bowls. The Sunbelt will be tied directly to NOLA every year. They will also have 3 flexible slots tied to the 16 game ESPN Events Bowl Pool. He didnt say who the other bowl slot would be---Im assuming Mobile---but I guess it could be the Indy Bowl. Shout out to Kara Richey for asking about bowls today in her regular segment with ArkySt AD Terry Mohajir. They talk bowls around the 13:30 mark in the interview below.

https://soundcloud.com/953theticket/asta...mohajir-48

That's not really what he said. He said they would have ESPN bowls, but did not say they would be tied to all 16 ESPN bowls. More than likely, they will get 3 selections from 6 or 7 bowls, if going by what other conferences have done.

My understanding is ESPN Events is telling leagues sign this and we will guarantee you X appearances per year in an ESPN Events bowl but we won't lock in which.

That certainly seems to likely to be the case---but who knows? The MW deal, for example, doesnt seem to lock in any bowl--though they apparently have an "understanding" that ESPN will try to get them a Texas location when it makes sense. My guess is thats generally going to mean Air Force in the Armed Forces Bowl (nothing new there). The AAC deal seems more limited than the MW deal. The AAC pool agreement says the AAC will fill 4 slots in a series of specifically named bowls. It will be interesting to see if the Sunbelt and CUSA's bowl pool agreements are wide open or are limited to group of specifically named bowls.

Conference Usa and Sun Belt Bowl pool will be extremely similar or exactly the same as the MACs.

MAC gets 2 a year to these 7. AAC will put 4 teams in ESPN Bowl pool(with 3 better Bowls as priority vs P5), 1 guaranteed in one of the 5 (AAC) listed below.

14 spots total. MAC+MWC + AAC = 4 most years,
Max of 8 if AAC misses out on Birmingham, Gasparilla, and First Responder all in same season.
MWC is only New Mexico.

So CUSA and Sun Belt have to be a minimum of 6 and up to 10 to fill.

Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl(AAC)
Camellia Bowl
Cure Bowl(AAC)
Frisco Bowl(AAC)(Might be MWC Texas Bowl)
Mobile Alabama Bowl
Myrtle Beach Bow(AAC)
New Mexico Bowl(AAC)(MWC tied to annually)

The only question is if some are anchored every year like #1 to NOLA and if they get an anchor for #2 in the Independence Bowl. So 3 locks each into the pool.

CUSA will probably be in the Birmingham and Gaparilla pool. It is not the AAC will not be in them but there is a good chance that ACC and SEC may not always fill them. In addition, I think the ACC vs SEC will be matched in one of the two bowls every time when available.

(07-25-2019 05:47 AM)AppinSC Wrote:  

(07-24-2019 10:18 PM)Kyle-from-LaGrange Wrote:  Can you imagine Appalachian state vs East Carolina in Myrtle Beach? 20,000 seats won’t be enough

As long as you guys raise your game a little, that would be an awesome matchup!

That would be a great regional game indeed! I plan on getting a pair of tickets when the MB Bowl debuts next year. It'll be cool welcoming the different teams and their fans to the area for future seasons on our campus...