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I wish USM had hired Art Briles as OC...that would be a fun offense to watch and would get some eyes on USM football.
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(06-16-2019 09:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 12:58 PM)Noodles Wrote:  And if survival is all we can accomplish, at what point does it stop making sense?

Or go to a 5 game home schedule and sign to play Bama and Auburn every year.....

that will create around $3,500,000 after cost if S. Miss buses to the games ..both are paying 1.9 million to 2.2 million

The home game S. Miss is giving up will generate $350,000 to $500,000, maybe less after expenses.

30k x $26 avg = $780,000 then you have to pay the FCS team...$200 to 300k
25k X $26 ticket avg =$650,000

As I said it would be a lot easier playing 5 home games and 2 games for a huge check

Ive been saying this for years. Actually...Id prefer to go independent and have even more of this payday games a year. Sheesh, being in CUSA certainly isn't paying any dividends anymore.
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(06-17-2019 06:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 04:44 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  We are in an over-extended league that is underpaid for our services and following a failed model of success. We are on borrowed time. Give other lesser conferences credit. They played the game much better than we did and its pathetic in every aspect. Our CFP money is the lowest per team because we are 14 teams spread across 2/3rds of a continent. We should be 10 teams all in the same time zone or suing the hell out of the CFP for more money. This whole thing wreaks of miss-management and poor foresight. I say all that, but contend that we have better schools and a better product than the MAC or the Sunbelt which makes it even worse.

+1. Geographic realignment is right around the corner. The current model is too expensive to maintain for CUSA and the Sunbelt. We can continue to struggle as we are, but it isn't worth it.

I emailed the Rice Associate AD about five months ago concerning this topic. He responded by conceding that geographic realignment is coming in the near future, but stopped short of giving specifics.

Take it for what it's worth.

Everyone knows Rice wants a better situation for their program, but there are no options right now. Not saying your associate AD is lying to you. Just saying he didn't give you a time frame.

The Southwest Conference disbanded 23 years ago, and no major conferences have been beating on Rice's door. There probably isn't a P5 option for Rice, certainly not with their current level of success. The AAC could be an option, but only if Houston can muscle their way into a P5. Unfortunately, I doubt they can do that.
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(06-17-2019 07:13 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 09:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 12:58 PM)Noodles Wrote:  And if survival is all we can accomplish, at what point does it stop making sense?

Or go to a 5 game home schedule and sign to play Bama and Auburn every year.....

that will create around $3,500,000 after cost if S. Miss buses to the games ..both are paying 1.9 million to 2.2 million

The home game S. Miss is giving up will generate $350,000 to $500,000, maybe less after expenses.

30k x $26 avg = $780,000 then you have to pay the FCS team...$200 to 300k
25k X $26 ticket avg =$650,000

As I said it would be a lot easier playing 5 home games and 2 games for a huge check

Ive been saying this for years. Actually...Id prefer to go independent and have even more of this payday games a year. Sheesh, being in CUSA certainly isn't paying any dividends anymore.

Do you really think Southern Miss could survive as an independent?
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(06-17-2019 05:00 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 06:50 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Ecu is out of money, and they receive more tv funds.

Our TV deal pays ECU as much as your entire conference. We good.

Then why has Marshall had near $3 million total greater conference distributions in CUSA than ECU has had during their time in the AAC?

http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org...s/14a5709c
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I was just frustrated over the insane discrepancies, but you know what? USM has always survived with much less than everyone else. We won, too.
We'll figure it out.
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(06-17-2019 07:48 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:13 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 09:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 12:58 PM)Noodles Wrote:  And if survival is all we can accomplish, at what point does it stop making sense?

Or go to a 5 game home schedule and sign to play Bama and Auburn every year.....

that will create around $3,500,000 after cost if S. Miss buses to the games ..both are paying 1.9 million to 2.2 million

The home game S. Miss is giving up will generate $350,000 to $500,000, maybe less after expenses.

30k x $26 avg = $780,000 then you have to pay the FCS team...$200 to 300k
25k X $26 ticket avg =$650,000

As I said it would be a lot easier playing 5 home games and 2 games for a huge check

Ive been saying this for years. Actually...Id prefer to go independent and have even more of this payday games a year. Sheesh, being in CUSA certainly isn't paying any dividends anymore.

Do you really think Southern Miss could survive as an independent?

I do. Though I may be alone in that. We have enough historical and regional rivals that scheduling should be fine. Im just not sure how you deal with all the other sports outside of football. With football, we would make a LOT more money and save a lot on travel. Ticket sales would increase and it would give us more exposure (playing pay day games and regional games). Wouldn't have to be Indy forever.
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(06-17-2019 08:31 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:48 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:13 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 09:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 12:58 PM)Noodles Wrote:  And if survival is all we can accomplish, at what point does it stop making sense?

Or go to a 5 game home schedule and sign to play Bama and Auburn every year.....

that will create around $3,500,000 after cost if S. Miss buses to the games ..both are paying 1.9 million to 2.2 million

The home game S. Miss is giving up will generate $350,000 to $500,000, maybe less after expenses.

30k x $26 avg = $780,000 then you have to pay the FCS team...$200 to 300k
25k X $26 ticket avg =$650,000

As I said it would be a lot easier playing 5 home games and 2 games for a huge check

Ive been saying this for years. Actually...Id prefer to go independent and have even more of this payday games a year. Sheesh, being in CUSA certainly isn't paying any dividends anymore.

Do you really think Southern Miss could survive as an independent?

I do. Though I may be alone in that. We have enough historical and regional rivals that scheduling should be fine. Im just not sure how you deal with all the other sports outside of football. With football, we would make a LOT more money and save a lot on travel. Ticket sales would increase and it would give us more exposure (playing pay day games and regional games). Wouldn't have to be Indy forever.

Which historical and regional rivals would you fill your schedule with, and how is that going to line your pockets?
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(06-17-2019 06:42 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 04:44 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  We are in an over-extended league that is underpaid for our services and following a failed model of success. We are on borrowed time. Give other lesser conferences credit. They played the game much better than we did and its pathetic in every aspect. Our CFP money is the lowest per team because we are 14 teams spread across 2/3rds of a continent. We should be 10 teams all in the same time zone or suing the hell out of the CFP for more money. This whole thing wreaks of miss-management and poor foresight. I say all that, but contend that we have better schools and a better product than the MAC or the Sunbelt which makes it even worse.

+1. Geographic realignment is right around the corner. The current model is too expensive to maintain for CUSA and the Sunbelt. We can continue to struggle as we are, but it isn't worth it.

I emailed the Rice Associate AD about five months ago concerning this topic. He responded by conceding that geographic realignment is coming in the near future, but stopped short of giving specifics.

Take it for what it's worth.
Sun Belt doesn't really have an outlier. There's no reconfigured conference that would be a bus league and flying to Louisiana is the same as Texas same as Florida. Texas State would probably love to be with an additional Texas football school but they ain't raising pitchforks toward their admin to leave.

I don't have any concrete evidence to back it up, but I strongly suspect that Texas State, Louisiana, and ULM would jump at a chance to form a new conference with CUSA West members. Possibly ASU as well, but I honestly don't know.
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(06-17-2019 08:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 08:31 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:48 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:13 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 09:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Or go to a 5 game home schedule and sign to play Bama and Auburn every year.....

that will create around $3,500,000 after cost if S. Miss buses to the games ..both are paying 1.9 million to 2.2 million

The home game S. Miss is giving up will generate $350,000 to $500,000, maybe less after expenses.

30k x $26 avg = $780,000 then you have to pay the FCS team...$200 to 300k
25k X $26 ticket avg =$650,000

As I said it would be a lot easier playing 5 home games and 2 games for a huge check

Ive been saying this for years. Actually...Id prefer to go independent and have even more of this payday games a year. Sheesh, being in CUSA certainly isn't paying any dividends anymore.

Do you really think Southern Miss could survive as an independent?

I do. Though I may be alone in that. We have enough historical and regional rivals that scheduling should be fine. Im just not sure how you deal with all the other sports outside of football. With football, we would make a LOT more money and save a lot on travel. Ticket sales would increase and it would give us more exposure (playing pay day games and regional games). Wouldn't have to be Indy forever.

Which historical and regional rivals would you fill your schedule with, and how is that going to line your pockets?

I think former CUSA rivals like Memphis, ECU, Houston and Louisville would be beneficial to both schools and bring fans. Already have Tulane scheduled. When comparing them to UTSA, Old Dominion, Charlotte and other "new" CUSA opponents, those games would be much more desirable. Louisiana Laf, Troy (scheduled), Ark State and South Alabama would also bring more fans and draw more USM fans & interest. Keep some in state rivals /opponents scheduled (Ms. State, Jackson State) as well. Mix all that with a number of payday games with the SEC, ACC and others and we would be much better off. Can also keep UAB and La Tech scheduled some years.
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(06-17-2019 07:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 04:44 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  We are in an over-extended league that is underpaid for our services and following a failed model of success. We are on borrowed time. Give other lesser conferences credit. They played the game much better than we did and its pathetic in every aspect. Our CFP money is the lowest per team because we are 14 teams spread across 2/3rds of a continent. We should be 10 teams all in the same time zone or suing the hell out of the CFP for more money. This whole thing wreaks of miss-management and poor foresight. I say all that, but contend that we have better schools and a better product than the MAC or the Sunbelt which makes it even worse.

+1. Geographic realignment is right around the corner. The current model is too expensive to maintain for CUSA and the Sunbelt. We can continue to struggle as we are, but it isn't worth it.

I emailed the Rice Associate AD about five months ago concerning this topic. He responded by conceding that geographic realignment is coming in the near future, but stopped short of giving specifics.

Take it for what it's worth.

Everyone knows Rice wants a better situation for their program, but there are no options right now. Not saying your associate AD is lying to you. Just saying he didn't give you a time frame.

The Southwest Conference disbanded 23 years ago, and no major conferences have been beating on Rice's door. There probably isn't a P5 option for Rice, certainly not with their current level of success. The AAC could be an option, but only if Houston can muscle their way into a P5. Unfortunately, I doubt they can do that.

No, Rice definitely isn't moving "up" to anywhere. I think he's referring to a realignment with area Sunbelt members and/or AAC private school leftovers if that conference falls apart in a few years. Anyway, this is a TV thread. Not looking to change the subject
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(06-17-2019 08:31 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:48 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:13 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 09:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 12:58 PM)Noodles Wrote:  And if survival is all we can accomplish, at what point does it stop making sense?

Or go to a 5 game home schedule and sign to play Bama and Auburn every year.....

that will create around $3,500,000 after cost if S. Miss buses to the games ..both are paying 1.9 million to 2.2 million

The home game S. Miss is giving up will generate $350,000 to $500,000, maybe less after expenses.

30k x $26 avg = $780,000 then you have to pay the FCS team...$200 to 300k
25k X $26 ticket avg =$650,000

As I said it would be a lot easier playing 5 home games and 2 games for a huge check

Ive been saying this for years. Actually...Id prefer to go independent and have even more of this payday games a year. Sheesh, being in CUSA certainly isn't paying any dividends anymore.

Do you really think Southern Miss could survive as an independent?

I do. Though I may be alone in that. We have enough historical and regional rivals that scheduling should be fine. Im just not sure how you deal with all the other sports outside of football. With football, we would make a LOT more money and save a lot on travel. Ticket sales would increase and it would give us more exposure (playing pay day games and regional games). Wouldn't have to be Indy forever.

Liberty and NMSU are so desperate to fill their schedules that they play each other twice. Independence would be hell for anyone not named Army or BYU. Even BYU has a scheduling agreement with the MWC. Army's schedule is usually very weak. And like you said, what to do with Olympic sports?
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(06-17-2019 09:31 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 08:31 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:48 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 07:13 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(06-16-2019 09:39 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Or go to a 5 game home schedule and sign to play Bama and Auburn every year.....

that will create around $3,500,000 after cost if S. Miss buses to the games ..both are paying 1.9 million to 2.2 million

The home game S. Miss is giving up will generate $350,000 to $500,000, maybe less after expenses.

30k x $26 avg = $780,000 then you have to pay the FCS team...$200 to 300k
25k X $26 ticket avg =$650,000

As I said it would be a lot easier playing 5 home games and 2 games for a huge check

Ive been saying this for years. Actually...Id prefer to go independent and have even more of this payday games a year. Sheesh, being in CUSA certainly isn't paying any dividends anymore.

Do you really think Southern Miss could survive as an independent?

I do. Though I may be alone in that. We have enough historical and regional rivals that scheduling should be fine. Im just not sure how you deal with all the other sports outside of football. With football, we would make a LOT more money and save a lot on travel. Ticket sales would increase and it would give us more exposure (playing pay day games and regional games). Wouldn't have to be Indy forever.

Liberty and NMSU are so desperate to fill their schedules that they play each other twice.

Perfect, we can add them to the mix if we needed. We still make 20xs the money by playing Auburn, Florida St, Va Tech, South Carolina, etc., for 3-6 games of the year, coupled with the regional rivals.
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Think whatever you want but both So Miss and Marshall could survive as Independents.

At the very least we would fill up the rest of our schedule with teams from the MAC/Sun Belt/CUSA.

Having said that I would rather see a new 10 team conference formed from CUSA/Sun Belt.
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(06-17-2019 09:07 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:42 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 04:44 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  We are in an over-extended league that is underpaid for our services and following a failed model of success. We are on borrowed time. Give other lesser conferences credit. They played the game much better than we did and its pathetic in every aspect. Our CFP money is the lowest per team because we are 14 teams spread across 2/3rds of a continent. We should be 10 teams all in the same time zone or suing the hell out of the CFP for more money. This whole thing wreaks of miss-management and poor foresight. I say all that, but contend that we have better schools and a better product than the MAC or the Sunbelt which makes it even worse.

+1. Geographic realignment is right around the corner. The current model is too expensive to maintain for CUSA and the Sunbelt. We can continue to struggle as we are, but it isn't worth it.

I emailed the Rice Associate AD about five months ago concerning this topic. He responded by conceding that geographic realignment is coming in the near future, but stopped short of giving specifics.

Take it for what it's worth.
Sun Belt doesn't really have an outlier. There's no reconfigured conference that would be a bus league and flying to Louisiana is the same as Texas same as Florida. Texas State would probably love to be with an additional Texas football school but they ain't raising pitchforks toward their admin to leave.

I don't have any concrete evidence to back it up, but I strongly suspect that Texas State, Louisiana, and ULM would jump at a chance to form a new conference with CUSA West members. Possibly ASU as well, but I honestly don't know.

You can take Tech, UAB and S.Miss out from the jump. Not only would they say no but hell no to a conference of ULM, ULL, Texas St and CUSA West.

Ark St has their eyes on the Big12. Ask them.
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(06-17-2019 10:36 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Think whatever you want but both So Miss and Marshall could survive as Independents.

At the very least we would fill up the rest of our schedule with teams from the MAC/Sun Belt/CUSA.

Having said that I would rather see a new 10 team conference formed from CUSA/Sun Belt.

It would be a lot harder than you think.

No bowl game
No fighting for a conference championship
Neither school has the money to buy games
No conference money counting NCAA and football that's over 3 million a year
Keeping a football or basketball coach would be very hard
As for playing 3 or 4 money games as the S. Miss fan said....you have to have I believe 5 home games each year

What happens to the Olympic sports? Especially basketball because neither schools has a good enough history that a FCS conference would take you basketball only. Not unless they needed a member.
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(06-17-2019 10:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 09:07 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:42 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 04:44 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  We are in an over-extended league that is underpaid for our services and following a failed model of success. We are on borrowed time. Give other lesser conferences credit. They played the game much better than we did and its pathetic in every aspect. Our CFP money is the lowest per team because we are 14 teams spread across 2/3rds of a continent. We should be 10 teams all in the same time zone or suing the hell out of the CFP for more money. This whole thing wreaks of miss-management and poor foresight. I say all that, but contend that we have better schools and a better product than the MAC or the Sunbelt which makes it even worse.

+1. Geographic realignment is right around the corner. The current model is too expensive to maintain for CUSA and the Sunbelt. We can continue to struggle as we are, but it isn't worth it.

I emailed the Rice Associate AD about five months ago concerning this topic. He responded by conceding that geographic realignment is coming in the near future, but stopped short of giving specifics.

Take it for what it's worth.
Sun Belt doesn't really have an outlier. There's no reconfigured conference that would be a bus league and flying to Louisiana is the same as Texas same as Florida. Texas State would probably love to be with an additional Texas football school but they ain't raising pitchforks toward their admin to leave.

I don't have any concrete evidence to back it up, but I strongly suspect that Texas State, Louisiana, and ULM would jump at a chance to form a new conference with CUSA West members. Possibly ASU as well, but I honestly don't know.

You can take Tech, UAB and S.Miss out from the jump. Not only would they say no but hell no to a conference of ULM, ULL, Texas St and CUSA West.

Ark St has their eyes on the Big12. Ask them.

Of the Sunbelt schools I mentioned, only ULM is considered "undesirable" by anyone in CUSA West, and any opposition would come primarily from Louisiana Tech. The Redhawk's could well be left out. No big deal. It happens. Their budget is tiny. The other three bring almost the same value as anyone in CUSA East, and without all the travel. Only Marshall is head and shoulders above the rest of you.
USM has scheduled Tulane, so they may want to be connected to Louisiana more than anyone thinks. They have large alumni numbers in Louisiana and Texas, as does LTU.
UAB could do whatever they wanted as far as I'm concerned. That's an eastern school that probably belongs "east." I don't think anyone over here would be heartbroken if they weren't part of any new "southwestern-based" conference. It's a good school, but just doesn't belong "west" if you ask me.
As far as ASU is concerned, I didn't sense any sarcasm in your comment about them having their eye on the BIG12, but I hope that was a joke.
Don't get me wrong. I think CUSA West members would be a little more excited about the prospect of taking in Tulane, SMU, and Tulsa if the AAC falls apart, but the area Sunbelt schools aren't so much a step below us that they would be scoffed at if "Plan A" didn't work out.
It all depends on what happens to the BIG12 in three years. That will determine to a large degree what happens to the rest of us.
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(06-17-2019 11:48 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 10:45 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 09:07 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:42 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(06-17-2019 06:32 PM)Ourland Wrote:  +1. Geographic realignment is right around the corner. The current model is too expensive to maintain for CUSA and the Sunbelt. We can continue to struggle as we are, but it isn't worth it.

I emailed the Rice Associate AD about five months ago concerning this topic. He responded by conceding that geographic realignment is coming in the near future, but stopped short of giving specifics.

Take it for what it's worth.
Sun Belt doesn't really have an outlier. There's no reconfigured conference that would be a bus league and flying to Louisiana is the same as Texas same as Florida. Texas State would probably love to be with an additional Texas football school but they ain't raising pitchforks toward their admin to leave.

I don't have any concrete evidence to back it up, but I strongly suspect that Texas State, Louisiana, and ULM would jump at a chance to form a new conference with CUSA West members. Possibly ASU as well, but I honestly don't know.

You can take Tech, UAB and S.Miss out from the jump. Not only would they say no but hell no to a conference of ULM, ULL, Texas St and CUSA West.

Ark St has their eyes on the Big12. Ask them.

Of the Sunbelt schools I mentioned, only ULM is considered "undesirable" by anyone in CUSA West, and any opposition would come primarily from Louisiana Tech. The Redhawk's could well be left out. No big deal. It happens. Their budget is tiny. The other three bring almost the same value as anyone in CUSA East, and without all the travel. Only Marshall is head and shoulders above the rest of you.
USM has scheduled Tulane, so they may want to be connected to Louisiana more than anyone thinks. They have large alumni numbers in Louisiana and Texas, as does LTU.
UAB could do whatever they wanted as far as I'm concerned. That's an eastern school that probably belongs "east." I don't think anyone over here would be heartbroken if they weren't part of any new "southwestern-based" conference. It's a good school, but just doesn't belong "west" if you ask me.
As far as ASU is concerned, I didn't sense any sarcasm in your comment about them having their eye on the BIG12, but I hope that was a joke.
Don't get me wrong. I think CUSA West members would be a little more excited about the prospect of taking in Tulane, SMU, and Tulsa if the AAC falls apart, but the area Sunbelt schools aren't so much a step below us that they would be scoffed at if "Plan A" didn't work out.
It all depends on what happens to the BIG12 in three years. That will determine to a large degree what happens to the rest of us.

Of the teams you mentioned, only Arkansas State sounds like a good option, but they're under the delusion they can get a spot in the AAC. ULL, ULM, and Texas State, are not an option in my book. I'd rather stay with the current C-USA line-up. Personally, I don't believe most C-USA program desire a realignment with the Sun Belt. I know I don't.
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I don't think it would be anyone's most desirable option, but I can see how the financial squeeze could make it much more palatable in the future.
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RE: How long can we survive with no TV money?
Until more people jump at Independence, the late season schedule will be filled with Liberty, NMSU, and UMASS as all the other teams will be playing their conference schedule. There's usually one open date interspersed late in the year for a non-conference opponent per team but that's it. It's not about getting those attractive games versus teams not in CUSA if you leave, it's about getting them late in October and November.

Aside from football scheduling you'll be walking away from @ 1.5-2 million a year in CFP and TV revenue from being in the conference. That's not earth shattering money but every bit helps if you're on a tight budget.

Lastly your baseball team would have to leave a pretty good conference, and while CUSA has been a one bid basketball league it is likely more attractive than where you'd need to park it.

Now it's getting closer to being feasible especially if a couple more schools in the region become Independent, but we're not to the point where that is the best option for any of us (yet).
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