The Sun Belt is in good shape. USA, ULM and TxSt have made good coaching hires in FB. CCU and USA are going to have on campus Bowl games that will benefit our conference.

If y'all pansies would just add wrestling we'd be right at home and I'd have zero desire to change anything.

(07-04-2019 08:13 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  The bash ULM, who is a charter member of SBC football, is back. Happy, happy , joy , joy. Such BS. We have been good members and stay relatively competitive, with huge wins over major P5 programs. ULL why don’t you tell us all about all your big P5 wins that look so good for the conference? Forever it was you didn’t want us in the same conference because we shared a name. We literally give you your precious name and that still isn’t good enough. You’d really rather go to Las Cruces, NM than have us that are right in the middle of the West Division?

The CUSA board has yet another realignment thread that I read through last night because I was bored, they treat us way worse over there than anybody does on this board.

(07-03-2019 11:48 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(07-02-2019 02:29 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Hypothetical question for this Tuesday...suppose there was on the table a proposal for the Sun Belt and CUSA to trade members with each other. The idea here is that you can change the membership in both conferences without running into problems with any conference or NCAA rules and the exit fees for both schools could be cancelled out so no one has to pay anything.

What two members would most likely get the required majority votes in both conferences for admission and accept invites to make the trade happen? Also, could a series of these trades a viable model to reorganize both leagues?

I'd propose we trade Texas State for Middle Tennessee. Middle has a nice central location that many SBC teams could bus to and Texas State could go be with the Texas schools in CUSA.

It might be a challenge to find a trade that enough schools would agree with but IMO if we can't at least make this work there's no hope of reorganizing bot leagues.

In this hypothetical scenario, I think Texas State jumps all over it. I always thought the WAC was a good fit because of UTSA, Louisiana Tech, NMSU and UTA. I think CUSA would be a good fit because of UTSA, UTEP, Louisiana Tech, Rice and North Texas.

I really appreciate the Sun Belt giving us a home for FBS football and we have done little for the conference in return. Even with that said, the Sun Belt has always felt like a Southern football conference and I have always felt like we were a Southwestern football school. Even though I feel that CUSA is too spread out and probably needs to lose a few schools, it is a better regional fit for Texas State.

(07-04-2019 10:58 AM)debragga Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 08:13 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  The bash ULM, who is a charter member of SBC football, is back. Happy, happy , joy , joy. Such BS. We have been good members and stay relatively competitive, with huge wins over major P5 programs. ULL why don’t you tell us all about all your big P5 wins that look so good for the conference? Forever it was you didn’t want us in the same conference because we shared a name. We literally give you your precious name and that still isn’t good enough. You’d really rather go to Las Cruces, NM than have us that are right in the middle of the West Division?

The CUSA board has yet another realignment thread that I read through last night because I was bored, they treat us way worse over there than anybody does on this board.

I’m sure they do and don’t care what they say. I do care what our own conference brethren say. It’s just a respect thing.

(07-04-2019 01:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:58 AM)debragga Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 08:13 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  The bash ULM, who is a charter member of SBC football, is back. Happy, happy , joy , joy. Such BS. We have been good members and stay relatively competitive, with huge wins over major P5 programs. ULL why don’t you tell us all about all your big P5 wins that look so good for the conference? Forever it was you didn’t want us in the same conference because we shared a name. We literally give you your precious name and that still isn’t good enough. You’d really rather go to Las Cruces, NM than have us that are right in the middle of the West Division?

The CUSA board has yet another realignment thread that I read through last night because I was bored, they treat us way worse over there than anybody does on this board.

I’m sure they do and don’t care what they say. I do care what our own conference brethren say. It’s just a respect thing.

Makes whippin their ars sweater.

These threads are a joke, and a tiresome product of the offseason.
I’ve said in countless previous threads.....we don’t need any changes. Leave things just as they are and improve individually as funding allows. We are doing that. Look at the facilities we have started. And USA getting a new stadium!
Just hold the course!!!

(07-04-2019 01:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:58 AM)debragga Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 08:13 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  The bash ULM, who is a charter member of SBC football, is back. Happy, happy , joy , joy. Such BS. We have been good members and stay relatively competitive, with huge wins over major P5 programs. ULL why don’t you tell us all about all your big P5 wins that look so good for the conference? Forever it was you didn’t want us in the same conference because we shared a name. We literally give you your precious name and that still isn’t good enough. You’d really rather go to Las Cruces, NM than have us that are right in the middle of the West Division?

The CUSA board has yet another realignment thread that I read through last night because I was bored, they treat us way worse over there than anybody does on this board.

I’m sure they do and don’t care what they say. I do care what our own conference brethren say. It’s just a respect thing.

I doubt it would ever happen, but I think you guys are a prime candidate to find success with the option. You guys always have speed but usually aren't that great overall.

But I understand most fan bases aren't as ... open-minded about the triple option as ours is.

In terms of just football I would be happy to join Sun Belt if you got rid of Coastal, ULM, USA, and Texas State. For the record I think Texas State is a good program and I have respect for them. I just have no desire to share a conference with Texas schools.

Overall, the lack of support for basketball in the Sun Belt is biggest reason why I wouldn't want to join.

CUSA average basketball attendance is 3,374 (which is pathetic to be honest.) Having said that, there is only one school in the entire Sun Belt who meets that average, Louisiana with 3,596. I will say that ULM and Texas State are close to meeting that average but no one else is even close.

Louisiana has the highest basketball attendance in the Sun Belt and they would be 7th in CUSA.

The top three schools in CUSA average a total of 6,165/game.

ODU- 6,620
Marshall- 6,065
WKU- 5,809

The top three schools in the Sun Belt average a total of 3,335/game

Louisiana- 3,596
ULM- 3,341
Texas St- 3,067

(07-04-2019 10:28 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 01:29 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:58 AM)debragga Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 08:13 AM)Arrowhead Wrote:  The bash ULM, who is a charter member of SBC football, is back. Happy, happy , joy , joy. Such BS. We have been good members and stay relatively competitive, with huge wins over major P5 programs. ULL why don’t you tell us all about all your big P5 wins that look so good for the conference? Forever it was you didn’t want us in the same conference because we shared a name. We literally give you your precious name and that still isn’t good enough. You’d really rather go to Las Cruces, NM than have us that are right in the middle of the West Division?

The CUSA board has yet another realignment thread that I read through last night because I was bored, they treat us way worse over there than anybody does on this board.

I’m sure they do and don’t care what they say. I do care what our own conference brethren say. It’s just a respect thing.

I doubt it would ever happen, but I think you guys are a prime candidate to find success with the option. You guys always have speed but usually aren't that great overall.

But I understand most fan bases aren't as ... open-minded about the triple option as ours is.

Or as closed minded...about the triple option as ours

Geography drives everything for me in a hypothetical like this.

Since we are talking two schools, I'm adding La. Tech and Southern Miss.

I'd drop either the Carolina schools or the Georgia Schools. Probably Carolina since the Georgia schools are more easily accessible.

As it stands right now, Carolina and Georgia are the only places the Cajuns have to fly.

(07-04-2019 11:33 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  In terms of just football I would be happy to join Sun Belt if you got rid of Coastal, ULM, USA, and Texas State. For the record I think Texas State is a good program and I have respect for them. I just have no desire to share a conference with Texas schools.

Overall, the lack of support for basketball in the Sun Belt is biggest reason why I wouldn't want to join.

CUSA average basketball attendance is 3,374 (which is pathetic to be honest.) Having said that, there is only one school in the entire Sun Belt who meets that average, Louisiana with 3,596. I will say that ULM and Texas State are close to meeting that average but no one else is even close.

Louisiana has the highest basketball attendance in the Sun Belt and they would be 7th in CUSA.

The top three schools in CUSA average a total of 6,165/game.

ODU- 6,620
Marshall- 6,065
WKU- 5,809

The top three schools in the Sun Belt average a total of 3,335/game

Louisiana- 3,596
ULM- 3,341
Texas St- 3,067

The reality of basketball is that both CUSA and the SBC are perennial one-bid leagues and that for both conferences basketball is not going to make a meaningful dent in what we get for TV contracts. Football is what drives the bus and it would really only take the SBC poaching one top football program from CUSA to pretty much separate itself from both the CUSA and SBC and get into the Mountain West's rear-view mirror.

And mock Coastal if you want, they drubbed the CUSA champ before their #1 quarterback got hurt, they've got a national title in baseball and have had great leadership in athletics. They've come quite a long way in just the last 15 years. They may not get much better at football any time soon but I'd put more confidence in them than FAU, FIU, and UNCC.

Overall I think the belt is pretty solid. I wouldn't mind trading GAST for ODU or Marshall, but most of the other teams in the CUSA are unappealing.

State being in CUSA would likely lock us in a home and home OOC game every year.

(07-05-2019 08:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Geography drives everything for me in a hypothetical like this.

Since we are talking two schools, I'm adding La. Tech and Southern Miss.

I'd drop either the Carolina schools or the Georgia Schools. Probably Carolina since the Georgia schools are more easily accessible.

As it stands right now, Carolina and Georgia are the only places the Cajuns have to fly.

You my friend, are crazy. Won’t say who but there is for sure one school in Georgia and the Carolinas I would never want to not be in a conference with again.

(07-05-2019 11:33 AM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 08:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Geography drives everything for me in a hypothetical like this.

Since we are talking two schools, I'm adding La. Tech and Southern Miss.

I'd drop either the Carolina schools or the Georgia Schools. Probably Carolina since the Georgia schools are more easily accessible.

As it stands right now, Carolina and Georgia are the only places the Cajuns have to fly.

You my friend, are crazy. Won’t say who but there is for sure one school in Georgia and the Carolinas I would never want to not be in a conference with again.

^ clearly talking about GaState and Coastal Carolina

(07-05-2019 12:14 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 11:33 AM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 08:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Geography drives everything for me in a hypothetical like this.

Since we are talking two schools, I'm adding La. Tech and Southern Miss.

I'd drop either the Carolina schools or the Georgia Schools. Probably Carolina since the Georgia schools are more easily accessible.

As it stands right now, Carolina and Georgia are the only places the Cajuns have to fly.

You my friend, are crazy. Won’t say who but there is for sure one school in Georgia and the Carolinas I would never want to not be in a conference with again.

^ clearly talking about GaState and Coastal Carolina

I interpreted that to mean one school among the Georgia and Carolina teams and not one school each in the Georgia and Carolinas.

A school with a great baseball program like UL had better be appreciative of having Coastal in the league.

(07-05-2019 12:50 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 12:14 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 11:33 AM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 08:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Geography drives everything for me in a hypothetical like this.

Since we are talking two schools, I'm adding La. Tech and Southern Miss.

I'd drop either the Carolina schools or the Georgia Schools. Probably Carolina since the Georgia schools are more easily accessible.

As it stands right now, Carolina and Georgia are the only places the Cajuns have to fly.

You my friend, are crazy. Won’t say who but there is for sure one school in Georgia and the Carolinas I would never want to not be in a conference with again.

^ clearly talking about GaState and Coastal Carolina

I interpreted that to mean one school among the Georgia and Carolina teams and not one school each in the Georgia and Carolinas.

A school with a great baseball program like UL had better be appreciative of having Coastal in the league.

Also used a double negative so he's clearly meaning that there is one school he'd never want to separate from lol.

Based on geography and ego's aside. Some schools gain an OOC rivalry which makes things interesting.
Conf A
App, Coastal, Marshall, ODU, UNCC, WKU
FAU, FIU, GA So, GA St, Troy, UAB

Conf B
A State, La Tech, MTSU, ULM, USA, USM
Louisiana, N Tex, Rice, Tex St, UTEP, UTSA

You may proceed with tearing this apart and telling me why it won't work.

(07-05-2019 04:07 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Based on geography and ego's aside. Some schools gain an OOC rivalry which makes things interesting.
Conf A
App, Coastal, Marshall, ODU, UNCC, WKU
FAU, FIU, GA So, GA St, Troy, UAB

Conf B
A State, La Tech, MTSU, ULM, USA, USM
Louisiana, N Tex, Rice, Tex St, UTEP, UTSA

You may proceed with tearing this apart and telling me why it won't work.

Flip MTSU and Troy and I'm in. MTSU and WKU are annoying and deserve each other.

(07-05-2019 05:58 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 04:07 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Based on geography and ego's aside. Some schools gain an OOC rivalry which makes things interesting.
Conf A
App, Coastal, Marshall, ODU, UNCC, WKU
FAU, FIU, GA So, GA St, Troy, UAB

Conf B
A State, La Tech, MTSU, ULM, USA, USM
Louisiana, N Tex, Rice, Tex St, UTEP, UTSA

You may proceed with tearing this apart and telling me why it won't work.

Flip MTSU and Troy and I'm in. MTSU and WKU are annoying and deserve each other.

This would be my ideal conference (probably no chance of happening):

East
Georgia Southern
Marshall
App
Troy
Coastal
WKU

West
La Tech
Ark State
ULL
ULM
USM
South

Screw geography. We can make up for it by creating a league that has more TV contract value than either the SBC or CUSA and by getting bigger chunks of CFP money.

(07-05-2019 05:58 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(07-05-2019 04:07 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Based on geography and ego's aside. Some schools gain an OOC rivalry which makes things interesting.
Conf A
App, Coastal, Marshall, ODU, UNCC, WKU
FAU, FIU, GA So, GA St, Troy, UAB

Conf B
A State, La Tech, MTSU, ULM, USA, USM
Louisiana, N Tex, Rice, Tex St, UTEP, UTSA

You may proceed with tearing this apart and telling me why it won't work.

Flip MTSU and Troy and I'm in. MTSU and WKU are annoying and deserve each other.

Agree