(03-30-2019 03:15 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 11:24 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 09:52 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 01:46 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Launch April 12, 2018
Sept 20, 2018 - announces 1 million subscribers
Feb 5, 2019 - announces 2 million subscribers

So 5 months, 1 week for the first million
4 months, 2 weeks for the second million

By August 2019, should be over 6 million at that rate. 10 million by the close of 2020.

DAZN has said its goal is to hit 5 million subscribers as a target.

I don't think you can view ESPN+ growth as an exponential doubling like you suggest only that 1 million more subscribers have joined the bandwagon.

I don't think there are any good models for what ESPN+'s growth is going to look like. It will grow, either quickly or slowly, to a market saturation point and stop. But where is that point? Growth linear or exponential? Or maybe in "jumps" as new content types come onto ESPN+? Kind of a crapshoot

I expect ESPN+ to grow in jumps, both seasonal and based on new content. E.g., as football season starts, there will be a jump as fans of conferences with games on plus sign up. Or if they add new popular content like MMA, that will cause a jump.

MMA isn't going to give a significant bump.

What would bump is if it was 11.99 but included the entire ESPN offerings from ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. That is the kind of product people want, not 5 or 6 dollars a month for third tier content.

Would be the best way to capture all the cord cutters who are into sports.

(04-01-2019 03:56 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:15 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 11:24 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 09:52 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  DAZN has said its goal is to hit 5 million subscribers as a target.

I don't think you can view ESPN+ growth as an exponential doubling like you suggest only that 1 million more subscribers have joined the bandwagon.

I don't think there are any good models for what ESPN+'s growth is going to look like. It will grow, either quickly or slowly, to a market saturation point and stop. But where is that point? Growth linear or exponential? Or maybe in "jumps" as new content types come onto ESPN+? Kind of a crapshoot

I expect ESPN+ to grow in jumps, both seasonal and based on new content. E.g., as football season starts, there will be a jump as fans of conferences with games on plus sign up. Or if they add new popular content like MMA, that will cause a jump.

MMA isn't going to give a significant bump.

What would bump is if it was 11.99 but included the entire ESPN offerings from ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. That is the kind of product people want, not 5 or 6 dollars a month for third tier content.

Would be the best way to capture all the cord cutters who are into sports.

Sure, and I'd like to get all 12 HBO channels for $3 a month.

But the reason he isn't going to get all ESPN channels for $12 a month is because he, and the other cord cutters in to sports, are still a fairly tiny market.

OTOH, cable subscribers get them for about $10 a month because they are still a huge market.

(03-30-2019 03:15 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 11:24 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 09:52 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 01:46 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Launch April 12, 2018
Sept 20, 2018 - announces 1 million subscribers
Feb 5, 2019 - announces 2 million subscribers

So 5 months, 1 week for the first million
4 months, 2 weeks for the second million

By August 2019, should be over 6 million at that rate. 10 million by the close of 2020.

DAZN has said its goal is to hit 5 million subscribers as a target.

I don't think you can view ESPN+ growth as an exponential doubling like you suggest only that 1 million more subscribers have joined the bandwagon.

I don't think there are any good models for what ESPN+'s growth is going to look like. It will grow, either quickly or slowly, to a market saturation point and stop. But where is that point? Growth linear or exponential? Or maybe in "jumps" as new content types come onto ESPN+? Kind of a crapshoot

I expect ESPN+ to grow in jumps, both seasonal and based on new content. E.g., as football season starts, there will be a jump as fans of conferences with games on plus sign up. Or if they add new popular content like MMA, that will cause a jump.

MMA isn't going to give a significant bump.

What would bump is if it was 11.99 but included the entire ESPN offerings from ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. That is the kind of product people want, not 5 or 6 dollars a month for third tier content.

Well, of those two million, 568,000 signed up the weekend of the first UFC fight on ESPN+
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes....rship/amp/

(04-01-2019 07:19 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:15 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 11:24 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 09:52 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  DAZN has said its goal is to hit 5 million subscribers as a target.

I don't think you can view ESPN+ growth as an exponential doubling like you suggest only that 1 million more subscribers have joined the bandwagon.

I don't think there are any good models for what ESPN+'s growth is going to look like. It will grow, either quickly or slowly, to a market saturation point and stop. But where is that point? Growth linear or exponential? Or maybe in "jumps" as new content types come onto ESPN+? Kind of a crapshoot

I expect ESPN+ to grow in jumps, both seasonal and based on new content. E.g., as football season starts, there will be a jump as fans of conferences with games on plus sign up. Or if they add new popular content like MMA, that will cause a jump.

MMA isn't going to give a significant bump.

What would bump is if it was 11.99 but included the entire ESPN offerings from ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. That is the kind of product people want, not 5 or 6 dollars a month for third tier content.

Well, of those two million, 568,000 signed up the weekend of the first UFC fight on ESPN+
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes....rship/amp/

Yes, I thought i recall reading that there was a surge of sign-ups right before UFC debuted on ESPN+, that's why i mentioned that.

Now that you must be a ESPN+ subscriber to be able to purchase a UFC PPV that number will rise

(04-01-2019 07:19 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:15 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 11:24 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 09:52 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  DAZN has said its goal is to hit 5 million subscribers as a target.

I don't think you can view ESPN+ growth as an exponential doubling like you suggest only that 1 million more subscribers have joined the bandwagon.

I don't think there are any good models for what ESPN+'s growth is going to look like. It will grow, either quickly or slowly, to a market saturation point and stop. But where is that point? Growth linear or exponential? Or maybe in "jumps" as new content types come onto ESPN+? Kind of a crapshoot

I expect ESPN+ to grow in jumps, both seasonal and based on new content. E.g., as football season starts, there will be a jump as fans of conferences with games on plus sign up. Or if they add new popular content like MMA, that will cause a jump.

MMA isn't going to give a significant bump.

What would bump is if it was 11.99 but included the entire ESPN offerings from ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU. That is the kind of product people want, not 5 or 6 dollars a month for third tier content.

Well, of those two million, 568,000 signed up the weekend of the first UFC fight on ESPN+
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes....rship/amp/

That is all the UFC is going to pull in.

DAZN has MMA and quite frankly I can't tell the difference between it and UFC.

I'm looking forward to an ESPN+/Disney+ bundle for 10-15

(04-04-2019 03:23 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I'm looking forward to an ESPN+/Disney+ bundle for 10-15

With or without option to stream all Disney movies?

(04-04-2019 03:23 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I'm looking forward to an ESPN+/Disney+ bundle for 10-15

That will happen when there are 80 million cord-cutting streamers like there are cable TV customers.