(06-24-2019 08:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 05:14 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 04:58 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Maybe the MAC would take UMass and UConn as a pair of football-only members

This makes a lot of sense to me.

They can be in the east division with UAkron, UBg, and UMiami.

Can't ... Bowling Green would move to the West, and the University of Miami plays in the ACC. They would be in the East with Buffalo, OhioU, MiamiU, UAkron, and KSU.

UCONN is gonna get the BYU treatment more so than the UMass, Liberty, NMSU independence. Maybe not in the first season or two though. Just my opinion.

UMass & UCONN as football only in the MAC would be kinda cool though.

(06-24-2019 09:29 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 09:14 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 03:05 AM)panite Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 03:13 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  The "Reason" behind this move is that UConn athletics is hemorrhaging $$$.

The ONLY logical answer then is to follow the example of the majority of the BE member schools and discontinue FB operations. Only two BE members sponsor FB at a varsity level: Villanova, which is established at the FCS level, and Georgetown, which plays non-scholarship FCS football. All the other BE programs have no varsity FB.

As for "keeping" football in the AAC? Nope. Don't see it happening. We don't need UConn more than UConn "needs" the AAC.

'Bye Felicia.

KARMA - UConn once voted to kick Temple out of the BE for FB because Temple invested the FB money into their BB program while the FB program fell on hard times and was almost eliminated from the university. Now Temple gets to repay UConn and vote their FB out of the AAC while they invest in their men's and women's BB and let their FB program fall into oblivion.

Wow. That's some serious karma. I never thought about that.

Strictly speaking, UConn's chosing to withdraw itself from AAC football and Temple would just be against subsequently adding them as a football-only member. There're no squatters' rights on football when giving your however-many-months' notice.

Reading different articles where it says UConn would like to leave their FB in the AAC after taking their remaining programs to the BE. The AAC says no - FB voted out. UConn however is prepared to go other routes though. See UConn's logic a little, but they are not returning to the BE of old. Don't see St. Johns, Seton Hall, or Providence filling their stands. Nova and G'Town will but UConn still has the same distance problem with the rest of the BE as they have with the AAC so fans from Marquette, DePaul, Creighton, Butler, and Xavier won't be showing up either. Good luck but football is a dead man walking for UConn. Independence first, then FCS down the road and UConn has already torn down their on campus stadium. If the students won't travel to Hartford for the AAC teams they are not traveling there for FCS teams.

(06-25-2019 03:25 AM)AuzGrams Wrote:  UCONN is gonna get the BYU treatment more so than the UMass, Liberty, NMSU independence. Maybe not in the first season or two though. Just my opinion.

UMass & UCONN as football only in the MAC would be kinda cool though.

Doubt the MAC moves on that since they already booted UMass to the curb once with out the rest of their sports programs. Besides UMass has their eyes on the AAC. Likely hood of that happening is low but the MAC isn't going to take them again knowing they have roving eyes and their sights set on moving up to another conference.

(06-25-2019 11:25 AM)panite Wrote:  Reading different articles where it says UConn would like to leave their FB in the AAC after taking their remaining programs to the BE. The AAC says no - FB voted out.

You can't vote out a team that's not part of the conference. I have no doubt the AAC will say no to UConn rejoining as an affiliate, but that's going to be a direct result of UConn withdrawing from the conference beginning sometime in the next week (and knowing that football will be leaving as part of that). They wouldn't be voting out UConn any more than they voted out Florida International today. Not extending an invitation is different than actively expelling a member.

umass and UConn football only to the pac 12

UConn will not have trouble scheduling. They can schedule a former Yankee rival yearly, Liberty, UMass, get a series going with Army and Buffalo, and say to the rest: "hi, we've won a few nattys in men's and women's hoops, will you play our football team for a basketball series?"

I voted MAC, because it is probably their best realistic option, but independence is sustainable with that heavyweight basketball program (except they can't seem to beat UNC - )

* I believe UConn will start to dominate Big East hoops and we may see a title within the next five years. The fox has just been given clearance to enter the henhouse.

I wonder how many games a year they can sell to streaming devices. UConn can be a true guinea pig in how the future of sports will be distributed.

(06-25-2019 12:20 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I wonder how many games a year they can sell to streaming devices. UConn can be a true guinea pig in how the future of sports will be distributed.

Absolutely, universities are stacking their AV departments with talent to cut out the middleman and stream their own content. Bits are cheap. Conferences and networks will start mattering less and less.

The music industry has gone back to singles, college sports will start to feel the allure of independence.

Unfortunately, the music industry going back to singles has hurt the industry moreso than help it. The content these days are terrible, even with exceptions to the rule like Ole Town Road. But that's another topic for discussion haha

(06-25-2019 12:41 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Unfortunately, the music industry going back to singles has hurt the industry moreso than help it. The content these days are terrible, even with exceptions to the rule like Ole Town Road. But that's another topic for discussion haha

That's up for debate. By the late 90's, the music industry had become a bloated, greedy, slave driving conglomerate; pirating and streaming became a sort of a revolution.

There is and always will be people against popular music in every generation!

But yes, definitely another convo.

(06-25-2019 11:29 AM)panite Wrote:  Doubt the MAC moves on that since they already booted UMass to the curb once with out the rest of their sports programs.

The MAC was at 13 football schools, though. This meant our schools in the seven-member East were not playing a full round robin, a fact that the NCAA frowned upon (and had to issue the conference a waiver for).

Quote:Besides UMass has their eyes on the AAC. Likely hood of that happening is low but the MAC isn't going to take them again knowing they have roving eyes and their sights set on moving up to another conference.

True, MAC presidents might be a bit more skeptical of taking on a couple of football-only members in the East given that trying to do that with Temple and UMass did not work out. But taking UConn and UMass as a pair is more or less what the MAC was trying to do with Temple and UMass.

Why would ESPN give the MAC more money for UMass and UConn football? Why would anyone? Not even DAZN would pay money for that trash

(06-25-2019 01:17 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Why would ESPN give the MAC more money for UMass and UConn football?

I don't know if they would or they wouldn't.

But I do know when Temple and UMass were in the MAC, they agreed to send their basketball teams on the road to MAC schools. That had value. Plus, I think the presidents liked having institutions like Temple and UMass in the conference. That had value, too.

Brett McMurphy

@Brett_McMurphy

BYU & Army are top candidates, if interested, to replace UConn in AAC, sources told @Stadium - unless AAC stays at 11.

UConn’s best option in FBS is as an independent.

Sources said no interest from AAC, MAC or C-USA for UConn as football-only member

https://watchstadium.com/news/how-uconns...6-24-2019/ …



Welcome to football independence, UConn.

(06-24-2019 05:11 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 05:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 04:56 PM)Bogg Wrote:  Also, and not for nothing, but if UConn can find a way to recruit well enough as an independent to flirt with 6-6 against low-end competition, the fans will show up. They like their UConn and they don't much care about whether a non-name-brand school is actually good (see the stadium being half-full for UCF). If they're really committed to making an honest run at independence a drop off in quality of opponent probably won't actually hurt attendance.

The nature of the bowl game system makes it so that UCONN could in theory have an 8 or 9 win season and still sit at home. It's not out of the question they could finish with 10 wins and still have no bowl game. It's hard to imagine that not hurting attendance. What do you have to play for? You could go undefeated and be guaranteed to not only not make the CFP ... but not even make the NY6. Even ND has to partner with somebody to get bowl access.

I think you need to keep in mind where UConn's coming from. They've averaged (I think) less than 2 conference wins a year in the AAC. A scenario where they're winning 8 to 10 games but don't play in a bowl game sounds great. Attendence would skyrocket in that scenario. I'll sign up for that tommorow.

You are seriously underestimating how bad UCONN will be as Ind. I seriously think UCONN could be as bad as N.Mexico State as Ind.

In another post I stated.

A total flush of their FB program. No one would want their FB program only. They will go Ind in which they will have a lot of body bag games, which will make up for some of their conference and CFP $. They will lose many more recruiting wars in FB (their peers will much lower FBS programs). Good luck getting football games @ UCONN in colder months. If they do get to six wins, guess what you just pissed off ESPN and your program is alone so UCONN will be the last team to get a bowl invite. Considering ESPN owns all the lower bowls, this might be most damning to UCONN. It will definitely be used against them on the recruiting trail. This is where their recruiting peer schools will be "lowered". Come play at UCONN where you can't win a conference championship, no bowl, @ a stadium no one wants to visit, and no fanbase.

I expect after a decade of declining FB they either pull the plug on FB or drop to FCS and lose more $ considering most P5 will not schedule thus fewer bodybag games.

(06-25-2019 03:31 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 05:11 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 05:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-24-2019 04:56 PM)Bogg Wrote:  Also, and not for nothing, but if UConn can find a way to recruit well enough as an independent to flirt with 6-6 against low-end competition, the fans will show up. They like their UConn and they don't much care about whether a non-name-brand school is actually good (see the stadium being half-full for UCF). If they're really committed to making an honest run at independence a drop off in quality of opponent probably won't actually hurt attendance.

The nature of the bowl game system makes it so that UCONN could in theory have an 8 or 9 win season and still sit at home. It's not out of the question they could finish with 10 wins and still have no bowl game. It's hard to imagine that not hurting attendance. What do you have to play for? You could go undefeated and be guaranteed to not only not make the CFP ... but not even make the NY6. Even ND has to partner with somebody to get bowl access.

I think you need to keep in mind where UConn's coming from. They've averaged (I think) less than 2 conference wins a year in the AAC. A scenario where they're winning 8 to 10 games but don't play in a bowl game sounds great. Attendence would skyrocket in that scenario. I'll sign up for that tommorow.

You are seriously underestimating how bad UCONN will be as Ind. I seriously think UCONN could be as bad as N.Mexico State as Ind.

In another post I stated.

A total flush of their FB program. No one would want their FB program only. They will go Ind in which they will have a lot of body bag games, which will make up for some of their conference and CFP $. They will lose many more recruiting wars in FB (their peers will much lower FBS programs). Good luck getting football games @ UCONN in colder months. If they do get to six wins, guess what you just pissed off ESPN and your program is alone so UCONN will be the last team to get a bowl invite. Considering ESPN owns all the lower bowls, this might be most damning to UCONN. It will definitely be used against them on the recruiting trail. This is where their recruiting peer schools will be "lowered". Come play at UCONN where you can't win a conference championship, no bowl, @ a stadium no one wants to visit, and no fanbase.

I expect after a decade of declining FB they either pull the plug on FB or drop to FCS and lose more $ considering most P5 will not schedule thus fewer bodybag games.

I don't agree for the following reasons:

• They have the exact same coach as they did during their most successful FBS period

• They can now schedule a more regional and appropriate schedule that interests the fanbase

• They can schedule some "very nice" Borat money games

• Hate to break it to you, but when it comes to AAC vs Independent there is no difference to a recruit. "Oh yay, I can play the team that won the fake championship!"

• LOL

• Their basketball program will get the football program some great games

UConn will be fine as an independent. They will get a BYU type schedule easily. 4 to 6 ACC and Big Ten teams on the schedule each year I would imagine.

(06-25-2019 08:04 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  UConn will be fine as an independent. They will get a BYU type schedule easily. 4 to 6 ACC and Big Ten teams on the schedule each year I would imagine.

I voted disband because that is essentially what they did four years ago in the AAC. It’s like they just wanted to suck in football and basketball the last four years.

Maybe UConn and UMass merge their football programs. UComannss