(04-09-2019 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:39 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  At least both programs appear to be clean, unlike some of the other sweet 16.


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Let's wait until all of the shoe company investigations are in before declaring clean and unclean. We've only gotten started in getting to the nitty gritty of what everyone in the loop from reporters to players already knows is a very very dirty institution that we call college basketball.

I suspect its extremely widespread. Note that UVA didn't have any starters from within 100 miles of Virginia. Closest one was Philadelphia.

(04-08-2019 11:17 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Luckiest title ever. UVA should have lost all of their last three games.

It was a pretty entertaining elite 8 and final 4. I don't think there was much of a gap among the top dozen teams. Usually its a much smaller number before you hit the "gap."

The right bounce, the extra hit free throw, the right call and a bunch of those teams could have won the title.

(04-09-2019 12:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:56 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 11:01 AM)cubucks Wrote:  Let's look at their roads to the final four.

Michigan State- Bradley, Minnesota, LSU and Duke.

Texas Tech- N. Kentucky, Buffalo, Michigan and Gonzaga.

Auburn- NMS, Kansas, UNC and Kentucky.

Virginia- Gardner-Webb,Oklahoma, Oregon and Purdue.

Auburn's path the hardest!?! The more I look at Virginia's path though, the more complicated it looks.

Anyways, congratulations to all 4 teams and thank you for totally destroying my horrible bracket!

Virginia did not play any other No. 1 or No. 2 seed. That is lucky.

Your argument is that Virginia was lucky to play Purdue instead of the Tennessee team that Purdue beat? Or lucky to play Auburn instead of the #1 seed that Auburn beat by 17 points? Or lucky to play TTU instead of the #2 seed TTU beat by 10 points? No. The teams that UVa beat proved to be better than the higher seeds.

Eh, the best team doesn't always win a given game. Virginia was surely better than UMBC last year, but lost their game. Thats one thing about a one and done format, it is prone to fluke results.

It is very lucky to never face a #1 or #2 seed en route to a title. Wonder when that last happened?

But the biggest way UVA was lucky was on the court. Their wins over purdue and auburn were near miraculous and then they trailed TT by 3 with 15 seconds left.

They were lucky to not lose all 3 of those games. To win them all was a 1 in 500 proposition.

(04-09-2019 08:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:56 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 11:01 AM)cubucks Wrote:  Let's look at their roads to the final four.

Michigan State- Bradley, Minnesota, LSU and Duke.

Texas Tech- N. Kentucky, Buffalo, Michigan and Gonzaga.

Auburn- NMS, Kansas, UNC and Kentucky.

Virginia- Gardner-Webb,Oklahoma, Oregon and Purdue.

Auburn's path the hardest!?! The more I look at Virginia's path though, the more complicated it looks.

Anyways, congratulations to all 4 teams and thank you for totally destroying my horrible bracket!

Virginia did not play any other No. 1 or No. 2 seed. That is lucky.

Your argument is that Virginia was lucky to play Purdue instead of the Tennessee team that Purdue beat? Or lucky to play Auburn instead of the #1 seed that Auburn beat by 17 points? Or lucky to play TTU instead of the #2 seed TTU beat by 10 points? No. The teams that UVa beat proved to be better than the higher seeds.

Eh, the best team doesn't always win a given game. Virginia was surely better than UMBC last year, but lost their game. Thats one thing about a one and done format, it is prone to fluke results.

It is very lucky to never face a #1 or #2 seed en route to a title. Wonder when that last happened?

But the biggest way UVA was lucky was on the court. Their wins over purdue and auburn were near miraculous and then they trailed TT by 3 with 15 seconds left.

They were lucky to not lose all 3 of those games. To win them all was a 1 in 500 proposition.

Agree with a lot of what you're saying, Quo. On the other hand, sometimes things and/or events in life are just meant to be. This is definitely one of those situations. Congrats, Hoos! Whatever the heck "Hoos" means?

Cavaliers!

(04-09-2019 08:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:56 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 11:01 AM)cubucks Wrote:  Let's look at their roads to the final four.

Michigan State- Bradley, Minnesota, LSU and Duke.

Texas Tech- N. Kentucky, Buffalo, Michigan and Gonzaga.

Auburn- NMS, Kansas, UNC and Kentucky.

Virginia- Gardner-Webb,Oklahoma, Oregon and Purdue.

Auburn's path the hardest!?! The more I look at Virginia's path though, the more complicated it looks.

Anyways, congratulations to all 4 teams and thank you for totally destroying my horrible bracket!

Virginia did not play any other No. 1 or No. 2 seed. That is lucky.

Your argument is that Virginia was lucky to play Purdue instead of the Tennessee team that Purdue beat? Or lucky to play Auburn instead of the #1 seed that Auburn beat by 17 points? Or lucky to play TTU instead of the #2 seed TTU beat by 10 points? No. The teams that UVa beat proved to be better than the higher seeds.

Eh, the best team doesn't always win a given game. Virginia was surely better than UMBC last year, but lost their game. Thats one thing about a one and done format, it is prone to fluke results.

It is very lucky to never face a #1 or #2 seed en route to a title. Wonder when that last happened?

But the biggest way UVA was lucky was on the court. Their wins over purdue and auburn were near miraculous and then they trailed TT by 3 with 15 seconds left.

They were lucky to not lose all 3 of those games. To win them all was a 1 in 500 proposition.

I think they said that 1990 UNLV was last time. Got to play 12 seed Ball St(Majerus), 11 seed Loyola Marymount, 4 seed Georgia Tech, and 3 seed Duke

(04-09-2019 09:18 AM)cubucks Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 08:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:56 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 11:01 AM)cubucks Wrote:  Let's look at their roads to the final four.

Michigan State- Bradley, Minnesota, LSU and Duke.

Texas Tech- N. Kentucky, Buffalo, Michigan and Gonzaga.

Auburn- NMS, Kansas, UNC and Kentucky.

Virginia- Gardner-Webb,Oklahoma, Oregon and Purdue.

Auburn's path the hardest!?! The more I look at Virginia's path though, the more complicated it looks.

Anyways, congratulations to all 4 teams and thank you for totally destroying my horrible bracket!

Virginia did not play any other No. 1 or No. 2 seed. That is lucky.

Your argument is that Virginia was lucky to play Purdue instead of the Tennessee team that Purdue beat? Or lucky to play Auburn instead of the #1 seed that Auburn beat by 17 points? Or lucky to play TTU instead of the #2 seed TTU beat by 10 points? No. The teams that UVa beat proved to be better than the higher seeds.

Eh, the best team doesn't always win a given game. Virginia was surely better than UMBC last year, but lost their game. Thats one thing about a one and done format, it is prone to fluke results.

It is very lucky to never face a #1 or #2 seed en route to a title. Wonder when that last happened?

But the biggest way UVA was lucky was on the court. Their wins over purdue and auburn were near miraculous and then they trailed TT by 3 with 15 seconds left.

They were lucky to not lose all 3 of those games. To win them all was a 1 in 500 proposition.

Agree with a lot of what you're saying, Quo. On the other hand, sometimes things and/or events in life are just meant to be. This is definitely one of those situations. Congrats, Hoos! Whatever the heck "Hoos" means?

Cavaliers!

I grew up in the DC area so was fairly familiar with UVA growing up. The story I heard was that "Wahoos" was en epithet that Washington & Lee students used about UVA student fans in their baseball games a long time back, meant to indicate they were a bunch of crazy yokels or somesuch, which UVA embraced with pride. It's an unofficial nickname of course, Cavaliers is official.

(04-09-2019 09:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 09:18 AM)cubucks Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 08:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:56 PM)ArQ Wrote:  Virginia did not play any other No. 1 or No. 2 seed. That is lucky.

Your argument is that Virginia was lucky to play Purdue instead of the Tennessee team that Purdue beat? Or lucky to play Auburn instead of the #1 seed that Auburn beat by 17 points? Or lucky to play TTU instead of the #2 seed TTU beat by 10 points? No. The teams that UVa beat proved to be better than the higher seeds.

Eh, the best team doesn't always win a given game. Virginia was surely better than UMBC last year, but lost their game. Thats one thing about a one and done format, it is prone to fluke results.

It is very lucky to never face a #1 or #2 seed en route to a title. Wonder when that last happened?

But the biggest way UVA was lucky was on the court. Their wins over purdue and auburn were near miraculous and then they trailed TT by 3 with 15 seconds left.

They were lucky to not lose all 3 of those games. To win them all was a 1 in 500 proposition.

Agree with a lot of what you're saying, Quo. On the other hand, sometimes things and/or events in life are just meant to be. This is definitely one of those situations. Congrats, Hoos! Whatever the heck "Hoos" means?

Cavaliers!

I grew up in the DC area so was fairly familiar with UVA growing up. The story I heard was that "Wahoos" was en epithet that Washington & Lee students used about UVA student fans in their baseball games a long time back, meant to indicate they were a bunch of crazy yokels or somesuch, which UVA embraced with pride. It's an unofficial nickname of course, Cavaliers is official.

That's funny. Hard to think of UVA as a school of crazy yokels. But then maybe to Washington & Lee.... Imagine what they think of Virginia Tech students or James Madison or Liberty.

(04-09-2019 09:39 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 09:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 09:18 AM)cubucks Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 08:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Your argument is that Virginia was lucky to play Purdue instead of the Tennessee team that Purdue beat? Or lucky to play Auburn instead of the #1 seed that Auburn beat by 17 points? Or lucky to play TTU instead of the #2 seed TTU beat by 10 points? No. The teams that UVa beat proved to be better than the higher seeds.

Eh, the best team doesn't always win a given game. Virginia was surely better than UMBC last year, but lost their game. Thats one thing about a one and done format, it is prone to fluke results.

It is very lucky to never face a #1 or #2 seed en route to a title. Wonder when that last happened?

But the biggest way UVA was lucky was on the court. Their wins over purdue and auburn were near miraculous and then they trailed TT by 3 with 15 seconds left.

They were lucky to not lose all 3 of those games. To win them all was a 1 in 500 proposition.

Agree with a lot of what you're saying, Quo. On the other hand, sometimes things and/or events in life are just meant to be. This is definitely one of those situations. Congrats, Hoos! Whatever the heck "Hoos" means?

Cavaliers!

I grew up in the DC area so was fairly familiar with UVA growing up. The story I heard was that "Wahoos" was en epithet that Washington & Lee students used about UVA student fans in their baseball games a long time back, meant to indicate they were a bunch of crazy yokels or somesuch, which UVA embraced with pride. It's an unofficial nickname of course, Cavaliers is official.

That's funny. Hard to think of UVA as a school of crazy yokels. But then maybe to Washington & Lee.... Imagine what they think of Virginia Tech students or James Madison or Liberty.

Yes ... apparently, this was a LONG time ago, like around 1900. Both are highly selective schools so it's probably a top public vs top private kind of thing between them.

(04-09-2019 09:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 09:18 AM)cubucks Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 08:54 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:19 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:56 PM)ArQ Wrote:  Virginia did not play any other No. 1 or No. 2 seed. That is lucky.

Your argument is that Virginia was lucky to play Purdue instead of the Tennessee team that Purdue beat? Or lucky to play Auburn instead of the #1 seed that Auburn beat by 17 points? Or lucky to play TTU instead of the #2 seed TTU beat by 10 points? No. The teams that UVa beat proved to be better than the higher seeds.

Eh, the best team doesn't always win a given game. Virginia was surely better than UMBC last year, but lost their game. Thats one thing about a one and done format, it is prone to fluke results.

It is very lucky to never face a #1 or #2 seed en route to a title. Wonder when that last happened?

But the biggest way UVA was lucky was on the court. Their wins over purdue and auburn were near miraculous and then they trailed TT by 3 with 15 seconds left.

They were lucky to not lose all 3 of those games. To win them all was a 1 in 500 proposition.

Agree with a lot of what you're saying, Quo. On the other hand, sometimes things and/or events in life are just meant to be. This is definitely one of those situations. Congrats, Hoos! Whatever the heck "Hoos" means?

Cavaliers!

I grew up in the DC area so was fairly familiar with UVA growing up. The story I heard was that "Wahoos" was en epithet that Washington & Lee students used about UVA student fans in their baseball games a long time back, meant to indicate they were a bunch of crazy yokels or somesuch, which UVA embraced with pride. It's an unofficial nickname of course, Cavaliers is official.

Thank you, now I know...

https://twitter.com/bhammond/status/1115...00481?s=12


Jerome had a classic response at last year's post-UMBC press conference too.

(04-09-2019 08:45 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:39 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  At least both programs appear to be clean, unlike some of the other sweet 16.


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Let's wait until all of the shoe company investigations are in before declaring clean and unclean. We've only gotten started in getting to the nitty gritty of what everyone in the loop from reporters to players already knows is a very very dirty institution that we call college basketball.

I suspect its extremely widespread. Note that UVA didn't have any starters from within 100 miles of Virginia. Closest one was Philadelphia.

Well, the UVA campus is basically in the middle of rural Virginia. There really are no significant population centers within 100 miles (DC is about 120 miles away), save for Richmond, and Richmond is still 70 miles away and isn't very big as urban areas go.

(04-09-2019 07:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 08:45 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-09-2019 12:54 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-08-2019 11:39 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  At least both programs appear to be clean, unlike some of the other sweet 16.


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Let's wait until all of the shoe company investigations are in before declaring clean and unclean. We've only gotten started in getting to the nitty gritty of what everyone in the loop from reporters to players already knows is a very very dirty institution that we call college basketball.

Well you would expect North Carolina, DC, Maryland and Virginia to be a significant part of their lineup.
I suspect its extremely widespread. Note that UVA didn't have any starters from within 100 miles of Virginia. Closest one was Philadelphia.

Well, the UVA campus is basically in the middle of rural Virginia. There really are no significant population centers within 100 miles (DC is about 120 miles away), save for Richmond, and Richmond is still 70 miles away and isn't very big as urban areas go.