(04-05-2019 10:50 AM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 10:16 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 09:22 AM)Yosef84 Wrote:  

(04-04-2019 10:41 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  I believe we were more than ready to head up there until you guys cancelled it.

You were ready to come up to Boone until the hurricane presented a nice excuse. You then proceeded to decline every offer made to play the game including App coming to USM, playing on a neutral field and re-scheduling.

Yosef 84 got to it before I could, but by the time it was over, your “anywhere” didn’t even include Hattiesburg after you all turned your nose up at playing in Chattanooga, roughly halfway between the two schools.

We understand. We wouldn’t want to play us either.

What ever half truths you want to tell yourself to make you feel better about it, go right ahead. I can promise you no Southern Miss fan ever lost a wink of sleep over it. The hard part was understanding why we ever had some FCS callup from the middle of nowhere that we don’t even recruit against scheduled as a road game.

We can thank the General for that, which is another reason among several why Southern Miss fans should be celebrating the hiring of an experienced, successful AD.

Hey guy, no reason to get so defensive.

Its pretty obvious USM made the business decision to cancel the game based on the very low probability of winning. Given the constant state of financial stress that USM seems to be in, I guess it was the right call.

The only part I find slightly confusing is that the AD and football admin must have known by this point, after losing to ULM that they would be on the bowl bubble, and it would be worth trying to play the game just in case they got the upset.

I know for us App fans we certainly wanted the game to help solidify more AP votes if we had a good showing.

Jack Hawkins is fantastic. Couple his achievements with the fact Troy is a rural town far removed from mega-commerce. A lot of people WISH he was the president at their school!!

What are the chances that Brent Jones gets moved up at Troy?

(04-05-2019 09:23 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  What are the chances that Brent Jones gets moved up at Troy?

100% in support of it! He is the real deal.

(04-06-2019 10:38 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 09:23 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  What are the chances that Brent Jones gets moved up at Troy?

100% in support of it! He is the real deal.

To be honest, i would have thought we would be able to get Brent here before JM.

Hope brent gets the chance somewhere. He did a excellant job here. Our marketing has been lacking since he left.

I hope Brent Jones gets it. That guy has really done some awesome things. He is an excellent promoter.

(04-05-2019 12:31 PM)moonshine Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 10:50 AM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  What ever half truths you want to tell yourself to make you feel better about it, go right ahead. I can promise you no Southern Miss fan ever lost a wink of sleep over it. The hard part was understanding why we allowed some weak FCS callups into CUSA instead of proven FCS programs.

Fixed it for you!

Hope you boys are enjoying the bed you made with those programs in the middle of somewhere. MARKETZ!!!

I'm surprise that Troy failed to pay significantly more money after his job performance. $210k for a high performance AD is poor money. Call it how you want but a $12k per month increase will make a lot of folks to move to Mississippi.

(04-07-2019 05:15 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 12:31 PM)moonshine Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 10:50 AM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  What ever half truths you want to tell yourself to make you feel better about it, go right ahead. I can promise you no Southern Miss fan ever lost a wink of sleep over it. The hard part was understanding why we allowed some weak FCS callups into CUSA instead of proven FCS programs.

Fixed it for you!

Hope you boys are enjoying the bed you made with those programs in the middle of somewhere. MARKETZ!!!

I'm surprise that Troy failed to pay significantly more money after his job performance. $210k for a high performance AD is poor money. Call it how you want but a $12k per month increase will make a lot of folks to move to Mississippi.

He simply executed but he wasn't the brainchild of most projects. The endzone building was already happening, he simply executed. Of course, he had to hire a new HC to replace Neal Brown and I think he did a good job hiring Chip Lindsey. However, it wasn't a genius move or anything. Scheduling-wise he did an ok job but he could have done better, scheduling home games vs Memphis and Mississippi St is nice but it was his predecessor who got us Boise State, NC State and Southern Miss. He didn't negotiate max. market payouts vs future opponents Clemson, S Carolina, Kansas St, either.

The next AD will have to do these thing for us:

- schedule more and better home-and-home deals with P5 opponents (Marshall has both Boise St and Pittsburgh coming in 2020 and they will also host VA Tech in the future)
- get P5 teams to pay us max. market payouts for money games (see USM vs Auburn) and schedule games vs storied programs (Marshall at Notre Dame)
- build an IPF in the next few years (Ark St has a nice IPF)
- get even more fans involved (we need to do more than just winning, we need an elaborate marketing strategy)

Troy is already in a great position facility-wise in most sports, so the AD will be able to focus on promotion, marketing, fundraising, scheduling, etc.

Same applies to our new FB HC. He now can focus on coaching and recruiting. Neal Brown was a program-builder who had to install a new culture and he was also heavily involved in designing our new endzone facility, even donated money. Chip Lindsey now can just focus on continuing Neal Brown's work but he won't have to worry about facilities, etc.

(04-07-2019 05:15 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 12:31 PM)moonshine Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 10:50 AM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  What ever half truths you want to tell yourself to make you feel better about it, go right ahead. I can promise you no Southern Miss fan ever lost a wink of sleep over it. The hard part was understanding why we allowed some weak FCS callups into CUSA instead of proven FCS programs.

Fixed it for you!

Hope you boys are enjoying the bed you made with those programs in the middle of somewhere. MARKETZ!!!

I'm surprise that Troy failed to pay significantly more money after his job performance. $210k for a high performance AD is poor money. Call it how you want but a $12k per month increase will make a lot of folks to move to Mississippi.

$210K was his starting salary in 2015. It was likely more by 2019.

Just curious... While he was there, what was Troy's feeling on the guy?

I mean, I know he made a great hire in Neal Brown, but past that, I don't know much.

So are y'all sad to see him go, indifferent, or happy?

(04-07-2019 04:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Just curious... While he was there, what was Troy's feeling on the guy?

I mean, I know he made a great hire in Neal Brown, but past that, I don't know much.

So are y'all sad to see him go, indifferent, or happy?

John Hartwell hired Neal Brown.

IMO, he was a good AD, but I'm not banged up about it. If Brent Jones gets the bump to AD, we may be in even better hands.

(04-07-2019 04:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  Just curious... While he was there, what was Troy's feeling on the guy?

I mean, I know he made a great hire in Neal Brown, but past that, I don't know much.

So are y'all sad to see him go, indifferent, or happy?

Very different guy than Hartwell. He did great things and made some great hires. Hate to see him go, but it’s a very good job that will lead to a lot of interest. Money is the real issue with that position.

(04-05-2019 11:12 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Mississippi is last in the nation in all the good stuff and first in all the Bad stuff. Years of bad government will get you this.

Alabama has them beat, hands down, when it comes to bad government.