(07-06-2019 08:47 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 07:44 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 06:49 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

The two highest men in our university. Their names rhyme with Salger and Ding.

Liberty's 1.4 billion dollar endowment helps a bit too

UMASS and Coastal have done it and I would bet JMU is far better off than CCU and possibly UMASS. Filling your schedule wouldn't be hard. The big question would be the waiver (but if they did it for the degree mill...) and where do you park your MBB and olympic sports?

CAA Football was formed with a separate charter from The CAA. We will have a substantial exit fee to leave The CAA and none should we move only football. Therefore, leaving all sports except football in The CAA should not present a problem. With that said, I've been led to believe we will not pursue options that split our sports up. Certainly there might be a sport we have that may not be sponsored in a new conference, then we'll find a home for that team. It does appear that out field hockey team will need to have a separate conference should we have the chance to move to the AAC. I would assume The CAA would allow our FH girls to stay as there are only seven schools participating in the sport.

(07-06-2019 07:44 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 06:49 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

The two highest men in our university. Their names rhyme with Salger and Ding.

Liberty's 1.4 billion dollar endowment helps a bit too

You mean the online diploma mill?

(07-06-2019 05:33 PM)GaryMatthews Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

I was under the impression their waiver was to be able to be classified as FBS without a conference invitation. Not sure there was anything in that agreement regarding the FCS to FBS transition period.

EDIT: Yep, they have/had a two year transitional period.
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=20472

EDIT2: If you're asking why we can't move up as an indy...probably because that would be insanely expensive and JMU is not an online degree printing factory?

No, i was talking about the transition period. Now that you mention the Indy thing, I recall that was what the waiver was about. Misremembered.

And no, no interest whatsoever in wandering around as an “independent”, and a 1-2 yr transition wouldn’t exactly be the end of the world. Need that time to over recruit like everyone else anyway.

Thanks for taking the time to look it up

(07-07-2019 08:10 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 05:33 PM)GaryMatthews Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

I was under the impression their waiver was to be able to be classified as FBS without a conference invitation. Not sure there was anything in that agreement regarding the FCS to FBS transition period.

EDIT: Yep, they have/had a two year transitional period.
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=20472

EDIT2: If you're asking why we can't move up as an indy...probably because that would be insanely expensive and JMU is not an online degree printing factory?

No, i was talking about the transition period. Now that you mention the Indy thing, I recall that was what the waiver was about. Misremembered.

And no, no interest whatsoever in wandering around as an “independent”, and a 1-2 yr transition wouldn’t exactly be the end of the world. Need that time to over recruit like everyone else anyway.

Thanks for taking the time to look it up

I thought their waiver had something to do with conferences giving them the cold shoulder because of their politics.

(07-07-2019 12:02 PM)Dignan Wrote:  

(07-07-2019 08:10 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 05:33 PM)GaryMatthews Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

I was under the impression their waiver was to be able to be classified as FBS without a conference invitation. Not sure there was anything in that agreement regarding the FCS to FBS transition period.

EDIT: Yep, they have/had a two year transitional period.
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=20472

EDIT2: If you're asking why we can't move up as an indy...probably because that would be insanely expensive and JMU is not an online degree printing factory?

No, i was talking about the transition period. Now that you mention the Indy thing, I recall that was what the waiver was about. Misremembered.

And no, no interest whatsoever in wandering around as an “independent”, and a 1-2 yr transition wouldn’t exactly be the end of the world. Need that time to over recruit like everyone else anyway.

Thanks for taking the time to look it up

I thought their waiver had something to do with conferences giving them the cold shoulder because of their politics.

That’s an assumption made by some with no proof to back it up. What they weren’t though, was an attractive option.

(07-07-2019 04:50 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-07-2019 12:02 PM)Dignan Wrote:  

(07-07-2019 08:10 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 05:33 PM)GaryMatthews Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

I was under the impression their waiver was to be able to be classified as FBS without a conference invitation. Not sure there was anything in that agreement regarding the FCS to FBS transition period.

EDIT: Yep, they have/had a two year transitional period.
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=20472

EDIT2: If you're asking why we can't move up as an indy...probably because that would be insanely expensive and JMU is not an online degree printing factory?

No, i was talking about the transition period. Now that you mention the Indy thing, I recall that was what the waiver was about. Misremembered.

And no, no interest whatsoever in wandering around as an “independent”, and a 1-2 yr transition wouldn’t exactly be the end of the world. Need that time to over recruit like everyone else anyway.

Thanks for taking the time to look it up

I thought their waiver had something to do with conferences giving them the cold shoulder because of their politics.

That’s an assumption made by some with no proof to back it up. What they weren’t though, was an attractive option.

Isn't your thoughts just another way of saying the same thing Dignan stated? They were given a cold shoulder seems like saying they weren't an attractive option. What am I missing?

(07-07-2019 11:58 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(07-07-2019 04:50 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-07-2019 12:02 PM)Dignan Wrote:  

(07-07-2019 08:10 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 05:33 PM)GaryMatthews Wrote:  I was under the impression their waiver was to be able to be classified as FBS without a conference invitation. Not sure there was anything in that agreement regarding the FCS to FBS transition period.

EDIT: Yep, they have/had a two year transitional period.
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=20472

EDIT2: If you're asking why we can't move up as an indy...probably because that would be insanely expensive and JMU is not an online degree printing factory?

No, i was talking about the transition period. Now that you mention the Indy thing, I recall that was what the waiver was about. Misremembered.

And no, no interest whatsoever in wandering around as an “independent”, and a 1-2 yr transition wouldn’t exactly be the end of the world. Need that time to over recruit like everyone else anyway.

Thanks for taking the time to look it up

I thought their waiver had something to do with conferences giving them the cold shoulder because of their politics.

That’s an assumption made by some with no proof to back it up. What they weren’t though, was an attractive option.

Isn't your thoughts just another way of saying the same thing Dignan stated? They were given a cold shoulder seems like saying they weren't an attractive option. What am I missing?

I'm guessing he meant the politics part being the driver. And there is good reason there is no proof of that as I'm sure it would violate some kind of discriminatory statute, but to think that the school's culture and politics had nothing to do with the cold shoulder is straight up denial.