(03-15-2019 11:44 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 11:41 AM)Tribeheart Wrote:  GW is a major build job right out of the gate, we are not.

Completely agree. W&M is the much more attractive job. Maybe less pressure for a young coach to produce right away there, though.

Despite the very damaging article, many basketball fans would still think that GW was the more attractive destination for a coach. They play in the A-10 which historically gets many more at-large bids than does the CAA. GW is also not a football school, so basketball is king and where they probably funnel their most resources. Not as academically rigorous as W&M, either. So I don't think any objective observers would characterize W&M as "much more attractive". That GW scandal will blow over but there is no real evidence to show that W&M is poised to up its game on funding for basketball.

(03-15-2019 11:49 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 11:19 AM)wmmii Wrote:  ... his style of play would utilize the current talents of the team.

I don't get it. So now we should hire a coach to utilize the current talents of the team. We already had a coach who was the best qualified to utilize the talents of the team ...he recruited. I would actually understand it better if the new coach completely switched gears and went in another direction. It could mean that current players could leave but the new coach would take that chance and hope that they didn't.

(03-15-2019 11:35 AM)Tribeheart Wrote:  This year's OOC schedule was not as difficult as it was presented last fall, excluding UVA. The season bore that out.

I agree with you about last year's schedule. I was just reporting what was said. I was perfectly fine with who we played although I would have preferred one or two more of the games be at home.

My comment wasn't intended toward you, Zorch. It was intended that with the change in AD leadership, and hopefully positive support, that Tony had equal responsibility to welcome and support that change, and opportunity. His comments could have just been sandbagging, or a symptom of a deeper problem. I think we all felt the OOC was a refreshing move for the program. It was not as difficult as prior Duke/Louisville years. Either way, there's a responsibility to continue to evolve and not be stuck.

For a coach desiring to win right away, W&M is most certainly more attractive. That's why I added GW could be for a young coach willing to take their lumps. However, will the GW admin and fans be patient for the rebuild? Not so sure about that.

Coaching Changes tweets about the GW vacancy:

“Not unexpected although I don’t think it’s fair to fire a guy after only 3 years

Rumors have been flying all over DC for months that John Thompson III will be their target

Personally, I think JT3 doesn’t want to leave DC and there’s a very legit chance he says yes”

They (and I mean “they” - multiple people contribute to that account) tweet:

“I don't think I see JT3 taking the GW job

Why?

Because the Stanford AD came from Georgetown and Jarod Haase may be entering a hot seat year next season

Vandy could also be entering a hot seat year next season and JT3 may be interested in that job as well

And don't forget Cal”

Another couple of their tweets think Jamion Christian and the Yale coach would be good matches for GW.

(03-15-2019 01:03 PM)WillaMary08 Wrote:  Coaching Changes tweets about the GW vacancy:

“Not unexpected although I don’t think it’s fair to fire a guy after only 3 years

Rumors have been flying all over DC for months that John Thompson III will be their target

Personally, I think JT3 doesn’t want to leave DC and there’s a very legit chance he says yes”

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Hmmmm....and always be in the shadow of Georgetown, no matter what you accomplish.
Coaching Changes has got to sell clicks.

And if JTIII comes here for one year, makes the NCAA with Tony's recruits, then bolts for Huge's mentor at Stanford, I will be even more pissed.

Patrick Beilein would be a worthy choice:
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/son-rise-p...27730.html

I will float another name. Though David Cox has only been Rhody's HC for one year, he was on JTIII's staff at Georgetown during the years Huge was there. DC native, great recruiter, broad resume, and could heal the transition. Rhody knocked VCU out of the A10 tournament this afternoon, for their 6th win in a row.
Was he not your teammate, MrJ??

http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/c...d?view=bio

(03-15-2019 02:02 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  I will float another name. Though David Cox has only been Rhody's HC for one year, he was on JTIII's staff at Georgetown during the years Huge was there. DC native, great recruiter and could heal the transition. Rhody knocked VCU out of the A10 tournament this afternoon.

http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/c...d?view=bio

Not to mention a W&M alum

(03-15-2019 02:04 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 02:02 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  I will float another name. Though David Cox has only been Rhody's HC for one year, he was on JTIII's staff at Georgetown during the years Huge was there. DC native, great recruiter and could heal the transition. Rhody knocked VCU out of the A10 tournament this afternoon.

http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/c...d?view=bio

Not to mention a W&M alum

I would love to see David, but doubt it. He might want to keep Tony's staff and I doubt if Huge would allow that!!

Unless the alumni connection is that strong, URI is a more prestigious job than here. His salary is 700k, they average 5-6k in attendance, A10 is a better league than the CAA, etc.

Just saying, besides being a Tribe alum, there is a dotted line there with Huge, and advisement from JTIII. Plus, the opportunity for his family to come back home. Then again, that would make too much sense.

(03-15-2019 02:02 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  I will float another name. Though David Cox has only been Rhody's HC for one year, he was on JTIII's staff at Georgetown during the years Huge was there. DC native, great recruiter, broad resume, and could heal the transition. Rhody knocked VCU out of the A10 tournament this afternoon, for their 6th win in a row.
Was he not your teammate, MrJ??

http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/c...d?view=bio

Rhody has played better as of late - but they were down pretty good when VCU's Evans went down. They weren't full strength being knocked off. Sucks for VCU, because they were probably built to win a couple of NCAA tournament games with him in the lineup.

My issue with him is the only one year experience thing and doing "well" with a team that was 51 - 18 the last two seasons. Add on to that we likely couldn't "steal" a coach from an A-10 school.

(03-15-2019 02:24 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 02:02 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  I will float another name. Though David Cox has only been Rhody's HC for one year, he was on JTIII's staff at Georgetown during the years Huge was there. DC native, great recruiter, broad resume, and could heal the transition. Rhody knocked VCU out of the A10 tournament this afternoon, for their 6th win in a row.
Was he not your teammate, MrJ??

http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/c...d?view=bio

Rhody has played better as of late - but they were down pretty good when VCU's Evans went down. They weren't full strength being knocked off. Sucks for VCU, because they were probably built to win a couple of NCAA tournament games with him in the lineup.

My issue with him is the only one year experience thing and doing "well" with a team that was 51 - 18 the last two seasons. Add on to that we likely couldn't "steal" a coach from an A-10 school.

Plus it wouldn't look good for him to leave after just one year, and going to a school not seen as a step up, to boot!

Wow, doesn't anybody think returning to your alma mater is a major draw, as well as, a forgiveable reason for bolting.....

Besides, he's got the VCU fanbase riled up because he supposedly called them "p**&#ssies." That alone should send him to the top of the list!!

(03-15-2019 12:21 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 11:44 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 11:41 AM)Tribeheart Wrote:  GW is a major build job right out of the gate, we are not.

Completely agree. W&M is the much more attractive job. Maybe less pressure for a young coach to produce right away there, though.

Despite the very damaging article, many basketball fans would still think that GW was the more attractive destination for a coach. They play in the A-10 which historically gets many more at-large bids than does the CAA. GW is also not a football school, so basketball is king and where they probably funnel their most resources. Not as academically rigorous as W&M, either. So I don't think any objective observers would characterize W&M as "much more attractive". That GW scandal will blow over but there is no real evidence to show that W&M is poised to up its game on funding for basketball.

GW honestly should be a really good job if that athletic department had it's stuff together. It's in a good, multi-bid conference, located right in the middle of one of the top recruiting areas in the country, no issues on getting kids in academically, and the school has a ton of money from their real estate holdings. With those advantages, GW should really consistently be at the top of the A-10 and with a good coach and proper support they could easily be one of the top mid-major programs. It's clear why they weren't with their previous AD...

(03-15-2019 10:19 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 09:56 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  - He will have complete support from his AD

This line made me remember something. Presumably, "complete support" includes a coach having his say in scheduling. Last October I attended a "Meet the Coaches" event in Richmond and Tony Shaver was there. Someone asked him about the upcoming OOC schedule. Tony gave a classy and diplomatic answer but made it clear that the increased hardness of the schedule was not his idea, it was Huge's. He said that she wanted to increase the strength of schedule in order to make it easier to get an at large bid to the NCAAT. He said that one reason he disagreed was because it was a simple fact that the CAA was a one bid league and nothing in the short term was going to change that --- therefore, why schedule yourself for failure and a losing record when all that really mattered was the CAA tournament. (For the record, I agree with Huge about this one. We don't need to schedule any more D-IIIs).

The point is, let's wait and see what next year's OOC schedule looks like. If it is full of creampuffs and D-IIIs then perhaps Huge is now more willing to lend her "complete support" to the new coach more than she was willing to do for Tony.

Wow, shocked you missed the obvious conspiracy angle- Huge wanted a tougher schedule because it would be tougher to fire Shaver if he cranked out 18-20 wins against punching bags.

(03-15-2019 03:50 PM)Rocco Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 10:19 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 09:56 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  - He will have complete support from his AD

This line made me remember something. Presumably, "complete support" includes a coach having his say in scheduling. Last October I attended a "Meet the Coaches" event in Richmond and Tony Shaver was there. Someone asked him about the upcoming OOC schedule. Tony gave a classy and diplomatic answer but made it clear that the increased hardness of the schedule was not his idea, it was Huge's. He said that she wanted to increase the strength of schedule in order to make it easier to get an at large bid to the NCAAT. He said that one reason he disagreed was because it was a simple fact that the CAA was a one bid league and nothing in the short term was going to change that --- therefore, why schedule yourself for failure and a losing record when all that really mattered was the CAA tournament. (For the record, I agree with Huge about this one. We don't need to schedule any more D-IIIs).

The point is, let's wait and see what next year's OOC schedule looks like. If it is full of creampuffs and D-IIIs then perhaps Huge is now more willing to lend her "complete support" to the new coach more than she was willing to do for Tony.

Wow, shocked you missed the obvious conspiracy angle- Huge wanted a tougher schedule because it would be tougher to fire Shaver if he cranked out 18-20 wins against punching bags.

What makes you think I missed that? Read my last paragraph again.

Pete Medhurst tweets:

“Clearly believe there will be interest from William and Mary and also hearing rumblings of a power five school that may be interested in speaking with him [JTIII] but that Team currently has a coach so until they don’t I would never say which school that is publicly just not how I roll”

https://mobile.twitter.com/PeteMedhurst/...4386142209