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(05-26-2019 07:17 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Ga Tech goes for its 10th ACC title. Currently, Clemson leads the ACC with 10 titles so GT has a chance to tie it.

Both team's pitching depth will be tested today. UNC may have punched a ticket to host a regional by making the championship game. I certainly think the Tar Heels will do so if they win today.

I haven't been able to find a box score for Carolina's game against BC. I was curious how long that game lasted. Seemed like forever, which is basically why I've stopped watching baseball. I can check in every hour or so and find out everything I need. I understand one inning yesterday lasted 55 minutes. That's painful.
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(05-26-2019 08:00 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(05-26-2019 07:17 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Ga Tech goes for its 10th ACC title. Currently, Clemson leads the ACC with 10 titles so GT has a chance to tie it.

Both team's pitching depth will be tested today. UNC may have punched a ticket to host a regional by making the championship game. I certainly think the Tar Heels will do so if they win today.

I haven't been able to find a box score for Carolina's game against BC. I was curious how long that game lasted. Seemed like forever, which is basically why I've stopped watching baseball. I can check in every hour or so and find out everything I need. I understand one inning yesterday lasted 55 minutes. That's painful.

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Too many consecutive road games, and really missed not having two starting pitchers available due to injury.

I gotta say the attendance was kinda disappointing from the games I saw. I thought the entire reason it was in Durham was with three teams right there any game with the locals would sell out. Most of the games I watched (and GT did play all three triangle teams) the stands were mostly empty outside the shaded areas.
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Congratulations to the Tar Heels. Their 8th ACC title. I think they just slam dunked their getting a hosting of a regional next week. I'm hopeful the committee looks at the full body of work and gives the Canes a regional as well.

GT should be a national seed. The Jackets have a strong resume' and a 3-1 week in Durham should be viewed positively. UofL is right on the national seed bubble.
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(05-26-2019 02:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Too many consecutive road games, and really missed not having two starting pitchers available due to injury.

I gotta say the attendance was kinda disappointing from the games I saw. I thought the entire reason it was in Durham was with three teams right there any game with the locals would sell out. Most of the games I watched (and GT did play all three triangle teams) the stands were mostly empty outside the shaded areas.

I agree. 4,200 for a semifinal game involving Carolina? Pretty weak. Were previous tournaments in Durham better attended than this one? Announcers were bemoaning the International League's decision to not make the venue available to the ACC in the future. But if attendance is going to be weak, what does it matter where it's held?

If one reason for the format change was to facilitate travel plans for teams outside the area, it didn't seem to lure many of those fans. Just the diehards, I'm guessing by all those empty seats.
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People in Durham can see ACC teams play any time they want year round. Take the baseball tournament somewhere in the footprint where that isn't true and you'll be more successful (and, frankly, more fair to the teams). It should be that way for probably every non-FB/MBB championship unless it's so unpopular that the cost of renting the venue exceeds the revenues ... at that point have it on campus of the highest ranked seed.

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Sorry, but I remember first hand the attendance in Salem VA and Jacksonville FL. They were embarrassing.

I like it in Durham, but if that is not going to be able to happen per recent reports moving forward, I wish they would consider moving it to Charlotte or Gwinnett (Atlanta suburbs). Greensboro can still be an option as well.
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(05-26-2019 03:51 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Sorry, but I remember first hand the attendance in Salem VA and Jacksonville FL. They were embarrassing.

I like it in Durham, but if that is not going to be able to happen per recent reports moving forward, I wish they would consider moving it to Charlotte or Gwinnett (Atlanta suburbs). Greensboro can still be an option as well.


Jacksonville, FL is a SEC city. Salem, VA may be too far out of the way for road travel. Greenville, Charlotte, Greensboro, Myrtle Beach are the best candidates. Asheville would do better than many people think I would imagine.
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(05-26-2019 04:41 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(05-26-2019 03:51 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Sorry, but I remember first hand the attendance in Salem VA and Jacksonville FL. They were embarrassing.

I like it in Durham, but if that is not going to be able to happen per recent reports moving forward, I wish they would consider moving it to Charlotte or Gwinnett (Atlanta suburbs). Greensboro can still be an option as well.


Jacksonville, FL is a SEC city. Salem, VA may be too far out of the way for road travel. Greenville, Charlotte, Greensboro, Myrtle Beach are the best candidates. Asheville would do better than many people think I would imagine.

The tournaments in the late 80's in Greenville were fantastic. Clemson fans filled the place. Ga Tech folks drove 2 hours up I-85, Carolina and Pack fans in the Charlotte area drove 2 hours down I-85. Would love if they'd go back there again. Conference was much smaller and compact back then. Maryland and Virginia cared way more about their lacrosse teams back then too as their baseball teams were a joke. Still...good times indeed.
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(05-26-2019 06:55 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  
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(05-26-2019 03:51 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Sorry, but I remember first hand the attendance in Salem VA and Jacksonville FL. They were embarrassing.

I like it in Durham, but if that is not going to be able to happen per recent reports moving forward, I wish they would consider moving it to Charlotte or Gwinnett (Atlanta suburbs). Greensboro can still be an option as well.


Jacksonville, FL is a SEC city. Salem, VA may be too far out of the way for road travel. Greenville, Charlotte, Greensboro, Myrtle Beach are the best candidates. Asheville would do better than many people think I would imagine.

The tournaments in the late 80's in Greenville were fantastic. Clemson fans filled the place. Ga Tech folks drove 2 hours up I-85, Carolina and Pack fans in the Charlotte area drove 2 hours down I-85. Would love if they'd go back there again. Conference was much smaller and compact back then. Maryland and Virginia cared way more about their lacrosse teams back then too as their baseball teams were a joke. Still...good times indeed.

Those are all good choices, including Asheville. The DBAP is an iconic ballpark. But if few people outside the local area are experiencing its "iconic-ness", there are a lot of venues that would enjoy great local support and provide a more neutral appearing choice for such a widespread conference. Let's give some of them a shot.
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Didn't the ACC once have eyes set on playing a tournament at Fenway? If so, whatever happened to that?
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As expected, GT, UofL, and UNC have been selected as regional hosts...

https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/artic...tournament

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The 16 regional sites, with host institutions and records are as follows:

• Athens, Georgia – Georgia (44-15)
• Atlanta, Georgia – Georgia Tech (41-17)
• Baton Rouge, Louisiana – LSU (37-24)
• Chapel Hill, North Carolina – North Carolina (42-17)
• Corvallis, Oregon – Oregon St. (36-18-1)
• Fayetteville, Arkansas – Arkansas (41-17)
• Greenville, North Carolina – East Carolina (43-15)
• Los Angeles, California – UCLA (47-8)
• Louisville, Kentucky – Louisville (43-15)
• Lubbock, Texas – Texas Tech (39-17)
• Morgantown, West Virginia – West Virginia (37-20)
• Nashville, Tennessee – Vanderbilt (49-10)
• Oxford, Mississippi – Ole Miss (37-25)
• Stanford, California – Stanford (41-11)
• Starkville, Mississippi – Mississippi St. (46-13)
• Stillwater, Oklahoma – Oklahoma St. (35-18)
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(05-26-2019 07:51 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  As expected, GT, UofL, and UNC have been selected as regional hosts...

https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/artic...tournament

Full list...

The 16 regional sites, with host institutions and records are as follows:

• Athens, Georgia – Georgia (44-15)
• Atlanta, Georgia – Georgia Tech (41-17)
• Baton Rouge, Louisiana – LSU (37-24)
• Chapel Hill, North Carolina – North Carolina (42-17)
• Corvallis, Oregon – Oregon St. (36-18-1)
• Fayetteville, Arkansas – Arkansas (41-17)
• Greenville, North Carolina – East Carolina (43-15)
• Los Angeles, California – UCLA (47-8)
• Louisville, Kentucky – Louisville (43-15)
• Lubbock, Texas – Texas Tech (39-17)
• Morgantown, West Virginia – West Virginia (37-20)
• Nashville, Tennessee – Vanderbilt (49-10)
• Oxford, Mississippi – Ole Miss (37-25)
• Stanford, California – Stanford (41-11)
• Starkville, Mississippi – Mississippi St. (46-13)
• Stillwater, Oklahoma – Oklahoma St. (35-18)

For those keeping score at home that's:

SEC 6
ACC 3
B12 3
PAC 3
AAC 1
B1G 0
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Myrtle Beach would be a great spot for the ACC tournament. Easy to get there, plenty of hotels and that area is baseball country.
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The ACC announced this morning that the 2020 ACC Baseball Tournament will be held in Charlotte. I like that choice. Central location where a lot of the conference can go to relatively easy.
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(05-30-2019 10:19 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  The ACC announced this morning that the 2020 ACC Baseball Tournament will be held in Charlotte. I like that choice. Central location where a lot of the conference can go to relatively easy.

AND a lot more neutral than Durham...
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(05-30-2019 10:19 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  The ACC announced this morning that the 2020 ACC Baseball Tournament will be held in Charlotte. I like that choice. Central location where a lot of the conference can go to relatively easy.

Don't Charlotte and Louisville have the same problem Durham does? I thought it was the International League that told the Bulls they couldn't commit dates to the ACC tournament.
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(05-30-2019 01:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-30-2019 10:19 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  The ACC announced this morning that the 2020 ACC Baseball Tournament will be held in Charlotte. I like that choice. Central location where a lot of the conference can go to relatively easy.

AND a lot more neutral than Durham...
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What, you mean you don't think it's the best setup to play 3 out of your 4 conference tournament games on the road, one literally in the other team's home park?

It's a nice park. It has a lot of history. But the locals don't deliver on attendance enough to make it worthwhile to put up with the downsides. If every game with Duke/NCST/UNC was a sellout the league would have a point. UNC couldn't sell out the title game against GT. NCST couldn't sell out the semifinal game against GT. And Duke had almost nobody for their literal home game against GT.
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(05-30-2019 03:01 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(05-30-2019 01:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-30-2019 10:19 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  The ACC announced this morning that the 2020 ACC Baseball Tournament will be held in Charlotte. I like that choice. Central location where a lot of the conference can go to relatively easy.

AND a lot more neutral than Durham...
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What, you mean you don't think it's the best setup to play 3 out of your 4 conference tournament games on the road, one literally in the other team's home park?

It's a nice park. It has a lot of history. But the locals don't deliver on attendance enough to make it worthwhile to put up with the downsides. If every game with Duke/NCST/UNC was a sellout the league would have a point. UNC couldn't sell out the title game against GT. NCST couldn't sell out the semifinal game against GT. And Duke had almost nobody for their literal home game against GT.

There is a common denominator.
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(05-30-2019 03:19 PM)XLance Wrote:  There is a common denominator.

You're right, all three local NC teams stunk it up in attendance in Durham. NC State vs Wake Forest got a recorded attendance of 4,300 in the box score. That's more than half empty, and assuming they counted the turnstiles instead of tickets sold.
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