(06-24-2019 07:43 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 07:36 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Why does not the AAC just go for the MWC kill. Boise, Utah St, Air Force or CSU. I think SDSU is not worth the three time zones. This actually looks more like P6 for football.

West (Colorado, Utah, Ok & Tex)

Utah St
Boise St
Colorado St/Air Force
SMU
Houston
Tulsa
Navy if they want to stay west.

East
Memphis
Tulane
Cinci
Temple
ECU
UCF
USF

Because we don't need to. Why stretch ourselves thin, increase expenses, and reduce income to only all but guarantee the NY6 bid? We already have the inside track to the NY6 as it is

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Exactly. Not sure why this is hard for people to grasp.


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Still have not gotten why the AAC is so confident that NCAA and P5 will help the AAC by not having issue with a waiver since it is not a hardship but choice to stay at 11. It's not like the P5 has gone out of its way to help the AAC in the past. Imagine they will probably have input to the waiver request. They NCAA is likely to say, you can raise the issue to change the rules but if it fails, AAC willingly took that risk.


Council members adopted a proposal that originated with the Division I Football Oversight Committee but also approved an amendment from the Big Ten Conference. The amendment, offered by the Big Ten late last week, allows conferences with fewer than 12 members to hold championship games in football, as long as they meet one of two additional conditions: Conferences that want to play championship games must either play their championship game between division winners after round-robin competition in each division or between the top two teams in the conference standings following full round-robin, regular-season competition between all members of the conference.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/artic...-able-hold

(06-24-2019 08:41 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Still have not gotten why the AAC is so confident that NCAA and P5 will help the AAC by not having issue with a waiver since it is not a hardship but choice to stay at 11. It has not like the P5 has gone out of its way to help the AAC. Imagine they will probably have input to the waiver request.


Council members adopted a proposal that originated with the Division I Football Oversight Committee but also approved an amendment from the Big Ten Conference. The amendment, offered by the Big Ten late last week, allows conferences with fewer than 12 members to hold championship games in football, as long as they meet one of two additional conditions: Conferences that want to play championship games must either play their championship game between division winners after round-robin competition in each division or between the top two teams in the conference standings following full round-robin, regular-season competition between all members of the conference.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/artic...-able-hold

becuase big 12 had us all dance like pigs and put make up on..the big 12 is completely by choice and they dont even deny that..

the big 12 openly admitted they were looking....the aac has said we offered 2 teams, the only 2 teams we are looking at but beyond that arent looking at all

they have nothing to gain by preventing the division....NOTHING
while lawsuits and evidence for bias against non p5 if they decided to not give the waiver...

why would they care how we decide our champion?

Would there be anyway we could swing this?

Air Force FB ONLY
Boise State FB ONLY
San Diego State FB ONLY
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy

Memphis
Tulane
UCF
USF
Cincinnati
Temple
East Carolina

The FB onlys would have a BB scheduling agreement. Goes after the biggest named brands and markets left.... pay raise for the MWC teams...
Assuming we don’t get Army or BYU

Quote:... “we sound like the Big 12 when it decided not to expand a few years ago.”

Excellent.

(06-24-2019 09:00 PM)BuilditCoog Wrote:  Would there be anyway we could swing this?

Air Force FB ONLY
Boise State FB ONLY
San Diego State FB ONLY
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy

Memphis
Tulane
UCF
USF
Cincinnati
Temple
East Carolina

The FB onlys would have a BB scheduling agreement. Goes after the biggest named brands and markets left.... pay raise for the MWC teams...
Assuming we don’t get Army or BYU

That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

(06-24-2019 08:41 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Still have not gotten why the AAC is so confident that NCAA and P5 will help the AAC by not having issue with a waiver since it is not a hardship but choice to stay at 11. It's not like the P5 has gone out of its way to help the AAC in the past. Imagine they will probably have input to the waiver request. They NCAA is likely to say, you can raise the issue to change the rules but if it fails, AAC willingly took that risk.


Council members adopted a proposal that originated with the Division I Football Oversight Committee but also approved an amendment from the Big Ten Conference. The amendment, offered by the Big Ten late last week, allows conferences with fewer than 12 members to hold championship games in football, as long as they meet one of two additional conditions: Conferences that want to play championship games must either play their championship game between division winners after round-robin competition in each division or between the top two teams in the conference standings following full round-robin, regular-season competition between all members of the conference.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/artic...-able-hold

What would a waiver be for again? If the AAC stays at 11, then we’ll simply have unbalanced divisions and still stage a CCG. Big 10 did it for years. Apparently other leagues are open to changing the rules of a CCG - so that’s where any outside support comes from in the event we want to eliminate divisions and still stage a CCG without any sort of round robin.

Hell... Let's just go all-religious! We need 3 teams to get to 14, right?
BYU
Liberty
Notre Dame
Done.

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

Well to be fair, those are some pretty hateful laws being passed. As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with those laws even needing to be passed in the first place in those states.

(06-24-2019 09:45 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

Well to be fair, those are some pretty hateful laws being passed. As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with those laws even needing to be passed in the first place in those states.

Meet me over on the https://csnbbs.com/forum-540.html and we'll discuss it. I'll start a thread so you can find me.

But that's not the point. The point is, it is something that has had to be dealt with in the past (UCLA playing road games in southern states for example), and I think it is just a headache that SDSU is not worth.

(06-24-2019 09:45 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

Well to be fair, those are some pretty hateful laws being passed. As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with those laws even needing to be passed in the first place in those states.

Example? Like the huge desire to kill babies?

(06-24-2019 09:51 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:45 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

Well to be fair, those are some pretty hateful laws being passed. As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with those laws even needing to be passed in the first place in those states.

Example? Like the huge desire to kill babies?

No,no... Let's take that discussion to the https://csnbbs.com/forum-540.html board. I've got a thread all lined up there.

(06-24-2019 09:51 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:45 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

Well to be fair, those are some pretty hateful laws being passed. As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with those laws even needing to be passed in the first place in those states.

Example? Like the huge desire to kill babies?

Sure.

(06-24-2019 09:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:45 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

Well to be fair, those are some pretty hateful laws being passed. As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with those laws even needing to be passed in the first place in those states.

Meet me over on the https://csnbbs.com/forum-540.html and we'll discuss it. I'll start a thread so you can find me.

But that's not the point. The point is, it is something that has had to be dealt with in the past (UCLA playing road games in southern states for example), and I think it is just a headache that SDSU is not worth.

No lengthy discussion necessary. As for the second paragraph, that’s fair. SDSU even for football only just makes little sense. Flights to the east or west coast alone would be brutal.

(06-24-2019 09:56 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:49 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:45 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

Well to be fair, those are some pretty hateful laws being passed. As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with those laws even needing to be passed in the first place in those states.

Meet me over on the https://csnbbs.com/forum-540.html and we'll discuss it. I'll start a thread so you can find me.

But that's not the point. The point is, it is something that has had to be dealt with in the past (UCLA playing road games in southern states for example), and I think it is just a headache that SDSU is not worth.

No lengthy discussion necessary. As for the second paragraph, that’s fair. SDSU even for football only just makes little sense. Flights to the east or west coast alone would be brutal.

Well, I'm not gonna let you attack my standing as a good Libertarian without a rebuttal, so if you want to prove to me I'm in error, please visit
https://csnbbs.com/thread-878216.html and let's parse it out.

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:00 PM)BuilditCoog Wrote:  Would there be anyway we could swing this?

Air Force FB ONLY
Boise State FB ONLY
San Diego State FB ONLY
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy

Memphis
Tulane
UCF
USF
Cincinnati
Temple
East Carolina

The FB onlys would have a BB scheduling agreement. Goes after the biggest named brands and markets left.... pay raise for the MWC teams...
Assuming we don’t get Army or BYU

That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

That’s just being stupid. Not everyone in South agrees with your prejudice.

I don’t want any west coast teams or teams near the west coast because of the time change and the fact that it costs a lot of money to travel.


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(06-24-2019 10:03 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Well, I'm not gonna let you attack my standing as a good Libertarian without a rebuttal, so if you want to prove to me I'm in error, please visit
https://csnbbs.com/thread-878216.html and let's parse it out.

No attacks occurred. Simply expressing shock isn’t an attack in the slightest. And like I said, I’ll pass on the further political discussion. Unfortunate it was brought up in the first place.

(06-24-2019 10:06 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:40 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:00 PM)BuilditCoog Wrote:  Would there be anyway we could swing this?

Air Force FB ONLY
Boise State FB ONLY
San Diego State FB ONLY
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy

Memphis
Tulane
UCF
USF
Cincinnati
Temple
East Carolina

The FB onlys would have a BB scheduling agreement. Goes after the biggest named brands and markets left.... pay raise for the MWC teams...
Assuming we don’t get Army or BYU

That's gonna get a big no-vote from me, and from a lot of other conservative/libertarian southerners. No California schools. I don't want to hear about how they have to get special permission to "visit backward hate-filled states" from the state legislature every freaking fall.

That’s just being stupid. Not everyone in South agrees with your prejudice.

I don’t want any west coast teams or teams near the west coast because of the time change and the fact that it costs a lot of money to travel.


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Feel free to visit my thread over there as well to tell me how wrong I am. Attacking my political position is inappropriate on this forum. The fact remains, this is an issue between the State of Cali, and the state of TN,AL,GA,etc. and I don't think we should deal with it. Your reasons are moot if you are one of those that is in favor of Boise, seeing as SDSU is actually closer to us than Boise.

Fletcher Page (@FletcherPage) Tweeted:
Initial conversations indicate the AAC is unlikely to replace UConn and will move forward with 11 football-member schools, source says

https://t.co/wIBj4Yot96 https://twitter.com/FletcherPage/status/...11584?s=17

(06-24-2019 10:08 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 10:03 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Well, I'm not gonna let you attack my standing as a good Libertarian without a rebuttal, so if you want to prove to me I'm in error, please visit
https://csnbbs.com/thread-878216.html and let's parse it out.

No attacks occurred. Simply expressing shock isn’t an attack in the slightest. And like I said, I’ll pass on the further political discussion. Unfortunate it was brought up in the first place.

Whatever, dude. I'll let your words speak for themselves.

Quote:As a Libertarian I’m shocked you’re ok with...