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So, it’s the end of the day, and we are waiting on MBB news:

Dane replaced Tony, and Julian replaced Julian, but:
Who is Jon’s replacement?
Who is Austin’s replacement?
Who is Luke’s replacement?
Why so long?

Justin has indicated that he is gone, and Luke has indicated that he is returning, but:
Are the others going, or returning?
Why so long?

Our one recruit has decommitted, and remains undecided.

Who will be the other recruits?

Finally, money. Money talks. I presume that 2019 OTOD was a banner day for MBB. Yet, no public figures released by the Athletics Department. Why not? When will we learn the numbers? Kind of important, don’t you think? Kind of like taking the pulse of Tribe nation. If those numbers aren’t released, something is wrong, and someone should do a FOIA request for the 2018 and 2019 numbers.

Lots of questions with no current answers .... questions that mostly didn’t exist two months ago.
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04-25-2019 05:02 PM
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*The staff has already been hired as of ten days ago or so...the announcement is being held up, as appears to be the usual deal at W&M for the contracts to be approved somewhere in the hierarchy of the College.

*Most of those many hundred, like our two talented freshmen, who have officially entered the transfer list are still out there undecided and have to sometime in May
(I don't know the exact date) to make a decision. Dozens of colleges are like W&M...waiting on 19 and 20 year olds to make largely uniformed decisions as
recruiting grinds to a standstill.

*Same with our DC recruit. He is, in effect, going through recruitment again.
04-26-2019 06:08 AM
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For multiple reasons, it is heartening to hear that the staff was hired 10 days ago.

Have they been “working for” W&M while the announcement has been held up? Do the players know who’s coming on board?

Why would our transfers remain undecided? They know W&M hoops. They know the new coach. What’s the issue? Same for our new recruit.

Still waiting on the 2018 OTOD MBB financial numbers vs. 2019 OTOD MBB financial numbers. Since you know the staff was hired 10 days ago, perhaps you can get those numbers for us. Thanks!
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May 15th?
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My understanding is that Luke did not wait til the transfer deadline to make his decision.

What’s the issue with the remaining guys? They’re torn?
04-26-2019 09:10 AM
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The bit of good news, on the assistant coach front, is that, indeed, the job notices, on both the state and W&M sites, have been removed or now say "this position is no longer available", so maybe they ARE just good at keeping things quiet.
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Two of our three new assistants were part of staffs that were dismissed in March, 2019, by their respective AD’s.

Now, either the AD’s knew what they were doing, and if so, ...

OR ...

The AD’s did not know what they were doing, and we are the beneficiaries of their stupidity.

Being a Tribe MBB fan, I have to hope for the latter, don’t I ... or does that leave us with a bigger problem?
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I'm not sure I follow.

We know how this works. Head coaches were fired. It is truly the exception if the old assistants stick around. New coach wants his guys. Kemp or Howland are as responsible for their respective head coaches being fired as Coach Holmes, Austin, or Julian for Shaver getting the axe. Has Fischer identified coaches that share his vision? Can they develop players? Can they effectively recruit? Can they coach? Do they do things the right way? That is all that concerns me and what I will judge the hired on.
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Julian and Jason were on staffs that were dismissed last month.

So, were the AD’s of W&M and Ohio correct in the staff dismissals? If so, why did we hire members of dismissed staffs?

If the AD’s of W&M and Ohio were not correct in the staff dismissals, good for Dane ... we’ve got bigger problems as a result.

Clearer?
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I guess.

Maybe I'm off, but firing of a head coach by an AD reflects very little on the abilities of an assistant coach. Sure, the assistant is part of the failed staff and has some ownership. We are hiring a piece of a failed staff, not the entire staff. Coach Holmes is a good coach and got another gig. Just maybe Fischer thinks these guys are good coaches too.
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Just maybe ... they are all good coaches, and the AD’s should have left them alone to do their jobs ... rather than trying to make their mark.
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(04-26-2019 12:46 PM)nj alum Wrote:  Just maybe ... they are all good coaches, and the AD’s should have left them alone to do their jobs ... rather than trying to make their mark.
Silly talk. Thank goodness that would never happen at W&M.

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