(03-19-2019 03:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Mr. Aresco, Boise state is holding on line one, BYU is holding on line two, San Diego St is holding on line three....

Exactly! Also, Northern Illinois, Buffalo, Old Dominion, UAB, Southern Miss, Rice, App St, and Charlotte.

(03-19-2019 03:37 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Yay, now we have to pay for ESPN+ to see all of our games. Yuck. Payout is fine, but I feel like a good chunk of the money will be made off the backs of AAC fans who now have to shell out for extra content. I know I sound really cheap, but it does annoy me a bit.

Yep, you sound cheap.

If you’re a sports fan, espn+ is a must. They’re really investing a ton of effort in it. They just made it the EXCLUSIVE place for UFC. This is how ESPN is planning on staying a behemoth after the cord-cutting apocalypse. The platform is already great and keeps getting better.

(03-19-2019 03:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:28 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  The annual average sounds nice now, but will it sound nice in 2032? That's a long time.

P5s will be making $150M/year by 2031. We'll get $7M.

The key was always separating our self from the rest of the G5 first.

Let the world find out some more about concussions and who knows what the game of football will look like in 2031. Parents already aren't letting kids play in high numbers now. That's going to have a ripple down effect on fandom as well IMO as less people grow up watching it, and some people actually stop watching it just because they don't want to support something that leaves young people damaged etc. It's already changed a lot in the last 12 years.

You take this money and run. What was the other option anyway take less and less years. That had to be a bargaining point.

(03-19-2019 03:42 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:37 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Yay, now we have to pay for ESPN+ to see all of our games. Yuck. Payout is fine, but I feel like a good chunk of the money will be made off the backs of AAC fans who now have to shell out for extra content. I know I sound really cheap, but it does annoy me a bit.

Yep, you sound cheap.

If you’re a sports fan, espn+ is a must. They’re really investing a ton of effort in it. They just made it the EXCLUSIVE place for UFC. This is how ESPN is planning on staying a behemoth after the cord-cutting apocalypse. The platform is already great and keeps getting better.

I had it for a few months just to watch 30 for 30's. It's like 5 bucks a month I think.

(03-19-2019 03:37 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Yay, now we have to pay for ESPN+ to see all of our games. Yuck. Payout is fine, but I feel like a good chunk of the money will be made off the backs of AAC fans who now have to shell out for extra content. I know I sound really cheap, but it does annoy me a bit.

from the article ...

looks like we sacrificed most of our espnu/espnnews basketball games for espn+ to get more saturday ABC football games

(03-19-2019 03:18 PM)UCBearcat4ever Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:15 PM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  

Quote:Football, along with men's and women's basketball, will remain on ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU, but the majority of basketball games and a significant number of the football games will go to ESPN+. Other live sports including baseball, softball and soccer also will air on ESPN+. Renewal talks with CBS have not begun.

I was hoping to avoid that.

way to me if we don't renew with CBSSN, all those games that would appear on CBSSN in the past would go to ESPN+, ESPN trying to dump ESPN3 content. Just my guess

so does that mean NBC still has a chance?

(03-19-2019 03:42 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:28 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  The annual average sounds nice now, but will it sound nice in 2032? That's a long time.

P5s will be making $150M/year by 2031. We'll get $7M.

The key was always separating our self from the rest of the G5 first.

Let the world find out some more about concussions and who knows what the game of football will look like in 2031. Parents already aren't letting kids play in high numbers now. That's going to have a ripple down effect on fandom as well IMO as less people grow up watching it, and some people actually stop watching it just because they don't want to support something that leaves young people damaged etc. It's already changed a lot in the last 12 years.

You take this money and run. What was the other option anyway take less and less years. Better to have it locked in now.

And - who knows what the AAC will look like in 2031?

(03-19-2019 03:28 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  The annual average sounds nice now, but will it sound nice in 2032? That's a long time.

Worry about that in 2032. For now, enjoy the fact that were getting a huge raise.

(03-19-2019 03:30 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:23 PM)hobucken0 Wrote:  Still to negotiate money from CBS sports network. Maybe end up with more than $8m

Are you sure about that? We didn't have a deal with CBS the last time, ESPN subleased some of our content to CBS. The article mentions CBS but it mentions ESPN has the Tier 1 and Tier 2 rights. My guess is it would be a continuation of the same deal ESPN and CBS had going before.

Are YOU sure about that? I feel pretty confident that ESPN didn't sublease our MBB title game to CBS...

USFFan

I don’t like how much of our stuff is going to be on espn plus though. Looks like ill have to be doing some illegal streaming for a while.


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(03-19-2019 03:41 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Pretty damn sweet!
Reactions: no to expanding the American. None of the possible adds did sh//t to get us here, so eff em.
The P5 will not be getting raises next time around. They are overpaid now and will have to accept less later.
Should have done a GOR and gotten more money. Read my lips: ain’t none of us going anywhere! No one wants you or they would have you already.

The American has proven here that we are P6.

Expansion is about destroying the MWC's ability to take the NY6 bowl effectively making us an AQ conference.

(03-19-2019 03:45 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:30 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:23 PM)hobucken0 Wrote:  Still to negotiate money from CBS sports network. Maybe end up with more than $8m

Are you sure about that? We didn't have a deal with CBS the last time, ESPN subleased some of our content to CBS. The article mentions CBS but it mentions ESPN has the Tier 1 and Tier 2 rights. My guess is it would be a continuation of the same deal ESPN and CBS had going before.

Are YOU sure about that? I feel pretty confident that ESPN didn't sublease our MBB title game to CBS...

USFFan

but are wrong and right at the same time...
espn subleased our title bball game to cbs, but it was a 1 year thing and it was by our request

but also from the article more money from cbs is coming... knowing cbssports dont expect much

(03-19-2019 03:42 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:28 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  The annual average sounds nice now, but will it sound nice in 2032? That's a long time.

P5s will be making $150M/year by 2031. We'll get $7M.

The key was always separating our self from the rest of the G5 first.

Let the world find out some more about concussions and who knows what the game of football will look like in 2031. Parents already aren't letting kids play in high numbers now. That's going to have a ripple down effect on fandom as well IMO as less people grow up watching it, and some people actually stop watching it just because they don't want to support something that leaves young people damaged etc. It's already changed a lot in the last 12 years.

You take this money and run. What was the other option anyway take less and less years. That had to be a bargaining point.

I'll be interested to see how this all plays out. 12 years is a long time. BYU gets something like 4.5m, MWC gets slightly less than we WERE getting, right? If they both get raises when they renew, the gap might not be as big as we think. Time will tell.

(03-19-2019 03:46 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I don’t like how much of our stuff is going to be on espn plus though. Looks like ill have to be doing some illegal streaming for a while.


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If we want to be seen as legit players on the cfb stage our fanbases will need to ante up. I'm fine with that.

(03-19-2019 03:48 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:46 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I don’t like how much of our stuff is going to be on espn plus though. Looks like ill have to be doing some illegal streaming for a while.


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If we want to be seen as legit players on the cfb stage our fanbases will need to ante up. I'm fine with that.

I guess.... but i refuse to give any of my money to an evil corporation like espn.


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(03-19-2019 03:48 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:46 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I don’t like how much of our stuff is going to be on espn plus though. Looks like ill have to be doing some illegal streaming for a while.


Sent from the warp via the ruinous powers of chaos.

If we want to be seen as legit players on the cfb stage our fanbases will need to ante up. I'm fine with that.

It would be nice if the payout tiers for that content were based on actual subscribers. We could get that unequal revenue sharing that everyone was wanting.

"Game-Changing"

A total let down, this is half of what the AAC is worth right now, I would like to know more about the details of this contract before I get too bent out of shape

(03-19-2019 03:48 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:42 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:30 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-19-2019 03:28 PM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  The annual average sounds nice now, but will it sound nice in 2032? That's a long time.

P5s will be making $150M/year by 2031. We'll get $7M.

The key was always separating our self from the rest of the G5 first.

Let the world find out some more about concussions and who knows what the game of football will look like in 2031. Parents already aren't letting kids play in high numbers now. That's going to have a ripple down effect on fandom as well IMO as less people grow up watching it, and some people actually stop watching it just because they don't want to support something that leaves young people damaged etc. It's already changed a lot in the last 12 years.

You take this money and run. What was the other option anyway take less and less years. That had to be a bargaining point.

I'll be interested to see how this all plays out. 12 years is a long time. BYU gets something like 4.5m, MWC gets slightly less than we WERE getting, right? If they both get raises when they renew, the gap might not be as big as we think. Time will tell.

ESPN grabbed BYU's option, so that is probably a good estimate of their actual value.
mwc (Thompson) said months ago that they were offered extension at current prices, so that is probably a good marker of their actual value. They may go with less money and streamer to control kickoffs.

The dollars per viewer looks that had posters here saying "$6-8 million" work out to BYU ~$4.5 M and mwc ~$2M per school per year.

(03-19-2019 03:54 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  A total let down, this is half of what the AAC is worth right now, I would like to know more about the details of this contract before I get too bent out of shape

It's only a let down if you had unrealistic expectations. I for one am ecstatic.