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How Realignment Should Have Worked
ACC:

Maryland, Notre Dame, Penn State, Syracuse

Boston College, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia

Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Wake Forest


SEC:

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Florida State, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech


Big 10:

Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue

Illinois, Iowa, Northwestern, Ohio State

Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma


PAC:

Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern Cal, Stanford

Arizona, Arizona State, Brigham Young, Utah

Nevada, Nevada Las Vegas, San Diego State, Wyoming


AAC:

Air Force, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U.

Cincinnati, East Carolina, Louisville, Memphis

Army, Connecticut, Navy, Rutgers

Baylor, Central Florida, South Florida, Tulane



I know politics and religion keep BYU out of the PAC. Snobbery keeps SDS out. But Wyoming and the Nevada schools should be with the PAC. I am glad Missouri is in the SEC but how much happier might they have been with 4 other old Big 8 members. Penn State and Maryland just make sense in the ACC geographically. And the service academies just ought to be in there somewhere.
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
Times change. So do priorities, finances and interests.

The Aldine case could rearrange the landscape greater than previous tv realignments ever could. Well just have to wait and see
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
(03-09-2019 10:34 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Times change. So do priorities, finances and interests.

The Aldine case could rearrange the landscape greater than previous tv realignments ever could. Well just have to wait and see

Alston was decided yesterday. Minimal changes to the existing structure and still very limited compensation.
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
(03-09-2019 10:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  ACC:

Maryland, Notre Dame, Penn State, Syracuse

Boston College, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia

Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Wake Forest


SEC:

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Florida State, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech


Big 10:

Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue

Illinois, Iowa, Northwestern, Ohio State

Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma


PAC:

Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern Cal, Stanford

Arizona, Arizona State, Brigham Young, Utah

Nevada, Nevada Las Vegas, San Diego State, Wyoming


AAC:

Air Force, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U.

Cincinnati, East Carolina, Louisville, Memphis

Army, Connecticut, Navy, Rutgers

Baylor, Central Florida, South Florida, Tulane



I know politics and religion keep BYU out of the PAC. Snobbery keeps SDS out. But Wyoming and the Nevada schools should be with the PAC. I am glad Missouri is in the SEC but how much happier might they have been with 4 other old Big 8 members. Penn State and Maryland just make sense in the ACC geographically. And the service academies just ought to be in there somewhere.
Hang in there Jr. Having old Big XII schools to play will probably come to pass! By the way, congrats on the big win over Tennessee. That has made things very interesting.
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
(03-10-2019 02:35 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(03-09-2019 10:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  ACC:

Maryland, Notre Dame, Penn State, Syracuse

Boston College, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia

Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Wake Forest


SEC:

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Florida State, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech


Big 10:

Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue

Illinois, Iowa, Northwestern, Ohio State

Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma


PAC:

Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern Cal, Stanford

Arizona, Arizona State, Brigham Young, Utah

Nevada, Nevada Las Vegas, San Diego State, Wyoming


AAC:

Air Force, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U.

Cincinnati, East Carolina, Louisville, Memphis

Army, Connecticut, Navy, Rutgers

Baylor, Central Florida, South Florida, Tulane



I know politics and religion keep BYU out of the PAC. Snobbery keeps SDS out. But Wyoming and the Nevada schools should be with the PAC. I am glad Missouri is in the SEC but how much happier might they have been with 4 other old Big 8 members. Penn State and Maryland just make sense in the ACC geographically. And the service academies just ought to be in there somewhere.
Hang in there Jr. Having old Big XII schools to play will probably come to pass! By the way, congrats on the big win over Tennessee. That has made things very interesting.

Thanks Medic. I think the men and women will get at least 7 in the tournaments. I don't think the men get 8 but the women depending on how things break could get 8. We'll see.
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
Another way realignment was supposed to work, if the PAC 12 hadn’t made so many boneheaded decisions:

PAC 16:

Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Oregon State,
Washington, Washington State, Cal, Colorado,
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, USC, UCLA, Texas,
Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor/Utah.

Even Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas , Texas Tech, and Utah was on the table if the PAC 12 commish had done a better job of reassuring the Longhorns that everything was going to be okay, even without Texas A&M. Sadly, the PAC 12 botched this.

Had this went through as planned, even if Texas A&M still joined the SEC, I think the SEC was looking at Virginia Tech for membership. Wouldn’t have minded seeing the Hokies in the SEC.
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
It wasn’t really the PAC’s fault

Remember: at the time they were up for renegotiation and Fox was a strong contender. ESPN’s nightmare scenario was almost all major FB West of the Mississippi belonging to Fox. That’s why they were willing to give UT the LHN at the 11th hour. It was always nothing more than a bribe to stay out of the PAC.

They also thought UTs golden handcuffs would keep everyone else in the B12 from moving too and not have to ever pay for a B12 network.

They were half right
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
(03-11-2019 10:28 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  It wasn’t really the PAC’s fault

Remember: at the time they were up for renegotiation and Fox was a strong contender. ESPN’s nightmare scenario was almost all major FB West of the Mississippi belonging to Fox. That’s why they were willing to give UT the LHN at the 11th hour. It was always nothing more than a bribe to stay out of the PAC.

They also thought UTs golden handcuffs would keep everyone else in the B12 from moving too and not have to ever pay for a B12 network.

They were half right

Yes, good point, 10thMountain. At the time, all this posturing by DeLoss Dodds and others about Texas not being interested in going west (PAC12) anymore as an option, had much to do with the LHN being in the works. They implied it was all about time zone issues for prime TV coverage. That's a half-truth as well.
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RE: How Realignment Should Have Worked
(03-09-2019 10:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  ACC:

Maryland, Notre Dame, Penn State, Syracuse

Boston College, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Virginia

Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Wake Forest


SEC:

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Florida State, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech


Big 10:

Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue

Illinois, Iowa, Northwestern, Ohio State

Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma


PAC:

Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern Cal, Stanford

Arizona, Arizona State, Brigham Young, Utah

Nevada, Nevada Las Vegas, San Diego State, Wyoming


AAC:

Air Force, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U.

Cincinnati, East Carolina, Louisville, Memphis

Army, Connecticut, Navy, Rutgers

Baylor, Central Florida, South Florida, Tulane



I know politics and religion keep BYU out of the PAC. Snobbery keeps SDS out. But Wyoming and the Nevada schools should be with the PAC. I am glad Missouri is in the SEC but how much happier might they have been with 4 other old Big 8 members. Penn State and Maryland just make sense in the ACC geographically. And the service academies just ought to be in there somewhere.

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