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RE: Is the P6 Narrative starting to produce results in national perception of The AAC
(07-19-2019 04:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 02:30 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  Don’t think you need to do anything except let things play out until 2025. After that date is when you’ll know a lot more. You’re not getting a GOR.

UCF, USF, Houston, Cincy, Temple, and Memphis are all hoping for the Big 12 come 2025 as are several MWC teams and BYU.

Navy isn’t going anywhere except back to Indy if the Big 12 does poach I can tell you that. You don’t have to worry about us.

Texas and Oklahoma have zero incentive to expand the Big XII, and make no mistake that decision runs through Austin and Norman. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

Well obviously. Those schools are hoping to be backfill if UT/OU leave. That’s well documented after the previous non expansion.

I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective measure the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.
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RE: Is the P6 Narrative starting to produce results in national perception of The AAC
(07-19-2019 04:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 02:30 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  Don’t think you need to do anything except let things play out until 2025. After that date is when you’ll know a lot more. You’re not getting a GOR.

UCF, USF, Houston, Cincy, Temple, and Memphis are all hoping for the Big 12 come 2025 as are several MWC teams and BYU.

Navy isn’t going anywhere except back to Indy if the Big 12 does poach I can tell you that. You don’t have to worry about us.

Texas and Oklahoma have zero incentive to expand the Big XII, and make no mistake that decision runs through Austin and Norman. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

Well obviously. Those schools are hoping to be backfill if UT/OU leave. That’s well documented after the previous non expansion.

I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.
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RE: Is the P6 Narrative starting to produce results in national perception of The AAC
(07-19-2019 04:59 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 04:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 04:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 03:48 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 03:40 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Texas and Oklahoma have zero incentive to expand the Big XII, and make no mistake that decision runs through Austin and Norman. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

Well obviously. Those schools are hoping to be backfill if UT/OU leave. That’s well documented after the previous non expansion.

I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

It’d be a hell of an upgrade. Add BYU to that mix plus the Top 6 of the AAC and you have a power level conference even if not in Name. Silly to turn that down.
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RE: Is the P6 Narrative starting to produce results in national perception of The AAC
(07-19-2019 04:59 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 04:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 03:48 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 03:40 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Texas and Oklahoma have zero incentive to expand the Big XII, and make no mistake that decision runs through Austin and Norman. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

Well obviously. Those schools are hoping to be backfill if UT/OU leave. That’s well documented after the previous non expansion.

I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

If TU and OK leave they will not be the only ones to do so (Look at the history... SWC, WAC, [i]BIG EAST[i]).

I won't take your dreams from you, but don't be shocked if the only way you will ever share a conference with WV again is in the AAC
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RE: Is the P6 Narrative starting to produce results in national perception of The AAC
(07-19-2019 02:30 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  Don’t think you need to do anything except let things play out until 2025. After that date is when you’ll know a lot more. You’re not getting a GOR.

UCF, USF, Houston, Cincy, Temple, and Memphis are all hoping for the Big 12 come 2025 as are several MWC teams and BYU.

Navy isn’t going anywhere except back to Indy if the Big 12 does poach I can tell you that. You don’t have to worry about us.

No matter what happens in 2025 I believe if there is ever a split the current AAC and MWC schools will be included in the top level of FBS. Also Army and BYU. They are going to need 80 teams or so to make it work. They will never leave Navy and Army out of the top level just out of political pressure if nothing else.

As long as the AAC has access to the NY6 and the highest level of FBS we have a chance. If the playoff goes to 8 with a more guaranteed spot for our champion now then you are really talking.
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(07-19-2019 10:54 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think you can throw Navy in the mix with those other 4. Sure they may never win the conference but they are a recognized name and play a good yearly OOC schedule against other recognized names and P6 programs.

Temple and Memphis are the next tier down, but would move up to tier 1 with a breakout year if they were to win the conference and have a good showing in a NY6 bowl.

It would seem like it would be in the best interest of the Big12 to form some kind of scheduling alliance with the AAC. They may have to raid the AAC in 5 years if a few key members leave and perception wise it would be better to add P6 teams than G5 teams. Perhaps the AAC can beat them to the punch if they can convince WVU to come back.

Temple and Memphis the next tier down below Navy and "those other 4?" The "4" mentioned in the article are UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and Memphis. And Memphis has won the last 2 West titles, and has beaten Houston 3 in a row.
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(07-19-2019 05:15 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 10:54 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think you can throw Navy in the mix with those other 4. Sure they may never win the conference but they are a recognized name and play a good yearly OOC schedule against other recognized names and P6 programs.

Temple and Memphis are the next tier down, but would move up to tier 1 with a breakout year if they were to win the conference and have a good showing in a NY6 bowl.

It would seem like it would be in the best interest of the Big12 to form some kind of scheduling alliance with the AAC. They may have to raid the AAC in 5 years if a few key members leave and perception wise it would be better to add P6 teams than G5 teams. Perhaps the AAC can beat them to the punch if they can convince WVU to come back.

Temple and Memphis the next tier down below Navy and "those other 4?" The "4" mentioned in the article are UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and Memphis. And Memphis has won the last 2 West titles, and has beaten Houston 3 in a row.

Yeah. That's a pretty goofy take.
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(07-19-2019 04:52 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 04:19 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Memphis and Temple people: I’ll try to clarify my point about lumping you into a tier 2 status by saying which schools would a Cartel 5 be most interested in? Navy, UC, UH, USF and UCF. Why? They were once part of the BCS Conference and/or accumulated a record of good OOC wins.

I realize Temple has a good recent win over PSU (and an ugly loss vs Wake). Just keep winning or making a good showing in those type of games, Temple also has a bias working against it as a urban school in the NE and that bias is that the people up there don’t care about college football.

Memphis has a basketball school tag and I could be wrong, but very few memorable OOC wins in recent years. Your brand needs some work, but it’s heading in a good direction.

What you need to improve your brand is to basically go on a mini-run like UCF and UH through the AAC and pick up a few splash victories on the way. Or just be consistently good for a long time with several good wins peppered in.

You guys are good G5 teams, but need a little more work to be perceived as P6 material.

Temple was in a BCS conference before.

And kicked out because they were playing at a G5 level.

Wrong, Temple rejoined the BIG EAST while it was still a BCS Conference, with new commitment to revenue sports.

As did Memphis. 2013 was a BCS conference.
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(07-19-2019 04:59 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 04:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 03:40 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Texas and Oklahoma have zero incentive to expand the Big XII, and make no mistake that decision runs through Austin and Norman. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

Well obviously. Those schools are hoping to be backfill if UT/OU leave. That’s well documented after the previous non expansion.

I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

No way these ^^^ leftovers are an upgrade... No way.

Only reason those leftovers were even mentioned at all was b/c of UT and OU.

On a level $$$ playing field I'll take AAC current members over any Big12 leftovers.
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(07-19-2019 05:32 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 05:15 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 10:54 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think you can throw Navy in the mix with those other 4. Sure they may never win the conference but they are a recognized name and play a good yearly OOC schedule against other recognized names and P6 programs.

Temple and Memphis are the next tier down, but would move up to tier 1 with a breakout year if they were to win the conference and have a good showing in a NY6 bowl.

It would seem like it would be in the best interest of the Big12 to form some kind of scheduling alliance with the AAC. They may have to raid the AAC in 5 years if a few key members leave and perception wise it would be better to add P6 teams than G5 teams. Perhaps the AAC can beat them to the punch if they can convince WVU to come back.

Temple and Memphis the next tier down below Navy and "those other 4?" The "4" mentioned in the article are UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and Memphis. And Memphis has won the last 2 West titles, and has beaten Houston 3 in a row.

Yeah. That's a pretty goofy take.

I just noticed the article does mention USF instead of Memphis, but the point remains the same.
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(07-19-2019 06:17 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 04:59 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 04:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 04:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 03:48 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  Well obviously. Those schools are hoping to be backfill if UT/OU leave. That’s well documented after the previous non expansion.

I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

No way these ^^^ leftovers are an upgrade... No way.

Only reason those leftovers were even mentioned at all was b/c of UT and OU.

On a level $$$ playing field I'll take AAC current members over any Big12 leftovers.


I also wouldn't consider those schools an upgrade over the AAC schools. Since the SWC broke up Houston has sought to be in an eastern oriented conference. That discarded group of BigXII schools might also prefer an eastern oriented conference. If everything ends in 2025 (grants of rights, bowl contracts, CFP) then the most marketable grouping might be a new conference of:

WVU,
KSU,
TCU,
UCF,
USF,
UC,
TEMPLE,
MEMPHIS,
UH

and 1-3 of the other AAC/BigXII leftovers.
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(07-19-2019 07:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 05:15 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 10:54 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think you can throw Navy in the mix with those other 4. Sure they may never win the conference but they are a recognized name and play a good yearly OOC schedule against other recognized names and P6 programs.

Temple and Memphis are the next tier down, but would move up to tier 1 with a breakout year if they were to win the conference and have a good showing in a NY6 bowl.

It would seem like it would be in the best interest of the Big12 to form some kind of scheduling alliance with the AAC. They may have to raid the AAC in 5 years if a few key members leave and perception wise it would be better to add P6 teams than G5 teams. Perhaps the AAC can beat them to the punch if they can convince WVU to come back.

Temple and Memphis the next tier down below Navy and "those other 4?" The "4" mentioned in the article are UCF, Houston, Cincinnati and Memphis. And Memphis has won the last 2 West titles, and has beaten Houston 3 in a row.

Yeah. That's a pretty goofy take.

I just noticed the article does mention USF instead of Memphis, but the point remains the same.

And what is our all-time record against Cincinnati? Oh yeah.... 21-13
Since we've been back in the same conference? Oh yeah.... 3-1
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(07-19-2019 08:22 PM)TeleCoog Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 06:17 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 04:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

No way these ^^^ leftovers are an upgrade... No way.

Only reason those leftovers were even mentioned at all was b/c of UT and OU.

On a level $$$ playing field I'll take AAC current members over any Big12 leftovers.


I also wouldn't consider those schools an upgrade over the AAC schools. Since the SWC broke up Houston has sought to be in an eastern oriented conference. That discarded group of BigXII schools might also prefer an eastern oriented conference. If everything ends in 2025 (grants of rights, bowl contracts, CFP) then the most marketable grouping might be a new conference of:

WVU,
KSU,
TCU,

UCF,
USF,
UC,
TEMPLE,
MEMPHIS,
UH

and 1-3 of the other AAC/BigXII leftovers.

You are kidding right? What is it about the AMERICAN Athletic Conference that you hate so much? Northern teams? Eastern teams? Private Universities?

Those top 3 teams may not be there... It is convenient for people looking for a way out to think that only TU and OK are going to leave so that you can get an invite to the Big XII.

Don't forget that as soon ass the ACC went to 14 so did the Big 10, SEC, and then the Big XII and pack 12 tried to get to 14 as well but couldn't.

There may not be any leftovers... 2 to the SEC, 2 to the Big 10, 2 to the ACC, and 4 to the PAC... That's 10.
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(07-19-2019 04:19 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Memphis and Temple people: I’ll try to clarify my point about lumping you into a tier 2 status by saying which schools would a Cartel 5 be most interested in? Navy, UC, UH, USF and UCF. Why? They were once part of the BCS Conference and/or accumulated a record of good OOC wins.

I realize Temple has a good recent win over PSU (and an ugly loss vs Wake). Just keep winning or making a good showing in those type of games, Temple also has a bias working against it as a urban school in the NE and that bias is that the people up there don’t care about college football.

Memphis has a basketball school tag and I could be wrong, but very few memorable OOC wins in recent years. Your brand needs some work, but it’s heading in a good direction.

What you need to improve your brand is to basically go on a mini-run like UCF and UH through the AAC and pick up a few splash victories on the way. Or just be consistently good for a long time with several good wins peppered in.

You guys are good G5 teams, but need a little more work to be perceived as P6 material.

We are already in the P6. But thanks for the pat on the back.
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(07-19-2019 08:22 PM)TeleCoog Wrote:  
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(07-19-2019 04:09 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I've said it a hundreds of times... What's the point Houston joining the Big12 if OU and UT aren't no longer there... Only reason I want back with UT is so that we can revive our heated games and make their fans feel like 5h1+ after Houston leaves Austin with the W.

Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

No way these ^^^ leftovers are an upgrade... No way.

Only reason those leftovers were even mentioned at all was b/c of UT and OU.

On a level $$$ playing field I'll take AAC current members over any Big12 leftovers.


I also wouldn't consider those schools an upgrade over the AAC schools. Since the SWC broke up Houston has sought to be in an eastern oriented conference. That discarded group of BigXII schools might also prefer an eastern oriented conference. If everything ends in 2025 (grants of rights, bowl contracts, CFP) then the most marketable grouping might be a new conference of:

WVU,
KSU,
TCU,
UCF,
USF,
UC,
TEMPLE,
MEMPHIS,
UH

and 1-3 of the other AAC/BigXII leftovers.

Very surprised a Big 12 like.....

West: TCU, Baylor, KState, ISU, BYU, UH

East: WVU, UCF, USF, Temple, Cincy, Memphis

...Wouldn’t be preferable to the current AAC for Houston.
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Tulane Vs Auburn is going to be interesting ...
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(07-19-2019 04:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yes. And it remains a silly thing to say. By most any objective manner the Big12 minus UT and OK would still be a better, higher paying, more prestigious, better perceived, more geographically coherent conference than the AAC is for schools like Houston, Memphis. SMU, Cinci, Tulane, and Tulsa. People are different. So I get that you may prefer the AAC over s rebuilt Big12—but I assure you the Houston administration and the vast majority of UH fans would not share your preference.

If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

No way these ^^^ leftovers are an upgrade... No way.

Only reason those leftovers were even mentioned at all was b/c of UT and OU.

On a level $$$ playing field I'll take AAC current members over any Big12 leftovers.


I also wouldn't consider those schools an upgrade over the AAC schools. Since the SWC broke up Houston has sought to be in an eastern oriented conference. That discarded group of BigXII schools might also prefer an eastern oriented conference. If everything ends in 2025 (grants of rights, bowl contracts, CFP) then the most marketable grouping might be a new conference of:

WVU,
KSU,
TCU,
UCF,
USF,
UC,
TEMPLE,
MEMPHIS,
UH

and 1-3 of the other AAC/BigXII leftovers.

Very surprised a Big 12 like.....

West: TCU, Baylor, KState, ISU, BYU, UH

East: WVU, UCF, USF, Temple, Cincy, Memphis

...Wouldn’t be preferable to the current AAC for Houston.


That combo under the BigXII banner probably would be
preferable for Houston, having both better regional match-ups, and an eastern orientation too.
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RE: Is the P6 Narrative starting to produce results in national perception of The AAC
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(07-19-2019 10:54 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think you can throw Navy in the mix with those other 4. Sure they may never win the conference but they are a recognized name and play a good yearly OOC schedule against other recognized names and P6 programs.

Temple and Memphis are the next tier down, but would move up to tier 1 with a breakout year if they were to win the conference and have a good showing in a NY6 bowl.

It would seem like it would be in the best interest of the Big12 to form some kind of scheduling alliance with the AAC. They may have to raid the AAC in 5 years if a few key members leave and perception wise it would be better to add P6 teams than G5 teams. Perhaps the AAC can beat them to the punch if they can convince WVU to come back.
Temple has won an American Conference Championship. Over the life of the American we are the most consistent winning program.

It never ceases to amaze me how little respect Temple gets.
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(07-20-2019 02:07 PM)TeleCoog Wrote:  
(07-20-2019 08:03 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 08:22 PM)TeleCoog Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 06:17 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 04:59 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  If the only teams left are kansas state, baylor, iow state, tcu, and wvu it’s still an upgrade.

No way these ^^^ leftovers are an upgrade... No way.

Only reason those leftovers were even mentioned at all was b/c of UT and OU.

On a level $$$ playing field I'll take AAC current members over any Big12 leftovers.


I also wouldn't consider those schools an upgrade over the AAC schools. Since the SWC broke up Houston has sought to be in an eastern oriented conference. That discarded group of BigXII schools might also prefer an eastern oriented conference. If everything ends in 2025 (grants of rights, bowl contracts, CFP) then the most marketable grouping might be a new conference of:

WVU,
KSU,
TCU,
UCF,
USF,
UC,
TEMPLE,
MEMPHIS,
UH

and 1-3 of the other AAC/BigXII leftovers.

Very surprised a Big 12 like.....

West: TCU, Baylor, KState, ISU, BYU, UH

East: WVU, UCF, USF, Temple, Cincy, Memphis

...Wouldn’t be preferable to the current AAC for Houston.


That combo under the BigXII banner probably would be
preferable for Houston, having both better regional match-ups, and an eastern orientation too.

Kick out Houston, they don't like the American, C-USA is a better fit... 04-cheers
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RE: Is the P6 Narrative starting to produce results in national perception of The AAC
(07-19-2019 09:42 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 08:22 PM)TeleCoog Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 06:17 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(07-19-2019 04:59 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  [quote='Attackcoog' pid='16202554' dateline='1563573364']


There may not be any leftovers... 2 to the SEC, 2 to the Big 10, 2 to the ACC, and 4 to the PAC... That's 10.


I doubt anyone invites Baylor, and kind of doubt TCU.
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