(06-23-2019 03:39 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 03:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Responding to the OP: It’s only a terrible decision if UConn wants to maintain a viable FBS-level football program. However, it seems like UConn is ready/willing to kiss football goodbye and focus on basketball. In which case, no this is not a terrible decision. Quite the opposite.

But if you read the article Attack posted, an AAC source says UConn assumed they could park their football here.

That’s BS

They are only saying that so when we kick out the football team. They can whine and say they were booted from the league and they shouldn’t have to pay exit fees because we voted them out. Exit fees will be settled in court and probably take an unreasonable amount of time to figure out.

(06-23-2019 03:39 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 03:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Responding to the OP: It’s only a terrible decision if UConn wants to maintain a viable FBS-level football program. However, it seems like UConn is ready/willing to kiss football goodbye and focus on basketball. In which case, no this is not a terrible decision. Quite the opposite.

But if you read the article Attack posted, an AAC source says UConn assumed they could park their football here.

Wow. That is... bizarre, to say the least.

I’ve said on another forum that UConn is doing this for MBB/WBB and from that perspective I don’t blame them. It’s actually a rational/justifiable decision. Big East should remain a nationally-elite hoops-conference for a long time.

But for *football, specifically*, this is UConn’s suicide note. No, of course they will not be allowed to park their (worthless) football in AAC. No, of course they will not be able to thrive as an FBS-level Independent anymore than UMass or New Mexico State is able to.

uconn fball facility

The absolute worst recruiting class in the nation.

This is the true reality. The UConn athletic and board saw the huge deficit built kn their horrific decisions and have used this move to save their jobs for a few years at the expense of the university. They r done. No chance at ACC or B10. BC and Cuse ripped their heart out. The AAC provided life support, now they are DOA.
Never thought I would see the day that J would have more hope as a Tulane fan as compared to my many UConn friends.
Uconn you are done.

(06-23-2019 03:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 03:39 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 03:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Responding to the OP: It’s only a terrible decision if UConn wants to maintain a viable FBS-level football program. However, it seems like UConn is ready/willing to kiss football goodbye and focus on basketball. In which case, no this is not a terrible decision. Quite the opposite.

But if you read the article Attack posted, an AAC source says UConn assumed they could park their football here.

Wow. That is... bizarre, to say the least.

I’ve said on another forum that UConn is doing this for MBB/WBB and from that perspective I don’t blame them. It’s actually a rational/justifiable decision. Big East should remain a nationally-elite hoops-conference for a long time.

But for *football, specifically*, this is UConn’s suicide note. No, of course they will not be allowed to park their (worthless) football in AAC. No, of course they will not be able to thrive as an FBS-level Independent anymore than UMass or New Mexico State is able to.

Between their home stadium and practice facilities, UConn has spent over $100mm for fball. Nicely done.

(06-22-2019 02:24 PM)EvilLore Wrote:  I feel legit bad for their football fanbase, because that program is now officially dead, buried and never coming back. It also means that any fleeting hopes of a P5 invite are permanantly over as well. Sucks for them.

I've never seen a school slit their own throat for an olympic sport. It's fascinating to watch.

Their football program will get "IDAHOED". The P5 regional teams they hope will play them to keep them afloat as an independent won't. BC has bad blood with them after the law suit and Rutgers only has 3 OOC games. Rutgers will have to use one of those games against a P5 opponent and the other 2 games against winnable opponents because of the B-10 schedule. Hey maybe that's the key. Maybe UConn can be one of Rutgers winnable games as they free fall out of FBS to FCS and the CAA with Villanova. Really sorry to see UConn FB and UConn leave the AAC. The whole move is so shortsighted on their part but it is apparent the power struggle at UCONN favors the old school BB donors on this move who want to live in the past which really isn't there anymore with Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers, WV, VT, BC, ND, L'Ville, and Miami gone.

(06-23-2019 03:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Responding to the OP: It’s only a terrible decision if UConn wants to maintain a viable FBS-level football program. However, it seems like UConn is ready/willing to kiss football goodbye and focus on basketball. In which case, no this is not a terrible decision. Quite the opposite.

They will get $4mm a year in the BE all while their Fball program will go
deeper in the red with no hope of a B10 or ACC life support, unlike the top of the AAC schools.

12 Reasons why UCONN will regret the new big east from a UCONN fan perspective

https://medium.com/@stholeary/12-reasons...90b9a00043

1) No Plan for Football

2) Football Independence Will Fail, Badly

3) No One Outside of Connecticut Cares About the Big East

4) The AAC is Better than the Big East at Basketball!

5) Fans Didn’t Care About These Teams

6) AAC is Not Why UConn Loses

7) Football Drives College Sports

8) No ACC or Big Ten, Ever

9) Regional Goals vs National Dreams

10) Streaming Is the Future

11) Less Money!

12) The Eternal Sadness of Chasing Ghosts

"Jim Calhoun isn’t walking through that door. I understand that UConn fans want to relive the glory days, but retreating to the zombie Big East isn’t the answer.
I see the sadness up close here in D.C. with Georgetown. The fans sell out the arena for Syracuse but don’t show up for Seton Hall. They want it to permanently be 1985, much like UConn fans want it to always be 2004.
But 2004 is gone, along with the real Big East. UConn must move on.
Instead of moving on, UConn is retreating. UConn used to be about chasing greatness, not ghosts of the past."

I'm glad we added Wichita State. UCONN is a big basketball loss for the conference. Has UCONN given up on their football program?

(06-24-2019 06:47 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  I'm glad we added Wichita State. UCONN is a big basketball loss for the conference. Has UCONN given up on their football program?

If they were given some type of assurance that acc and big 12 is completely off the table, its the right move. If possible I'd prefer usf had stayed in the old big east and played independent football or mac/cusa fb only. It's that much better than this league. It's a poor decision if they were still in some type of consideration/short list for acc/big12 as this move seems to completely shut the door on that as a possibility

I posted this in the original departure thread, but is applicable to this "terrible decision" thread

(06-22-2019 11:57 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:36 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  When the next round of P5 realignment occurs in 5 years, multiple AAC schools will be gone. UCONN wasn't going to be one of them. The Big East has made it clear that they wanted 11 members for a 20 game schedule. Better to cement that spot now then wait for someone like St Louis get it then have no option when those AAC schools leave. UCONN being proactive for once instead of getting ACC'd again at the last minute.

This has to be fundamental to UConn's decision process here.
1) giving up on being called up to the "P5" conferences in the next big shift
2) lack of faith in the P6 promise - that is disbelieving that the conference as a whole will be on the right side of the divide and/or believing that other individual teams will be called up and the AAC will be back to a fractured, weak player

So go all-in on basketball.
Football FBS independent to keep alive slim slim slim hope (like 1%?) of BE basketball and life support football being their ticket to a "P5" league in 5-7 years.

Add in the hurt feelings factor from the conference not ensuring SNY over ESPN+, and the other emotions-only thinking about rivalries / MSG...

So now I guess I can see the thinking. I think it's flawed, but it isn't my decision to make.

(06-24-2019 08:10 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  If they were given some type of assurance that acc and big 12 is completely off the table, its the right move. If possible I'd prefer usf had stayed in the old big east and played independent football or mac/cusa fb only. It's that much better than this league. It's a poor decision if they were still in some type of consideration/short list for acc/big12 as this move seems to completely shut the door on that as a possibility

It’s a poor choice because they didn’t have to make the choice now. They should have waited until the Big XII’s big two decide where they want to play ball.

I still wouldn’t be shocked to see the ACC mess with the Big East again and go after Villanova and/or Georgetown while they take over MSG. Why not, they are basically waiting for Notre Dame to go all in. Maybe they make a play at Texas. Heck a 14/18 model with Texas and Notre Dame on a scheduling agreement for football would serve ESPN rather well.

The more I think about this from the American’s side the more I like their spot. It almost impossible not to improve football. Basketball is harder but there are good options.

IMO, the SNY thing triggered the protest from fans, which triggered the split. Seems short sighted if you care about football. Otherwise, okay. It seems from social media that the football team and coaches aren't happy, plus a few fans.

https://medium.com/@stholeary/12-reasons...90b9a00043

Sums up most of everyone's thoughts on the negative side of this.

UConn could have been rebuilt as a football school. They have good facilities and the right coach could find decent talent for them to compete and go bowling every year. They could have gone and taken players away from the MAC and dipped into that giant talent pool in South Florida for some decent athletes that USF and UCF wouldn't have taken. Do that and have an innovative football coach-and you can schedule the worst schools in the G5 to get to six wins. That would have been enough for the AAC to say "good enough, UConn". We know that the Northeast is dead for college football so all they had to do was hold the line and get MBB up to where it was five years ago (and I think Hurley can do that). Stupid, stupid, stupid.
And if the UConn AD seriously thought we would have let them stay in the AAC given how their football team has played the past few years, then that just reeks of arrogance.

Wolo had Joe D’Ambrosio on yesterday. He seems to think UCONN is headed to CUSA or SBC. Doesn’t think Indy is sustainable.

Sportstime Wolo & Stats (June 24 - hour 3) @ 25:30min mark
https://sports56whbq.com/podcasts

(06-25-2019 10:58 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  https://medium.com/@stholeary/12-reasons...90b9a00043

Sums up most of everyone's thoughts on the negative side of this.

Good article. Pretty much sums it up too. This is a huge mistake.

(06-25-2019 11:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Wolo had Joe D’Ambrosio on yesterday. He seems to think UCONN is headed to CUSA or SBC. Doesn’t think Indy is sustainable.

Sportstime Wolo & Stats (June 24 - hour 3) @ 25:30min mark
https://sports56whbq.com/podcasts

Neither conference would make sense from a travel perspective if football is downsizing. Their best bet is the MAC or the CAA if they drop down to FCS.

(06-22-2019 04:09 PM)Bull Wrote:  To go from being in a BCS bowl a decade ago (or so...), to dropping football? Wow what's in the water in Connecticut? Damn....

The TUlane story. We regretted divesting for 20 years.

(06-25-2019 11:46 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Wolo had Joe D’Ambrosio on yesterday. He seems to think UCONN is headed to CUSA or SBC. Doesn’t think Indy is sustainable.

Sportstime Wolo & Stats (June 24 - hour 3) @ 25:30min mark
https://sports56whbq.com/podcasts

Here's another Joe D'Ambrosio radio interview yesterday with Marc Daniels in Orlando:
(Joe blames the hiring of Bob Diaco for killing UCONN Football)

https://969thegame.iheart.com/featured/b...can-means/