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(04-19-2019 11:44 AM)jarr Wrote:  Not sure what goes through these kids heads. But you can be the starting center for a top 10-15 team under a more dynamic offense, or sit out your senior year and go play for some team like LaSalle. At this point I am pretty much thinking next year is just going to suck, as I dont see us having Brooks, Cumberland, Curtis, or Johnson next year. It will get worse before it gets bettee unfortunately.

Only need Cumberland to come back.

This is part of the process of a coaching change...waiting for it too unfold. Hopefully, sooner rather than later. Just like the hiring of Brannen, I will be glad when all the dust settles and we can finally move forward with who's on this team for next season. I don't want to lose anybody but I only want players who are 100% committed to being a Bearcat. Next players in!

I am actually excited to see what players UC can grab in this process.

Really hope CJB can start piecing together his staff soon so we can get start recruiting. At that point if Im JB, I sit down with all these kids and give them one more chance to decide what they want to do, and if they are unsure I would move.on and start filling out the roster. Either you want to be here and be apart of this or not. I believe UC is the 3rd school SC has been committed to so far, so probably not a big surprise he will be looking.

Looks like UC will lose Logan, Brooks and Samari from next year’s team. Plus the 2 open scholarships that leaves the team with 8 players. 7 if JC declares.

(04-19-2019 12:11 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Looks like UC will lose Logan, Brooks and Samari from next year’s team. Plus the 2 open scholarships that leaves the team with 8 players. 7 if JC declares.

I would only fill the open scholarships with grad transfers or traditional transfers. Unless there is a really solid HS player floating out there that is available, but hopefully no stabs in the dark at HS projects or JUCOs

How convenient...

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/medi...sfer-rules

Quote:DI Council adjusts transfer rules
Playing immediately without a waiver now allowed in some situations, but graduate transfer proposal defeated

Student-athletes in some specific situations can now transfer and compete immediately without a waiver, the Division I Council decided this week. The Council met Thursday and Friday in Indianapolis.

Incoming college athletes who have enrolled in summer school and received athletics financial aid can transfer and play immediately without a waiver if their head coach departs before the first day of classes for the fall term. Additionally, walk-on student-athletes on teams that provide athletics aid and nonrecruited walk-ons can transfer and play immediately without a waiver. Those rules are effective for students who transfer to new schools this fall.

The changes were supported by the Division I Student-Athlete Advisory Committee.

“It’s definitely a win in our books,” said Enna Selmanovic, SAAC vice chair and a former swimmer at Cincinnati who will graduate in May with a bachelor’s degree in biological sciences. “(Allowing student-athletes in certain situations to transfer and play immediately) provides student-athletes with more opportunities to have the best experience possible within their collegiate career.”

The Council also defeated a proposal that would have required schools to count financial aid for some postgraduate transfers against team limits for two years, regardless of whether the student remained enrolled after exhausting athletics eligibility. The proposal would have applied only to student-athletes competing in football and basketball.

Finally, Council members voted to prohibit student-athletes from competing for two different schools in championship season in the same academic year.

These changes all were proposed by the Division I Transfer Working Group, which also proposed the notification of transfer legislation that eliminated the need for student-athletes to receive permission from their current school in order to transfer and receive an athletics scholarship. The working group disbanded last year.

The Council also reviewed the cross-divisional strategic plan for women’s basketball from 2019-2024, developed in concert with the Women’s Basketball Oversight Committee. The Council supported the plan, which evolved over the last year. The plan engaged more than 1,000 stakeholders in the sport across all three NCAA divisions, including coaches, athletics administrators, current and former college athletes, and the leadership of the Women’s Basketball Coaches Association, USA Basketball, ESPN, numerous media personnel and other strategic partners.The plan is based on the unique values that define NCAA women’s basketball and seeks to unify and grow the women’s basketball community; empower college athletes to achieve their full potential; celebrate and elevate the game; and create an inspiring experience for all involved.

The plan will be introduced to the NCAA membership later this month.

(04-19-2019 12:21 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  How convenient...

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/medi...sfer-rules

Quote:DI Council adjusts transfer rules
Playing immediately without a waiver now allowed in some situations, but graduate transfer proposal defeated

Student-athletes in some specific situations can now transfer and compete immediately without a waiver, the Division I Council decided this week. The Council met Thursday and Friday in Indianapolis.

Incoming college athletes who have enrolled in summer school and received athletics financial aid can transfer and play immediately without a waiver if their head coach departs before the first day of classes for the fall term. Additionally, walk-on student-athletes on teams that provide athletics aid and nonrecruited walk-ons can transfer and play immediately without a waiver. Those rules are effective for students who transfer to new schools this fall.

The changes were supported by the Division I Student-Athlete Advisory Committee.

“It’s definitely a win in our books,” said Enna Selmanovic, SAAC vice chair and a former swimmer at Cincinnati who will graduate in May with a bachelor’s degree in biological sciences. “(Allowing student-athletes in certain situations to transfer and play immediately) provides student-athletes with more opportunities to have the best experience possible within their collegiate career.”

The Council also defeated a proposal that would have required schools to count financial aid for some postgraduate transfers against team limits for two years, regardless of whether the student remained enrolled after exhausting athletics eligibility. The proposal would have applied only to student-athletes competing in football and basketball.

Finally, Council members voted to prohibit student-athletes from competing for two different schools in championship season in the same academic year.

These changes all were proposed by the Division I Transfer Working Group, which also proposed the notification of transfer legislation that eliminated the need for student-athletes to receive permission from their current school in order to transfer and receive an athletics scholarship. The working group disbanded last year.

The Council also reviewed the cross-divisional strategic plan for women’s basketball from 2019-2024, developed in concert with the Women’s Basketball Oversight Committee. The Council supported the plan, which evolved over the last year. The plan engaged more than 1,000 stakeholders in the sport across all three NCAA divisions, including coaches, athletics administrators, current and former college athletes, and the leadership of the Women’s Basketball Coaches Association, USA Basketball, ESPN, numerous media personnel and other strategic partners.The plan is based on the unique values that define NCAA women’s basketball and seeks to unify and grow the women’s basketball community; empower college athletes to achieve their full potential; celebrate and elevate the game; and create an inspiring experience for all involved.

The plan will be introduced to the NCAA membership later this month.

Believe that refers to incoming freshman. So Samari

Sounds like this applies to Freshman or transfers who have already enrolled

I am very curious what kind of options Brooks, Johnson, and Curtis have. My guess is either low level P5 schools like Cal (Johnson), Penn State (Brooks), or Illinois (Curtis) or another G5 school. UC is one of the elite G5 programs and has a good team in place next year, not sure what they are hoping for. I think UCLA fans are expecting a different level of talent, so not sure transferring there is an option either.

I think Samari may want to follow his lead recruiter, Antwon Jackson

(04-19-2019 12:26 PM)bctn8n Wrote:  I think Samari may want to follow his lead recruiter, Antwon Jackson

This is probably my guess. Sucks

(04-19-2019 12:11 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Looks like UC will lose Logan, Brooks and Samari from next year’s team. Plus the 2 open scholarships that leaves the team with 8 players. 7 if JC declares.

THE SKY IS FALLING

Just wait and see. Logan has not even entered the portal yet, that info is based off of one random Twitter user. Brooks has not decided to transfer yet, he is just exploring his options... he can still stay at Cincinnati.

Samari does seem probable to leave, which is disappointing, but not devastating. Out of Xavier's 5 commits, 4 are rated higher than Samari (and 2 of them are significantly higher). He's talented, but he will not make or break us. We want players that want to be here.

If we are going off rumors, things have absolutely been trending toward Jarron staying for his senior year.

Brooks just hit the portal.

Just a clarification, the ability for a player to play immediately without sitting a year only applies to students transferring TO a school with a new coach. It has nothing to do with the school where the player is transferring from, which means this doesn't impact anyone who transfers out of UC unless they go to a school with a new coach. Brooks would have to go to a UCLA or Temple of he wanted to play next year.

https://twitter.com/Williams_Justin/stat...97152?s=19

(04-19-2019 12:31 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 12:11 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Looks like UC will lose Logan, Brooks and Samari from next year’s team. Plus the 2 open scholarships that leaves the team with 8 players. 7 if JC declares.

THE SKY IS FALLING

Just wait and see. Logan has not even entered the portal yet, that info is based off of one random Twitter user. Brooks has not decided to transfer yet, he is just exploring his options... he can still stay at Cincinnati.

Samari does seem probable to leave, which is disappointing, but not devastating. Out of Xavier's 5 commits, 4 are rated higher than Samari (and 2 of them are significantly higher). He's talented, but he will not make or break us. We want players that want to be here.

If we are going off rumors, things have absolutely been trending toward Jarron staying for his senior year.

I wasn’t saying the sky is falling. Just stating facts. We’ll need to fill some roster spots. Totally expected with a coaching change.

(04-19-2019 12:56 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 12:31 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 12:11 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Looks like UC will lose Logan, Brooks and Samari from next year’s team. Plus the 2 open scholarships that leaves the team with 8 players. 7 if JC declares.

THE SKY IS FALLING

Just wait and see. Logan has not even entered the portal yet, that info is based off of one random Twitter user. Brooks has not decided to transfer yet, he is just exploring his options... he can still stay at Cincinnati.

Samari does seem probable to leave, which is disappointing, but not devastating. Out of Xavier's 5 commits, 4 are rated higher than Samari (and 2 of them are significantly higher). He's talented, but he will not make or break us. We want players that want to be here.

If we are going off rumors, things have absolutely been trending toward Jarron staying for his senior year.

I wasn’t saying the sky is falling. Just stating facts. We’ll need to fill some roster spots. Totally expected with a coaching change.

My thought is 2019-2020 probably would have been better with Mick, but beyond that we are better with JB.

Just far too much uncertainty with all three players at this point to predict what happens. For Brannen's sake, let's hope decisions come quickly so he can rebuild the team. If all three depart we're certainly in a major reconstruction mode from what appeared to be a top 25 team next season. My hope is short term pain replaced by long term gain.

(04-19-2019 12:56 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 12:31 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(04-19-2019 12:11 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  Looks like UC will lose Logan, Brooks and Samari from next year’s team. Plus the 2 open scholarships that leaves the team with 8 players. 7 if JC declares.

THE SKY IS FALLING

Just wait and see. Logan has not even entered the portal yet, that info is based off of one random Twitter user. Brooks has not decided to transfer yet, he is just exploring his options... he can still stay at Cincinnati.

Samari does seem probable to leave, which is disappointing, but not devastating. Out of Xavier's 5 commits, 4 are rated higher than Samari (and 2 of them are significantly higher). He's talented, but he will not make or break us. We want players that want to be here.

If we are going off rumors, things have absolutely been trending toward Jarron staying for his senior year.

I wasn’t saying the sky is falling. Just stating facts. We’ll need to fill some roster spots. Totally expected with a coaching change.

Billy here never thinks the sky is falling. How dare you, sir?

(04-19-2019 12:56 PM)crex043 Wrote:  Just a clarification, the ability for a player to play immediately without sitting a year only applies to students transferring TO a school with a new coach. It has nothing to do with the school where the player is transferring from, which means this doesn't impact anyone who transfers out of UC unless they go to a school with a new coach. Brooks would have to go to a UCLA or Temple of he wanted to play next year.

https://twitter.com/Williams_Justin/stat...97152?s=19

We have a new coach. Are you telling me if a traditional "sit out a year" transfer decides to transfer to UC, he could play immediately?