(06-28-2019 02:53 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:53 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:42 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:37 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Doesn't this schedule now mean that ECU would have to win 7 to make a bowl with the sorry as hell OOC including TWO?!?! FCS teams?

Yeah. The reason ECU has two FCS opponents is because VT cancelled their game against ECU this year, because ECU would not travel to VT last year due to the hurricane.

I think that ECU goes 7-5 with basically the same players from last year. I don't think that people can really appreciate just how much Mo sucked as a HC or how much Compher sucked as an AD.

Completely forgot...seems odd that there were no open slots with an FBS team, but that is more agreeable than simply scheduling lower division teams to boost wins like someone's basketball team used to do.

If anything we've scheduled too difficult in the past. In my opinion our future scheduling philosophy needs to look something like couple of decent P-5's, a G-5, an FCS. Obviously the P-5/G-5 mix should be somewhat fluid. We don't need to kill ourselves OOC anymore because the AAC has shown to be an awesome league for that.

I would argue that it hasn't. See double undefeated UCF.

4 to 6 wins. As always we have plenty of talent at the skill positions, the lines are a toss up and will tell the tale.

(06-28-2019 11:55 AM)Lethemeul Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 11:51 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  5 or 6 wins. There is no way they're as bad as they've been lately. Last season was a low water mark.

As bad as last season was, I think 2017 was actually the low water mark of the Mo error. I think I watched the first two games that season. Last year I didn't completely give up until almost November.

Yeah not that we were by any means good last year, but by comparison to the weekly embarrassments that were 2017 last year seemed almost competitive. I predicted 6 wins, with the biggest "upset" being USF at home.

(06-28-2019 02:59 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 02:53 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:53 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:42 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:37 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Doesn't this schedule now mean that ECU would have to win 7 to make a bowl with the sorry as hell OOC including TWO?!?! FCS teams?

Yeah. The reason ECU has two FCS opponents is because VT cancelled their game against ECU this year, because ECU would not travel to VT last year due to the hurricane.

I think that ECU goes 7-5 with basically the same players from last year. I don't think that people can really appreciate just how much Mo sucked as a HC or how much Compher sucked as an AD.

Completely forgot...seems odd that there were no open slots with an FBS team, but that is more agreeable than simply scheduling lower division teams to boost wins like someone's basketball team used to do.

If anything we've scheduled too difficult in the past. In my opinion our future scheduling philosophy needs to look something like couple of decent P-5's, a G-5, an FCS. Obviously the P-5/G-5 mix should be somewhat fluid. We don't need to kill ourselves OOC anymore because the AAC has shown to be an awesome league for that.

I would argue that it hasn't. See double undefeated UCF.

We disagree mate. UCF has turned into a machine and they deserve credit for that. Look what they did to Cincy last year in Orlando, they controlled that game from kick off, and Cincy was a very good team. Now their fans still act like new money, but it is what it is.

(06-28-2019 02:58 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 02:57 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 02:04 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  The boys are back...

@ NC State - LOSS
Gardner-Webb - WIN
@ Navy - WIN
William & Mary - WIN
@ Old Dominion - WIN
Temple - WIN
@ UCF - LOSS
USF - WIN
Cincinnati - LOSS
@ SMU - WIN
@ UCONN - WIN
Tulsa - WIN

That's a very optimistic outlook.

It's what offseasons are made of.

Tulsa's going 11-3 baby!

(06-28-2019 03:05 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 02:59 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 02:53 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:53 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:42 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Yeah. The reason ECU has two FCS opponents is because VT cancelled their game against ECU this year, because ECU would not travel to VT last year due to the hurricane.

I think that ECU goes 7-5 with basically the same players from last year. I don't think that people can really appreciate just how much Mo sucked as a HC or how much Compher sucked as an AD.

Completely forgot...seems odd that there were no open slots with an FBS team, but that is more agreeable than simply scheduling lower division teams to boost wins like someone's basketball team used to do.

If anything we've scheduled too difficult in the past. In my opinion our future scheduling philosophy needs to look something like couple of decent P-5's, a G-5, an FCS. Obviously the P-5/G-5 mix should be somewhat fluid. We don't need to kill ourselves OOC anymore because the AAC has shown to be an awesome league for that.

I would argue that it hasn't. See double undefeated UCF.

We disagree mate. UCF has turned into a machine and they deserve credit for that. Look what they did to Cincy last year in Orlando, they controlled that game from kick off, and Cincy was a very good team. Now their fans still act like new money, but it is what it is.

Right, but they couldn't do better than 8th when the committee sat down.

I know this is a wildly hypothetical situation, but if you swap UCFs 4 OOC opponents with the (absolute best case scenario possible) 4 playoff teams (which were 3 conference champs and ND), and they'll still gone undefeated, the committee would have had real trouble keeping them out. Unlikely situation? Absolutely. But it implies that there is a sliding scale between an absolutely perfect scenario and the situation where UCF is 8th.

Many say that we (AAC teams) will never crack the top 4 no matter the circumstances. For those, I'm not going to change your mind. I, however, believe that Houston had a shot if they'd gone undefeated with their 2016 schedule. I might be delusional, but whatever.

What I do know is that, if/when the playoff ever goes to 8, getting an AAC team into the top 8 will 100% come down to SOS. We schedule way in advance, so the next schedule we put together could be an important one down the road. As in UCF's case, you don't want to be caught good with a bad schedule.

Sorry to go all Todge. It's the Friday mic drop, and I hate weak a** schedules.

(06-28-2019 10:20 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  All fans are welcome to vote, but please keep homerism and trolling to a minimum so as not to skew results.

LOL at this and seeing that you've picked both UConn and ECU to beat USF so far...

USFFan

(06-28-2019 03:57 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:20 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  All fans are welcome to vote, but please keep homerism and trolling to a minimum so as not to skew results.

LOL at this and seeing that you've picked both UConn and ECU to beat USF so far...

USFFan

Those results wouldn't be too surprising. Although I would pick USF to beat UConn. Verses ECU is more of a toss up with USF favored in my eyes.

(06-28-2019 03:43 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 03:05 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 02:59 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 02:53 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(06-28-2019 10:53 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Completely forgot...seems odd that there were no open slots with an FBS team, but that is more agreeable than simply scheduling lower division teams to boost wins like someone's basketball team used to do.

If anything we've scheduled too difficult in the past. In my opinion our future scheduling philosophy needs to look something like couple of decent P-5's, a G-5, an FCS. Obviously the P-5/G-5 mix should be somewhat fluid. We don't need to kill ourselves OOC anymore because the AAC has shown to be an awesome league for that.

I would argue that it hasn't. See double undefeated UCF.

We disagree mate. UCF has turned into a machine and they deserve credit for that. Look what they did to Cincy last year in Orlando, they controlled that game from kick off, and Cincy was a very good team. Now their fans still act like new money, but it is what it is.

Right, but they couldn't do better than 8th when the committee sat down.

I know this is a wildly hypothetical situation, but if you swap UCFs 4 OOC opponents with the (absolute best case scenario possible) 4 playoff teams (which were 3 conference champs and ND), and they'll still gone undefeated, the committee would have had real trouble keeping them out. Unlikely situation? Absolutely. But it implies that there is a sliding scale between an absolutely perfect scenario and the situation where UCF is 8th.

Many say that we (AAC teams) will never crack the top 4 no matter the circumstances. For those, I'm not going to change your mind. I, however, believe that Houston had a shot if they'd gone undefeated with their 2016 schedule. I might be delusional, but whatever.

What I do know is that, if/when the playoff ever goes to 8, getting an AAC team into the top 8 will 100% come down to SOS. We schedule way in advance, so the next schedule we put together could be an important one down the road. As in UCF's case, you don't want to be caught good with a bad schedule.

Sorry to go all Todge. It's the Friday mic drop, and I hate weak a** schedules.

I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying. I'm simply saying we need balanced schedules that acknowledge that our conference is good and that we don't need to try to schedule up to compensate like we used to. Balance.

I see a bowl game in year one under Coach Houston but probably not much more than that.

(06-28-2019 02:04 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  The boys are back...

@ NC State - LOSS
Gardner-Webb - WIN
@ Navy - WIN
William & Mary - WIN
@ Old Dominion - WIN
Temple - WIN
@ UCF - LOSS
USF - WIN
Cincinnati - LOSS
@ SMU - WIN
@ UCONN - WIN
Tulsa - WIN

I actually believe that's possible but we are bound to blow one of the others, either @Navy or @SMU or perhaps both. That said, (other than last year) I always believe that ECU at least has a puncher's chance to knock off State. However, I'm gonna say we shock some people & go exactly how you predicted except for we also drop @SMU and finish 8-4 (5-3 AAC).

@ NC State - WIN
Gardner-Webb - WIN
@ Navy - LOSS
William & Mary - WIN
@ Old Dominion - WIN

---- at this point ECU fans are unbearable

Temple - LOSS
@ UCF - LOSS
USF - LOSS
Cincinnati - LOSS
@ SMU - LOSS
@ UCONN - WIN
Tulsa - WIN

I feel like we always lose at SMU and get up for State (save last year which was a unique situation), so I have us beating some teams that are better than some of the teams I have us losing to... but isn't that how it goes?

6-6 and in a bowl!

(06-28-2019 05:24 PM)Chappy Wrote:  @ NC State - WIN
Gardner-Webb - WIN
@ Navy - LOSS
William & Mary - WIN
@ Old Dominion - WIN

---- at this point ECU fans are unbearable

Temple - LOSS
@ UCF - LOSS
USF - LOSS
Cincinnati - LOSS
@ SMU - LOSS
@ UCONN - WIN
Tulsa - WIN

I feel like we always lose at SMU and get up for State (save last year which was a unique situation), so I have us beating some teams that are better than some of the teams I have us losing to... but isn't that how it goes?

6-6 and in a bowl!

The only team I was concerned about got scared and cancelled. So I see an undefeated national champion team.

(06-28-2019 05:24 PM)Chappy Wrote:  @ NC State - WIN
Gardner-Webb - WIN
@ Navy - LOSS
William & Mary - WIN
@ Old Dominion - WIN

---- at this point ECU fans are unbearable

Temple - LOSS
@ UCF - LOSS
USF - LOSS
Cincinnati - LOSS
@ SMU - LOSS
@ UCONN - WIN
Tulsa - WIN

I feel like we always lose at SMU and get up for State (save last year which was a unique situation), so I have us beating some teams that are better than some of the teams I have us losing to... but isn't that how it goes?

6-6 and in a bowl!

6-6 won't get you in a bowl with two FCS on the schedule. The floor for eligibility is 7-5 for ECU

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(06-28-2019 05:24 PM)Chappy Wrote:  @ NC State - WIN
Gardner-Webb - WIN
@ Navy - LOSS
William & Mary - WIN
@ Old Dominion - WIN

---- at this point ECU fans are unbearable

Temple - LOSS
@ UCF - LOSS
USF - LOSS
Cincinnati - LOSS
@ SMU - LOSS
@ UCONN - WIN
Tulsa - WIN

I feel like we always lose at SMU and get up for State (save last year which was a unique situation), so I have us beating some teams that are better than some of the teams I have us losing to... but isn't that how it goes?

6-6 and in a bowl!

We seem to always have a better chance at the beginning of the year. Our lack of depth gets to best of us by November.


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Three if you count Yukon.

Wins: Gardner-Webb, William & Mary, Old Dominion, UCONN

4 wins

Straight Vegas. Bold strategy.


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(06-29-2019 08:33 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Straight Vegas. Bold strategy.


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Not sure if you are referring to my post or not. If so, I didn't see any odds. I looked at the schedule, combined that with my understanding of the current state of your program and recent lack of success and came up with four wins.

Did anybody hear something?