(05-06-2019 07:45 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 07:08 PM)Potomac Wrote:  This is a helpful article from Madia that goes into a bit more detail on the FloSports deal after he spoke with JMU representatives.

http://www.dnronline.com/dnronline/under...13bc7.html

D’Antonio has to be redundant by continually saying “linear” before TV/television.

This sucks for me. Only JMU sport I watch is football (outside of rarely catching another sport on TV). Games I’m missing:
Sept:
-Morgan St (Should be only home game I miss). Planned on watching on Madizone for free. Not paying $30 to watch 1 game. Maybe I’ll be able to listen to the Madizone audio. Will that still be available? If not, I’ll check scores the next morning to see how much JMU blowed out Morgan St by.
-@ UTC -aren’t all So-Con games on ESPN3, or is that only conference games?

Oct:
@ SBU & @ W&M. If one of those is on TV, or if I’m at work for at least one, I’m not paying $30 to watch the other one online on FloSports. It would be audio if possible.

WSVA 5500AM = Madison audio (I think). WSVA can be streamed.

I'll give you the score now. JMU 88 Morganhead State 0.

(05-06-2019 08:00 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  It appears that some of the allure here is the fact that unlike an espn who would own all rights this deal keeps the linear rights with the CAA.

Joey D made sure to drive that point home as a top attraction to the league when evaluating an option. ESPN would probably require we not have a tv relationship with any competitors (RSNs or other streaming options like MadiZone). They have the clout to make you sign away all of your broadcast rights and Joey doesn’t seem to like that.

(05-06-2019 08:37 PM)DooX Wrote:  It isn't spelled out if this package includes non-conference games. For FB, 12 teams playing an 8 game conference schedule comes to 48 games. If it's only for conference games, then they may have just rounded up to 50 for the press release. Or if it includes non-conference, assume 2 home games per school, which gets to 72 total games. If that's the case then more than 2/3rds of the games will fall under the package.

If they end up offering it for 12.50 per month (no commitment), then one could start the package in the 3rd or 4th week of September and use it for two months, just enough to capture the CAA schedule. Getting decent streaming access (which remains to be seen) to all CAA games, including JMU road games, for $25 is something I might jump on. Road game viewing options always seem to be a crap shoot.

Keep in mind these will be school produced feeds distributed by flosports, not their own productions. URI’s feed will continue to be the same crap feed it’s always been.

(05-06-2019 09:31 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Keep in mind these will be school produced feeds distributed by flosports, not their own productions. URI’s feed will continue to be the same crap feed it’s always been.

I figured that camera options and viewing angles will still suck for some schools, but having a one stop shop for all games that provides a consistent non-stuttering stream (hopefully) might be worth the cost. We'll see.

(05-06-2019 07:46 PM)Oldduke Wrote:  TV 3 (Harrisonburg) at 6 pm had a poll asking if JMU fans would purchase a subscription to this and the result (at 6 pm) was 94% NO; 6% YES.

Admittedly early, but not a good first impression.

If the CAA/JMU and FloSports were smart, they would roll out a big promotion in August offering a decent discount for those that sign up during that month. With JMU's social media footprint, that would be an easy sell. Don't know about the rest of the CAA, but don't really care either.

Means they will go to the game instead which is better.

(05-06-2019 09:28 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 08:00 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  It appears that some of the allure here is the fact that unlike an espn who would own all rights this deal keeps the linear rights with the CAA.

Joey D made sure to drive that point home as a top attraction to the league when evaluating an option. ESPN would probably require we not have a tv relationship with any competitors (RSNs or other streaming options like MadiZone). They have the clout to make you sign away all of your broadcast rights and Joey doesn’t seem to like that.

It would seem that Bourne’s desire to keep “linear TV” options open is what drove this, not Joey D.

I think you have to wait and see what the streaming and tv schedule looks like for football and basketball before judging the flo sports deal. It’s part of a bigger media rights package. Seems underwhelming at the moment but it may be relatively better than what they have had.

Sinclair just bought all of the Fox RSNs so that plus Stadium could be a part of all this.

(05-07-2019 06:38 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Sinclair just bought all of the Fox RSNs so that plus Stadium could be a part of all this.

1) Evil media empire
2) What does that have to do with Flo? Do they own flo?

(05-06-2019 04:43 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I think this deal has limited appeal to those of us who would use Flo for other sports. Otherwise, very meh. Although the word from league office is it is $12.50/month, no commitment needed.

Agree 100%, from a JMU fan perspective I see this as not moving the needle or being very marginal. JMU already does a much better job than the rest of the CAA with coverage and options.

Maybe this is good for the CAA in general but for JMU fan's kinda....ok, whatever.

(05-06-2019 07:46 PM)Oldduke Wrote:  TV 3 (Harrisonburg) at 6 pm had a poll asking if JMU fans would purchase a subscription to this and the result (at 6 pm) was 94% NO; 6% YES.

Admittedly early, but not a good first impression.

If the CAA/JMU and FloSports were smart, they would roll out a big promotion in August offering a decent discount for those that sign up during that month. With JMU's social media footprint, that would be an easy sell. Don't know about the rest of the CAA, but don't really care either.

Hmmmm, that is about what I would expect the poll results to be. It is a very small, niche market that is gonna 'pony-up' an extra $12.99/month or $30/month to watch CAA sports.

What's the big deal. Flosports is additional coverage that does not impact linear or other digital broadcasts (what we already have). There is another option now, that is a positive. $12.50 a month to watch all the games I choose is better than the 9.95 to watch a single away game like for URI, W&M etc.

A gain and no loss in media coverage. I find nothing wrong here or maybe I just don't feel the need to disparage all things CAA.

(05-07-2019 08:34 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 06:38 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Sinclair just bought all of the Fox RSNs so that plus Stadium could be a part of all this.

1) Evil media empire
2) What does that have to do with Flo? Do they own flo?

1) one of the last truthful media empires that isn't propaganda like CNN and MSNBC, CBS, etc.
2) they don't own Flo but could now supplement where ESPN would have wanted to be exclusive. Besides, I doubt all the CAA members have the equipment and experience to produce ESPN+ content.

(05-07-2019 10:38 AM)AllForDukes Wrote:  What's the big deal. Flosports is additional coverage that does not impact linear or other digital broadcasts (what we already have). There is another option now, that is a positive. $12.50 a month to watch all the games I choose is better than the 9.95 to watch a single away game like for URI, W&M etc.

A gain and no loss in media coverage. I find nothing wrong here or maybe I just don't feel the need to disparage all things CAA.

Actually if I read it correctly it does impact existing digital broadcasts. JMU can only show digital broadcasts over Madizone for 'free' if Flosports is not broadcasting it for a paying audience. So basically if you are a JMU fan you are giving up free access for something that is now fee based to get a few games here and there....no thanks.

Schools only retain the exclusive linear broadcasting rights.

Theoretically you are correct. Last year we only lost one game to the same digital exclusive deal to CBS, which did exclude competing linear broadcasts. JB did an excellent job of getting regional linear deals for all other home games. So, I expect that while Flosports may get the digital rights to broadcast Madizone coverage, I will be able to see all or most games on a linear broadcast. Besides, most on here have been bitching about Stretch Internet since it first appeared. Will Flosports be better than Stretch, I don't know and neither does anybody else.

With all the high minded business executives and overall highly successful posters on this board, I would think $37.50 to watch all CAA games wouldn't be a back breaker. Who knew?

One final thought, since the Duke Club pays for the free Madizone broadcasts (nothing is ever free) might this Flosports deal not save the Duke Club some money that can be utilized elsewhere.

(05-07-2019 10:45 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 08:34 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 06:38 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Sinclair just bought all of the Fox RSNs so that plus Stadium could be a part of all this.

1) Evil media empire
2) What does that have to do with Flo? Do they own flo?

1) one of the last truthful media empires that isn't propaganda like CNN and MSNBC, CBS, etc.
2) they don't own Flo but could now supplement where ESPN would have wanted to be exclusive. Besides, I doubt all the CAA members have the equipment and experience to produce ESPN+ content.

will just leave this here so we can see which ONE television news outlet (ahem, Fox News) falls in the red "nonsense damaging to public discourse" box at the bottom and which ones (all the rest) do not, and then return to the topic at hand:


Fox News is hovering at the high end of "Propaganda/ Contains Misleading information" level while no other major TV news organization is rated lower than a low end "Opinion/Fair Persuasion" (minimum partisan bias CNN).

(05-07-2019 11:23 AM)AllForDukes Wrote:  One final thought, since the Duke Club pays for the free Madizone broadcasts (nothing is ever free) might this Flosports deal not save the Duke Club some money that can be utilized elsewhere.

That is correct. If we start paying to watch JMU broadcasts it will for the most part ultimately go back to JMU.

Pretty accurate chart. Anyways, does everyone remember complaining about ESPN+'s $5 a month one year ago? Wow, those were the good ole days!

(05-07-2019 11:36 AM)JMU_Degenerate Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 10:45 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 08:34 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 06:38 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Sinclair just bought all of the Fox RSNs so that plus Stadium could be a part of all this.

1) Evil media empire
2) What does that have to do with Flo? Do they own flo?

1) one of the last truthful media empires that isn't propaganda like CNN and MSNBC, CBS, etc.
2) they don't own Flo but could now supplement where ESPN would have wanted to be exclusive. Besides, I doubt all the CAA members have the equipment and experience to produce ESPN+ content.

will just leave this here so we can see which ONE television news outlet (ahem, Fox News) falls in the red "nonsense damaging to public discourse" box at the bottom and which ones (all the rest) do not, and then return to the topic at hand:


Fox News is hovering at the high end of "Propaganda/ Contains Misleading information" level while no other major TV news organization is rated lower than a low end "Opinion/Fair Persuasion" (minimum partisan bias CNN).

Now this post could certainly take this thread in a new direction.