(03-27-2019 06:57 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(03-26-2019 09:54 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Guess who had a growing attendance despite the lowest attended year for colleges?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-22-years/

But when you have SEC Teams like Mizzou not having at least half of their "announced" attendance....these "announced" numbers are a joke overall (similar to some AAC schools that have been exposed).

Mizzou had an "announced" attendance average of 52,482 vs the actual 24,377 that showed up.

https://www.columbiamissourian.com/...i_...JAI4Y8Xc-4

Also, Div I-A Attendance will almost always go down each year with so many teams moving up from Div I-AA that obviously don't come close to 30,000-40,000 fans per game.

True, and this has been going on for years. Those of us that were in the Big East remember the inflated numbers for Pitt (seriously, went to a Pitt game against Youngstown State one year and there weren't 5,000 people in the stands but was announced as 40,000).

This being said I have no problem if teams in the AAC are inflating their numbers too. If nobody else is being honest about it, why should we penalize ourselves?

Pitt, Miami FL, etc....all announce 40-45k/game. Reality is closer to 25k except for the 'big name conf. home games'.

Holy Schneikes! Just read that Kansas announced 16,000/game. That has to be an all-time low for a P5 "announced" attendance. Heck that is MAC level attendance.

Broadly speaking, what the article talks about is Navy's approach.
Navy's student body is 4,300, and we intentionally scatter our graduates around the globe, but our average attendance is close to our stadium's 34,000 capacity. (2018 will be lower but 2017 average attendance was over capacity; from the recent USAToday expose about actual attendace, our AD went on record that our announced attendance is scanned tickets) Our average attendance is about 2/3 of our living alumni base.
In addition to those demographic challenges, Navy's last 15 years of football success are a golden age after several decades of mediocrity - the low ebb was 3-30 from 2000-2002, but any post Staubach success was fleeting at best.

Navy gets attendance by selling the Navy Gameday experience rather than Navy Football. It's very different from a KISS concert, and we'll be hard pressed to do a tech upgrade to the 60-year old stadium to make it a wifi marvel, but we sell what we've got.
The march-on and flyovers give us some inherent selling points. But we've managed to convince Annapolitans that Navy Gameday should be part of the annual calendar just like Boat Shows. The city has a waxing-waning love-hate reationship with the Academy, but you sell Billy the Kid Club so the youngsters are sliding down the north end zone hill, and our tailgate environment is good, if not legendary.
There are tradeoffs. Other than the Brigade (and my section 2) the crowd is more "down in front!" than intimidating. Even though we allow re-entry, second half crowds are way lower as those not invested in the game stay at the tailgate party after halftime. When the party is more important than the game itself, we won't lose too much in '19 for a 3-10 '18, but Labor Day crowds are weak when Ocean City or other parties take precedence, and when Halloween fell on a Saturday, attendance was even lower than Labor Day weekend. CCG on six days notice was a sad showing.

All our upgrades, recent and planned, are about amenities like the article suggests, rather than more seats.

(03-26-2019 09:54 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Guess who had a growing attendance despite the lowest attended year for colleges?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-22-years/

Tulsa we need your help! We could do much better if you get more butts in the seats!
Your average attendance the last 5 years ranks 102 nationally. YIKES!!!!

(03-27-2019 10:16 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(03-26-2019 09:54 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Guess who had a growing attendance despite the lowest attended year for colleges?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-22-years/

Tulsa we need your help! We could do much better if you get more butts in the seats!
Your average attendance the last 5 years ranks 102 nationally. YIKES!!!!

One more year, maybe sooner because while Monty is a good man, he isn't a good head coach right now and may get fired mid season.

Winning will help with that a lot.

Like slh Tulsa doesn't is small our living alumni would just barely fill up Chapman stadium. That five year period starts with our firing of an alum and incredibly well loved high school area coach. Add in the current losing and you get this.

We did have some excellent people working on atmosphere and experience last year and I really do think that slowed the slide from a bad season. It's not good though. We fix the winning part and we'll climb back. A decent team can get 25k here with out trying to hard, but we only sit 30,000 so we got to be perfect to help. The schedule is good next year, unfortunately the season may not be.