(08-22-2019 11:44 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  No ACC team is bad. I'm not a huge fan of this schedule as is. I'm hoping something fell through because I can't understand why we'd be waiting on this.

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Syracuse was all but a done deal until Tony Shaver was fired.

(08-22-2019 11:38 AM)Tribeheart Wrote:  So, 3 home, 1 neutral, and 8 away games for OOC. D3 doesn't count. Quite a step back from last year's upgrade. No killer teams, but sure hope they will be ready to play very, very hard on the road. Hard to justify a season ticket increase this year.

Glad to see Nate get a game back in his home state.

Next year then should have High Point, American, Buffalo and Fairfield at home. We have got to improve our scheduling with regional teams of interest. That may be of benefit to next year's young team, but does nothing for the Tribe home base interest.

Hampton was listed incorrectly the second time on twitter.

I'm not sure Buffalo would be a H/H, they were a top 25 team last year.

My reaction to this year's schedule is polar opposite to my reaction to last year's schedule. I'm disappointed that Nate won't be playing in the Carrier Dome and that the home OCC is more limited than the last couple of years.

Strange that we didn't release the conference schedule with it, since that should already be set.

(08-22-2019 02:07 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  I'm not sure Buffalo would be a H/H, they were a top 25 team last year.

They have scheduled home and home games with Drexel and Delaware in the last five seasons. Would hope we are just a continuation of their pairing up with a CAA team. They will not be Top 25 this year.

(08-22-2019 01:47 PM)Prestige Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 11:44 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  No ACC team is bad. I'm not a huge fan of this schedule as is. I'm hoping something fell through because I can't understand why we'd be waiting on this.

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Syracuse was all but a done deal until Tony Shaver was fired.

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense on the surface. Why would they only host us if Shaver was the coach? Is it that Shaver would have pulled some strings to make it happen and the rest of the administration doesn't have the respect/stature/etc. to do the same? Syracuse does not view W&M as a competitive OOC game or anything other than early season schedule filler, why would they care who the coach was?

(08-22-2019 05:08 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 01:47 PM)Prestige Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 11:44 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  No ACC team is bad. I'm not a huge fan of this schedule as is. I'm hoping something fell through because I can't understand why we'd be waiting on this.

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Syracuse was all but a done deal until Tony Shaver was fired.

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense on the surface. Why would they only host us if Shaver was the coach? Is it that Shaver would have pulled some strings to make it happen and the rest of the administration doesn't have the respect/stature/etc. to do the same? Syracuse does not view W&M as a competitive OOC game or anything other than early season schedule filler, why would they care who the coach was?

William & Mary would have been a very respectable OOC game before all of the player departures. When the outlook for the season changed, it became tougher to keep W&M on the schedule knowing that it could tank their strength of schedule. I imagine that had something to do with it.

(08-22-2019 05:39 PM)Prestige Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 05:08 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 01:47 PM)Prestige Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 11:44 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  No ACC team is bad. I'm not a huge fan of this schedule as is. I'm hoping something fell through because I can't understand why we'd be waiting on this.

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Syracuse was all but a done deal until Tony Shaver was fired.

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense on the surface. Why would they only host us if Shaver was the coach? Is it that Shaver would have pulled some strings to make it happen and the rest of the administration doesn't have the respect/stature/etc. to do the same? Syracuse does not view W&M as a competitive OOC game or anything other than early season schedule filler, why would they care who the coach was?

William & Mary would have been a very respectable OOC game before all of the player departures. When the outlook for the season changed, it became tougher to keep W&M on the schedule knowing that it could tank their strength of schedule. I imagine that had something to do with it.

An ACC team has never scheduled William & Mary with any regard for strength of schedule. What you're proposing is that Syracuse was prepared to schedule a game with William & Mary, and after Tony Shaver was fired they instead scheduled Colgate, Niagra, Oakland, or North Florida? This is also assuming that there were talks last season that had not been finalized at the time Coach Shaver was fired, which was immediately after our season was over and before Syracuse's season was over.

(08-22-2019 02:43 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  Strange that we didn't release the conference schedule with it, since that should already be set.

As I understand it, we don't get any break when the CAA schedule starts. We have either 3 straight road games or 3 of the first 4 on the road. I know the first two league games are on the road and I think we start with three straight roadies. So, add that to the total number of road games in the early season.

So, pretty much, 11 of the first 15 games (potentially) on the road. They will definitely have to bring it away from home.

It doesn't matter who we play, where we play, or when we play. Let's appreciate that we have staff, a team in place, and support them throughout what will surely be an interesting season. I'm glad we have a schedule...go get'em, boys.

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Also, 2 of the road/non home games are in DC. While the players still have to travel, those should be pro Tribe crowds (Even the AU game), and probably an easier trek for a decent portion of our alumni base.

Was is it in DC that folks were showing ads for W&M football on local buses?

Probably not likely but I wonder if there is any chance we have decided to take advantage of our large alumni base in No. Va. and are trying to establish a presence there?

Desperately clutching at straws here.

The DC games are a really smart move - our biggest alumni base and a really good way to increase interest. We should play at least one game in the DC area every year and ideally two (Towson doesn't quite count).

The DC games are great, but I'm bummed about the St. Francis one as I'll be visiting my in-laws in the tidewater area for Christmas and that's my only chance to see a game. Fingers crossed we're at home for those first conference games at the very end of December.

(08-22-2019 06:09 PM)billymac Wrote:  

(08-22-2019 02:43 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  Strange that we didn't release the conference schedule with it, since that should already be set.

As I understand it, we don't get any break when the CAA schedule starts. We have either 3 straight road games or 3 of the first 4 on the road. I know the first two league games are on the road and I think we start with three straight roadies. So, add that to the total number of road games in the early season.

So, pretty much, 11 of the first 15 games (potentially) on the road. They will definitely have to bring it away from home.

We know the CAA schedule for Northeastern as it is on their website for about a week. They begin league play 12/28 and 12/30 and it shows our traveling partner again to be Elon. We know we play NE and Hofstra on 1/2 and 1/4. Seems likely we have games at home therefore 12/28 and 12/30.

I realize the CAA has not announced the MBB schedule but clearly it is set for NE. Comical that we go thru this drill each year.

Our home OCC is pathetically weak and shows no commitment to the claimed desire to build a NCAA program since the foundation to achieve that is scheduling more home games and paying schools to come here.

Hopefully with more time Dane will be able to use his relationships to improve the schedule for 2020-21 as he builds his version of MBB.

Ditto to needing more in State games that are scheduled plus we are due a slot in the Charleston Classic


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(08-23-2019 03:57 AM)wmmii Wrote:  Our home OCC is pathetically weak and shows no commitment to the claimed desire to build a NCAA program since the foundation to achieve that is scheduling more home games and paying schools to come here.

I don't think this is necessarily true. Certainly some years, especially ones in which we have a very strong team with an outside shot at an at large NCAA or NIT berth if everything breaks exactly right, home games against quality teams are very important. But this year is a rebuilding year and playing on the road a lot could be very good experience for a young team. I don't know that playing a few extra home games markedly changes how this team grows in the non-conference, and the road heavy slate could actually prepare them better for conference play.

(08-23-2019 08:30 AM)Tribe2011 Wrote:  

(08-23-2019 03:57 AM)wmmii Wrote:  Our home OCC is pathetically weak and shows no commitment to the claimed desire to build a NCAA program since the foundation to achieve that is scheduling more home games and paying schools to come here.

I don't think this is necessarily true. Certainly some years, especially ones in which we have a very strong team with an outside shot at an at large NCAA or NIT berth if everything breaks exactly right, home games against quality teams are very important. But this year is a rebuilding year and playing on the road a lot could be very good experience for a young team. I don't know that playing a few extra home games markedly changes how this team grows in the non-conference, and the road heavy slate could actually prepare them better for conference play.

Wmmii was talking program; you're talking team. Sometimes, there are differences.

I will only say this.

No Saturday home games in the OOC.

No Thanksgiving Saturday home game.

I think both are essential for the program, long-term.

This year's OOC schedule is a "step back", program-wise.

Having said that, there's only one Saturday game on the whole OOC schedule. Is this the new normal in college basketball?

To me this schedule says there are no expectations for the team this season. You don't schedule this many road games if you are trying to build chemistry and momentum with what is an almost completely new team and coaching staff.

The only game i got to attend last season was at Elon, but opening at High Point means I get to witness the first game of the post tony shaver era.

I hope it is nothing like the Tribe's last trip to High Point, that was an unreal butt whooping put on a by a not great Panthers squad.

(08-23-2019 09:39 AM)nj alum Wrote:  I will only say this.

No Saturday home games in the OOC.

No Thanksgiving Saturday home game.

I think both are essential for the program, long-term.

This year's OOC schedule is a "step back", program-wise.

Having said that, there's only one Saturday game on the whole OOC schedule. Is this the new normal in college basketball?

NJ,

I believe that some of the no Saturday games were done to (1) create a "Weekend long Event", 11/15 vs Hampton, where there is a MBB game on Friday and a FB game (URI) on Saturday and (2) the AU game 11/8 was put on Friday to avoid conflict with the 11/9 FB game (Towson), figuring that NVa area alums could go to the AU game Friday night, then drive to the 'burg on Sat.

For the rest, I don't know...

Towson is the 16th ... Senior Day.

Moving the MBB to Friday night makes sense in a lot of ways ...

But a FB/MBB doubleheader on 11/16 also makes sense, as well.

In today's world, I'm not sure there's much of a difference between Friday night and Saturday night (although the college seems to like late Saturday afternoon), but if MBB / Dance ticket are your deal ... Saturdays are better.