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RE: New Group of 5 Podcast “The G5 Beat”
(08-20-2019 10:22 AM)Max Power Wrote:  I don't mean to be a d!ck but if they didn't know how to pronounce the name of NIU's QB that kind of makes you wonder if they even saw a minute of MAC football at all. It just seemed like some guys got a Phil Steele magazine and were discussing it. That said it's a great concept and any more coverage/discussion of MAC/G5 is welcome.

Thanks for giving us a listen! Of course we watch a lot of MAC football. Being a UAB fan of course I watched the Boca Raton Bowl game where we played NIU...names get mispronounced and this probably won’t be the last time because it happens. You’re actually the first person to let us know we mispronounced his name and the episode has been out for almost a month now. Thanks for letting us know.
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No worries, good luck!
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(08-21-2019 07:41 AM)Max Power Wrote:  No worries, good luck!

Thanks again for listening. We’re always open to feedback.
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RE: New Group of 5 Podcast “The G5 Beat”
Week One Preview Episode now available https://soundcloud.com/g5beat/episode-7-week-1-preview
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Don't see why getting all their knowledge from Phil Steele's magazine is necessarily a bad thing. Any G5 coverage is good G5 coverage.

Listened for the first time since the MAC preview, and it's ballsy to pick Toledo over Kentucky! Most on the MAC Pick Em thread don't see it happening. Nice to pick Eastern Michigan over CC tho!
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(08-26-2019 05:01 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Don't see why getting all their knowledge from Phil Steele's magazine is necessarily a bad thing. Any G5 coverage is good G5 coverage.

Listened for the first time since the MAC preview, and it's ballsy to pick Toledo over Kentucky! Most on the MAC Pick Em thread don't see it happening. Nice to pick Eastern Michigan over CC tho!

Thanks so much for listening to us! #FlytheFlag
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(08-27-2019 06:47 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  
(08-26-2019 05:01 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Don't see why getting all their knowledge from Phil Steele's magazine is necessarily a bad thing. Any G5 coverage is good G5 coverage.

Listened for the first time since the MAC preview, and it's ballsy to pick Toledo over Kentucky! Most on the MAC Pick Em thread don't see it happening. Nice to pick Eastern Michigan over CC tho!

Thanks so much for listening to us! #FlytheFlag
Keep up the good work !!04-cheers
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(08-27-2019 07:22 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(08-27-2019 06:47 AM)jcduncan13 Wrote:  
(08-26-2019 05:01 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Don't see why getting all their knowledge from Phil Steele's magazine is necessarily a bad thing. Any G5 coverage is good G5 coverage.

Listened for the first time since the MAC preview, and it's ballsy to pick Toledo over Kentucky! Most on the MAC Pick Em thread don't see it happening. Nice to pick Eastern Michigan over CC tho!

Thanks so much for listening to us! #FlytheFlag
Keep up the good work !!04-cheers

(08-27-2019 09:58 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  04-clap2

Thanks guys!
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Week 2 Preview is now available: https://soundcloud.com/g5beat/episode-8-week-2
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The G5 this year looks like the MWC and then everyone else. Great first week for them. Wins over Arizona, Purdue, Fla. St, and Missouri all in one week. The other four G5 conferences combined may not beat that all season.
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Too early to tell anything.
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(09-02-2019 08:40 AM)axeme Wrote:  The G5 this year looks like the MWC and then everyone else. Great first week for them. Wins over Arizona, Purdue, Fla. St, and Missouri all in one week. The other four G5 conferences combined may not beat that all season.

Mizzou AT Wyoming?
Arizona AT Hawaii?
Give us ******* home games then. Every P5 game we play this year is away.
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Hopefully we see more upsets this year and from the other conferences. Fingers crossed.
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(09-02-2019 10:33 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 08:40 AM)axeme Wrote:  The G5 this year looks like the MWC and then everyone else. Great first week for them. Wins over Arizona, Purdue, Fla. St, and Missouri all in one week. The other four G5 conferences combined may not beat that all season.

Mizzou AT Wyoming?
Arizona AT Hawaii?
Give us ******* home games then. Every P5 game we play this year is away.

It's a lot easier to get power teams to visit you when you're in fun and exotic locations or are near recruiting hotbeds. IIRC Wyoming's old coach was a Mizzou assistant under Pinkel so I imagine that was set up when he was still there.
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Most of the MAC teams expected to be good this year were playing the FCS this past weekend.

I doubt teams like San Jose St or New Mexico would've fared much better vs #20 Iowa or Arizona St.
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OFF-TOPIC BASED ON THE EPISODE WITH THE MAC PREVIEW:

I don't think a 4-team playoff can last for very long, but I could see it going on for too long.

I think if it's not pushed for too long, I could see it jumping to 6. Here's my own Preferred view on a 6-team playoff:
- Conference Champs or Independents in the Top 10, ordered by rank amongst them
- The rest, by ranking
- Independents must be ranked 2 places above a Conference Champ to be chosen before them, if undefeated; Otherwise, Be in the Top 4 or be 4 places ahead of them.
o Most often, you'd see 5 P5 Champs + Notre Dame or highly-ranked SEC team
o Once in a while you may see a #9-10 Boise/Houston/UCF make it. But an undefeated Notre Dame in those situations would keep them out.

For an 8-team playoff, my own Preferred view would be:
- Any Conference Champ Ranked within the Top 16. If more than 8, it cuts off at the highest ranked one.
- Independents must be in the Top 8, or if undefeated, within the Top 12 -- but an undefeated Conf Champ will be chosen before them if that's the case
o An undefeated BYU @ #10 Would be chosen over 1L Northern Illinois MAC Champs @ #15 with a tough schedule
o An undefeated BYU @ #10 would Not be chosen over undefeated Marshall CUSA Champs @ #12
o Most likely you'd see 5 P5 Champs + 1 G5 Champ + Notre Dame + Another G5 Champ or SEC Power Team
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I listened to the Podcast ... good in-depth talk about it, liked it.

I wouldn't put WMU as #1 though, even though I'm all-WMU. :)

Granted, with NIU up-in-the-air with a New HC and not exactly dominating the MAC lately, and EMU losing some D players -- WMU has a chance, but that's about it. They play on the road @NIU, @Toledo, @EMU, and @Ohio. Given that one can't assume WMU's D is going to be WAY better, and that Lester hasn't proven himself yet as a Conf Winner type -- by default, I would assume among those key 4 games:

5%: 4-0
15%: 3-1
50%: 2-2
25%: 1-3
5%: 0-4

But, we'll obviously have a better look after non-conf season.
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(09-02-2019 11:31 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  I listened to the Podcast ... good in-depth talk about it, liked it.

I wouldn't put WMU as #1 though, even though I'm all-WMU. :)

Granted, with NIU up-in-the-air with a New HC and not exactly dominating the MAC lately, and EMU losing some D players -- WMU has a chance, but that's about it. They play on the road @NIU, @Toledo, @EMU, and @Ohio. Given that one can't assume WMU's D is going to be WAY better, and that Lester hasn't proven himself yet as a Conf Winner type -- by default, I would assume among those key 4 games:

5%: 4-0
15%: 3-1
50%: 2-2
25%: 1-3
5%: 0-4

But, we'll obviously have a better look after non-conf season.

No way , no how the MAC is in the G5 rep discussion this year. WMU, Toledo, Ohio, and NIU probably all in the same ballpark with probably slight edge to Ohio. None of those teams are going to stack up for a G5 rep resume this year though.
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(09-02-2019 05:00 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 10:33 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-02-2019 08:40 AM)axeme Wrote:  The G5 this year looks like the MWC and then everyone else. Great first week for them. Wins over Arizona, Purdue, Fla. St, and Missouri all in one week. The other four G5 conferences combined may not beat that all season.

Mizzou AT Wyoming?
Arizona AT Hawaii?
Give us ******* home games then. Every P5 game we play this year is away.

It's a lot easier to get power teams to visit you when you're in fun and exotic locations or are near recruiting hotbeds. IIRC Wyoming's old coach was a Mizzou assistant under Pinkel so I imagine that was set up when he was still there.

obviously, you've never been to Reno, so, I'm thinking the connections were key.

this was not quite MAC Sept 20, 2003 when the league took out #6 Kansas St, #9 Pitt and #21 Alabama (while also destroying then MWC power Colorado St and taking #1 Ohio St to the wire in the Shoe and only 1 of those games was a MAC home game), but it was a magical memorable day for the WAC. nailbiter home wins over Arizona, Purdue, Missouri and the road win at FSU. None were ranked and FSU isn't what they used to be, but still a great day. And as far as depth Fresno took USC to the final 2 minutes in the coliseum, Utah St lost by 7 at Wake Forest and Colo St played colorado tough. So, the MWC did take losses and 3 of the 4 wins were at home, but a great start 4-3 vs P5.

Georgia St really played a great game at Tennessee. That was fun to watch their execution and focus. Cincy took out a suprisingly weak UCLA team at home, but that wasn't really an upset. Memphis beat a down Ole Miss team at home by 5. Clearly, P5 teams that go on the road vs solid G5 programs are going to be challenged and take losses. If the NCAA just mandated each P5 play 1 such game a year college football would be more interesting and G5 fan bases would be stronger.

As for the playoff, I am of the opinion it is just a money making ploy that does nothing for the game. It sucks tons of attention into the rankings and playoff and shifts focus away from conference title races and good G5 teams. Everything comes down to 4 spots in the playoff and 1 G5 big bowl spot. So, other than 5 teams everyone's season is kinda overshadowed and second rate. So what if they add 2 more playoff teams or whatever. It is still a mistake (other than providing the NCAA execs and big money programs with more cash). MAC teams don't belong with Alabama and Clemson. Sorry, give our top team a ranked P5 bowk opponent each year. Give our 2nd team and 3rd best teams a good G5 or average P5 bowl opponent and be done with it.

p.s. watching a lot of college football this week I was reminded that the 1 consistent discrepancy in fairness is the calling of pass interference. P5 team db's are allowed to be all over receivers. Watch the Auburn-Oregon replay (great game) if those teams had MAC jerseys on there would have been a good dozen PI calls. It's especially bad in G5-P5 crossover games. I saw several marginal to terrible calls impact close games with G5 defenders doing things P5 defenders get away with all the time.
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