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Year CFB games in Mercedes-Benz Stadium – Atlanta, GA
2019 Duke Alabama Aug. 31, 2019
2020 Florida State West Virginia Sep. 5, 2020
Georgia Virginia Sep. 7, 2020
Auburn North Carolina Sep. 12, 2020
Notre Dame Georgia Tech Nov. 14, 2020
2021 Louisville Ole Miss Sep. 4-6, 2021
Miami Alabama Sep. 4-6, 2021
TBD Georgia Tech TBA, 2021

2022 Oregon Georgia Sep. 3, 2022
Clemson Georgia Tech Sep. 5, 2022
2023 TBD Georgia Tech TBA, 2023
2024 Clemson Georgia Aug. 31, 2024
Notre Dame Georgia Tech Oct. 19, 2024

Over the next six years there are currently 13 college football games scheduled to be played in Atlanta's state-of-the-art Mercedes-Benz stadium. 12 of those 13 games involve at least one ACC team - more than any other conference, including the SEC.

It would be good if the ACC can "take back" Atlanta to a greater extent...

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The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!
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(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Forget Mercedes-Benz, a "404 Takeover" being real will be legit if/when Bobby Dodd Stadium isn't half (or more) red on November 30, 2019. Just being honest.

Hopefully, we will see a significant reduction in this scenario...

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(06-20-2019 07:59 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Forget Mercedes-Benz, a "404 Takeover" being real will be legit if/when Bobby Dodd Stadium isn't half (or more) red on November 30, 2019. Just being honest.

Hopefully, we will see a significant reduction in this scenario...

[Image: Bobby-Dodd-Stadium-Scott-Cunningham-Gett...ax8t2b.jpg]

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(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Can you take back something you never actually had?
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(06-20-2019 08:30 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Can you take back something you never actually had?

For starters, he didn't say take "back". He said take "over".

Second, back in the 50's (yes, 60+ years ago), Georgia Tech most definitely was the hottest ticket in Atlanta and the entire state of Georgia for that matter...and, decades prior to the 50's. Even in the 60's Tech FB was a much bigger player in the Atlanta scene, when Atlanta was much smaller.

To suggest otherwise using the word "never" is either utter ignorance and/or very poor understanding of the history of southern football especially when it comes to the city of Atlanta and state of Georgia.
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(06-20-2019 08:40 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 08:30 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Can you take back something you never actually had?

For starters, he didn't say take "back". He said take "over".

Second, back in the 50's (yes, 60+ years ago), Georgia Tech most definitely was the hottest ticket in Atlanta and the entire state of Georgia for that matter...and, decades prior to the 50's. Even in the 60's Tech FB was a much bigger player in the Atlanta scene, when Atlanta was much smaller.

To suggest otherwise using the word "never" is either utter ignorance and/or very poor understanding of the history of southern football especially when it comes to the city of Atlanta and state of Georgia.



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OK....OK.... Lets revist Georgia Tech's History.....

On Jan. 24, 1964, the Georgia Tech announced its intent to leave the SEC. At the crux of Tech’s exit was the so-called 140 Rule. SEC schools (there were 12, Tulane included) were allowed 140 scholarships for football and men’s basketball; football programs were allowed to sign as many 45 recruits per season. Tech's coach Bobby Dodd believed that other teams were overrecruiting, pushing aside underperforming players to clear scholarship space for newer ones. Coach Dodd wanted the SEC to allow fewer signees per recruiting class and had an ardent ally in Tech president Edwin Harrison. Tech almost got the 140 Rule changed at the 1963 SEC winter meetings, but Alabama president Frank Rose, breaking with the stated wishes of Crimson Tide coach Bear Bryant, voted to keep it. The 1964 meetings convened at the downtown Atlanta Americana Motor Hotel, with some believing that the Jackets had delivered an ultimatum: Change the rule or we’re out. After two days of wrangling and failed compromises, Harrison opened the Friday presidents’ meeting by saying, “Georgia Tech’s interests would best be served by withdrawing from the conference.” As Ginn noted in his article, the official vote had not yet been taken. When it was, the count was 11-0 to keep the 140 Rule.

Georgia Tech lost some great rivalries when they left as they played Alabama and Auburn. Auburn so loathed the Jackets that it held an annual “Wreck Tech” parade. Florida was a great rivalry. Tennessee and Vanderbilt were big rivalries. People really enjoyed those. It has taken a long time for that to heal. In 1963, the enrollment at Georgia Tech was about 6,300 students, and there were roughly 50,000 living alumni. In 2011, the enrollment at Georgia Tech (was) more than 20,000, and there (were) more than 120,000 living alumni. Atlanta’s metro population more than tripled. Yet Georgia Tech’s average football attendance for 2010 was less than in 1963.

One consequence of Tech’s SEC exit involves Atlanta itself. The city was split almost 50-50 between Jackets and Bulldogs in the early ’60s, but this remained an SEC town even without an SEC team. By leaving the conference, Georgia Tech ceded Atlanta to Georgia.


Along with the Mercedes-Benz takeover, the ND Signifcant Series back on and Georgia Tech's new regime (AD, Football Coaches) have gone back to the Bobby Ross coaching tree and plucked a George O'leary coaching protege in Geoff Collins... The goal is to get Georgia Tech back in the national conversation that George O'Leary had Tech at with five straight Top 25 AP finishes from 1997-2001. The buzz around Georgia Tech is that the new AD along with the new football staff and with the new ACC Network, Georgia Tech can get there.

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Most Georgia Tech fans would like to keep the Clemson cross over rival game but would like to see Florida State switch with UVA to the Coastal. This would allow Georgia Tech and FSU to play more and allow FSU and Miami to play on the regular and UVA and VT would keep the season ending rivalry as they would be annual crossovers.... Probably never going to happen. So we can hope that we might be able to get a series going with Auburn/Florida again now that the TO/flexbone are gone!! It would be nice to so the TBD games at the Mercedes Stadium become Auburn/Florida vs Georgia Tech Chic Fil A KO games

The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

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Current Georgia Tech Rivalaries/Signifcant Series
COFH rivalry - Georgia leads 67–41–5
Clemson–Georgia Tech football rivalry - Georgia Tech leads the all-time series 50–31–2.
Battle of the Tech's - Virginia Tech leads, 9–7
Georgia Tech - Miami Series - Tied 12-12
Georgia Tech-Notre Dame Series - Notre Dame leads the series 29–6–1.
Georgia Tech-Duke Series - Georgia Tech leads the series 51-34-1

Former (SEC) Georgia Tech Rivalaries/Signifcant Series
Auburn–Georgia Tech football rivalry - Auburn leads 47–41–4
Georgia Tech–Tennessee football rivalry -Tennessee leads 25–17–2
The Georgia Tech–Vanderbilt football rivalry - Georgia Tech leads 20–15–3
Georgia Tech-Tulane series - Georgia Tech leads 37-13
Georgia Tech-Florida series- Georgia Tech 23-9-6
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(06-20-2019 07:59 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Forget Mercedes-Benz, a "404 Takeover" being real will be legit if/when Bobby Dodd Stadium isn't half (or more) red on November 30, 2019. Just being honest.

Hopefully, we will see a significant reduction in this scenario...

[Image: Bobby-Dodd-Stadium-Scott-Cunningham-Gett...ax8t2b.jpg]


That's reflective of the low confidence in the program in '15 when that was taken. New HC. New AD. New Pres. BDS itself is another kettle of fish. The West Stands don't meet current code in ATL so if you change anything you have to make it meet code. The Upper North was rushed to appease O'Leary and a mistake. There is a shockingly long waiting list for premium (box) seating. The whole thing needs to be redone, and that comes with the additional sticker shock of having to deal with demolishing/replacing at least 3, maybe as many as 4 buildings right up on the stadium. And with AI2020 building a brand new Edge Center, the message from the athletic department was crystal clear: that's simply not in the cards for at least a decade. GT is playing one game a year in the Benz in part because it's roughly $10m in extra cash due to the much larger premium seating. If the math works out that strongly, they should just play entire seasons in the Benz whenever they finally get around to BDS.
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(06-20-2019 08:30 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Can you take back something you never actually had?

I'm old enough to remember the hordes of sidewalk fans after '90. ATL was GT #1 then. And it was several times before that as well.
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(06-20-2019 12:40 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 08:30 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Can you take back something you never actually had?

I'm old enough to remember the hordes of sidewalk fans after '90. ATL was GT #1 then. And it was several times before that as well.

I grew up in Kirkwood during that period of time. The minor prevalence GT had was already starting to wane from the championship season IMO. Now if Tech can string together multiple 9-10 wins season with victories over SEC teams, then they might be able to claw a portion of ATL back.
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(06-20-2019 12:38 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:59 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Forget Mercedes-Benz, a "404 Takeover" being real will be legit if/when Bobby Dodd Stadium isn't half (or more) red on November 30, 2019. Just being honest.

Hopefully, we will see a significant reduction in this scenario...

[Image: Bobby-Dodd-Stadium-Scott-Cunningham-Gett...ax8t2b.jpg]


That's reflective of the low confidence in the program in '15 when that was taken. New HC. New AD. New Pres. BDS itself is another kettle of fish. The West Stands don't meet current code in ATL so if you change anything you have to make it meet code. The Upper North was rushed to appease O'Leary and a mistake. There is a shockingly long waiting list for premium (box) seating. The whole thing needs to be redone, and that comes with the additional sticker shock of having to deal with demolishing/replacing at least 3, maybe as many as 4 buildings right up on the stadium. And with AI2020 building a brand new Edge Center, the message from the athletic department was crystal clear: that's simply not in the cards for at least a decade. GT is playing one game a year in the Benz in part because it's roughly $10m in extra cash due to the much larger premium seating. If the math works out that strongly, they should just play entire seasons in the Benz whenever they finally get around to BDS.

Clearly a mistake when that building needs to be moved from its current location entirely. That or Tech needs to build a a new football stadium somewhere else on campus.
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(06-20-2019 01:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Clearly a mistake when that building needs to be moved from its current location entirely. That or Tech needs to build a a new football stadium somewhere else on campus.

I really don't see another option short of $500,000,000 falling from the sky.
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Maybe they ought to tear down Bobby Dodd Stadium-Hugh Grant field and build an IPF/museum. Use one of the other football fields locally for permanent or temporary use.
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(06-20-2019 08:40 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 08:30 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Can you take back something you never actually had?

For starters, he didn't say take "back". He said take "over".

Second, back in the 50's (yes, 60+ years ago), Georgia Tech most definitely was the hottest ticket in Atlanta and the entire state of Georgia for that matter...and, decades prior to the 50's. Even in the 60's Tech FB was a much bigger player in the Atlanta scene, when Atlanta was much smaller.

To suggest otherwise using the word "never" is either utter ignorance and/or very poor understanding of the history of southern football especially when it comes to the city of Atlanta and state of Georgia.

I'll concede ignorance as my sports fandom only goes back to the 80's. That said I think GTFletch's point on the matter is quite salient; Tech initiated itself own marginalization by leaving the SEC. While my post was meant in levity I do think the Tech faces an uphill battle in trying to create T-shirt fans.
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(06-20-2019 03:26 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 01:51 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  Clearly a mistake when that building needs to be moved from its current location entirely. That or Tech needs to build a a new football stadium somewhere else on campus.

I really don't see another option short of $500,000,000 falling from the sky.

Hey, that's how the McCamish Pavilion got built, so never say never.04-cheers
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(06-20-2019 04:53 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 08:40 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 08:30 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2019 07:07 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  The 4️⃣0️⃣4️⃣ TAKEOVER is REAL!

Can you take back something you never actually had?

For starters, he didn't say take "back". He said take "over".

Second, back in the 50's (yes, 60+ years ago), Georgia Tech most definitely was the hottest ticket in Atlanta and the entire state of Georgia for that matter...and, decades prior to the 50's. Even in the 60's Tech FB was a much bigger player in the Atlanta scene, when Atlanta was much smaller.

To suggest otherwise using the word "never" is either utter ignorance and/or very poor understanding of the history of southern football especially when it comes to the city of Atlanta and state of Georgia.

I'll concede ignorance as my sports fandom only goes back to the 80's. That said I think GTFletch's point on the matter is quite salient; Tech initiated itself own marginalization by leaving the SEC. While my post was meant in levity I do think the Tech faces an uphill battle in trying to create T-shirt fans.

Actually, the "404 Takeover" is a Geoff Collins thing that he's been preaching since his return to Tech as HC. Back when Tech was the "in thing" 50-60 years ago, Atlanta was pretty much a GT-UGA battle for attention. Today, with Atlanta as large as it is and people more mobile than ever GT (and UGA as well) has to battle the 8+ major programs within a 4-hour drive radius.

Collins' approach makes sense. I think any head coach would agree if you can get your share of recruits out of the 404 zip code annually, you are (or at least should be) stacked with talent. It really makes you go 04-jawdrop when you consider UGA has dominated recruiting in the talent-rich state of GA for 40+ years and the last national title they can brag about is now approaching 40 years in the rear-view mirror.

I'm glad to see GT fans jacked back up about the program. Collins deserves a lot of credit. It will take many years of high-level winning to get back to consistent sellouts of a 55K stadium (with GT fans not Clemson or UGA filling the place up). 1990 was referenced. Great times of course. GT didn't sell out its available season tickets the following 1991 season (coming off a national title and returning a ton of talent). So, you never know. Too much of a roller coaster and lacking sustained success. 1990, national title. 4 years later, a 1-10 record. Crazy. The hiring of Bill Lewis and not giving the job to George O'Leary or Ralph Friedgen when Bobby Ross left after 1991 set GT FB back at least 5 years, perhaps more.

Side note, as far as Bobby Dodd Stadium goes, it isn't going anywhere and Tech will continue to play there. Many millions have been spent keeping the old gal alive, many more will be invested in the future, and Tech folks take a lot of pride in the moniker of the "oldest D1A stadium in the nation".
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