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(03-07-2019 03:12 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Would any of y'all be interested in placing the AAC's best team outside of the NY6 vs. the MWC best team outside of the NY6? It seems to me, that if you want the best opponent available to play your champ or 2nd best team, that going with the 2nd best G5 conference's champ or 2nd best team, could be had for about $2.5 mil a year pay out per school. That's a lot more reasonable than hoping an existing bowl is going to dump an mid tier P5 team in favor of the AAC champ or 2nd best team. Not only do I think the bowls would be against it, I think the P5 conference still tied to the bowl would be against it.

Right now the bottom tier P5 school play the top of the AAC and it's a no lose situation for the P5. If they win, our worst bowl eligible teams beat one of the G5 best and if they lose, our 6-6 team lost to a 9-3 or better team. They were supposed to lose. If the AAC champ or 2nd best team takes on a mid tier conference team, there's more for the P5 conference to lose and taking on a top tier P5 team is out of the question outside the NY6 access slot.

If not a AAC vs. MWC tie in, how about a G5 conference champs left out of the NY6 access bowl playoff? I don't see why a G5 4 team playoff would be turned down when it has been approved for the P5 and the G5 wouldn't have to give any thing up. There might be enough TV value there to make one of these 2 options happen.

The thing is, that kind of game has been available for years. Something similar was done between CUSA and the MW in the Liberty Bowl—but the MW dumped the game, If there was any mutual desire for that type of game—it would already exist. The AAC has said many times it Bowl goal is to play as many bowls as possible against the P5. I believe that will continue to be thier goal this time around. I think the AAC will try to land all the G5 vs P5 bowl opportunities east of the Rockies.
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Another piece of the puzzle. Looks like the Big-12 line up is going to remain unchanged.

The Big 12 will remain tied to the Alamo, Camping World, Texas, Liberty, Cheez-It and Armed Forces bowls. The hierarchy will remain the same.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/col...31789.html


That would mean, unless the Liberty is giving up their SEC tie---hopes look kinda dim for us getting into the Liberty. I suppose some sort of arrangement where we are in a pool of teams set aside for a group of bowls is still possible---but I feel like we would have seen some evidence of it or some sort of vague reference to a pool by this point in the bowl announcements. Hopefully, something comes in for us that would be worthy landing spot for our champion.
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(03-15-2019 09:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Another piece of the puzzle. Looks like the Big-12 line up is going to remain unchanged.

The Big 12 will remain tied to the Alamo, Camping World, Texas, Liberty, Cheez-It and Armed Forces bowls. The hierarchy will remain the same.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/col...31789.html


That would mean, unless the Liberty is giving up their SEC tie---hopes look kinda dim for us getting into the Liberty.

Surprised Armed Forces wanted to keep them. Have they ever filled the slot?
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(03-15-2019 09:08 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 09:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Another piece of the puzzle. Looks like the Big-12 line up is going to remain unchanged.

The Big 12 will remain tied to the Alamo, Camping World, Texas, Liberty, Cheez-It and Armed Forces bowls. The hierarchy will remain the same.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/col...31789.html


That would mean, unless the Liberty is giving up their SEC tie---hopes look kinda dim for us getting into the Liberty.

Surprised Armed Forces wanted to keep them. Have they ever filled the slot?

My initial thought was--sure, at least a few times.....but the correct answer is zero times this bowl cycle. That said, 2 P5's have played there during this cycle (Pitt and Cal).
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(03-15-2019 09:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 09:08 PM)PT_american Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 09:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Another piece of the puzzle. Looks like the Big-12 line up is going to remain unchanged.

The Big 12 will remain tied to the Alamo, Camping World, Texas, Liberty, Cheez-It and Armed Forces bowls. The hierarchy will remain the same.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/col...31789.html


That would mean, unless the Liberty is giving up their SEC tie---hopes look kinda dim for us getting into the Liberty.

Surprised Armed Forces wanted to keep them. Have they ever filled the slot?

My initial thought was--sure, at least a few times.....but the correct answer is zero times this bowl cycle. That said, 2 P5's have played there during this cycle (Pitt and Cal).

I was thinking they at least did it once but you are right not even once. Crazy they would want them back for an outside chance they make it. Seems actually unlikely they ever fill it. It is their 7th pick and if they are in the playoffs it is 8th. I think the PAC 12 was awarded another bowl game too so they aren’t likely to have anyone extra each year. I honestly would avoid if I was the American and just get it to be the Big12 backup.
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My fantasy is that AAC champ is guaranteed to play a Top 20 team every year, either in an existing bowl or in creating a new bowl for this purpose. And move the bowl to January 1st.
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(03-15-2019 09:33 PM)Robert1969 Wrote:  My fantasy is that AAC champ is guaranteed to play a Top 20 team every year, either in an existing bowl or in creating a new bowl for this purpose. And move the bowl to January 1st.

Let me know how this works out for you.
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(03-15-2019 09:33 PM)Robert1969 Wrote:  My fantasy is that AAC champ is guaranteed to play a Top 20 team every year, either in an existing bowl or in creating a new bowl for this purpose. And move the bowl to January 1st.

Id love that....but at this point, a guaranteed slot in a bowl vs a #3 to #5 selection from a P5 would be a fantastic upgrade from our current top game. Right now, as sad as it seems, the Military (where our opponent can be no higher than the #7 selection from the AAC) is probably our top guaranteed bowl game.
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(03-16-2019 10:51 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(03-15-2019 09:33 PM)Robert1969 Wrote:  My fantasy is that AAC champ is guaranteed to play a Top 20 team every year, either in an existing bowl or in creating a new bowl for this purpose. And move the bowl to January 1st.

Let me know how this works out for you.

Key word: fantasy
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(03-07-2019 03:12 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Would any of y'all be interested in placing the AAC's best team outside of the NY6 vs. the MWC best team outside of the NY6? It seems to me, that if you want the best opponent available to play your champ or 2nd best team, that going with the 2nd best G5 conference's champ or 2nd best team, could be had for about $2.5 mil a year pay out per school. That's a lot more reasonable than hoping an existing bowl is going to dump an mid tier P5 team in favor of the AAC champ or 2nd best team. Not only do I think the bowls would be against it, I think the P5 conference still tied to the bowl would be against it.

Right now the bottom tier P5 school play the top of the AAC and it's a no lose situation for the P5. If they win, our worst bowl eligible teams beat one of the G5 best and if they lose, our 6-6 team lost to a 9-3 or better team. They were supposed to lose. If the AAC champ or 2nd best team takes on a mid tier conference team, there's more for the P5 conference to lose and taking on a top tier P5 team is out of the question outside the NY6 access slot.

If not a AAC vs. MWC tie in, how about a G5 conference champs left out of the NY6 access bowl playoff? I don't see why a G5 4 team playoff would be turned down when it has been approved for the P5 and the G5 wouldn't have to give any thing up. There might be enough TV value there to make one of these 2 options happen.

HECK NO

the AAC will never participate in something that has anything to do in any way, shape, or form with a "G5 Playoff". no and no
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The PAC and Big Xii were the least likely to change and the ones who have an actual pecking order.

I always assumed we would get the SEC spot at the liberty bowl, as I felt it was the spot most likely to swap out.

The ACC and SEC reshuffling was always where we were likely to pick things up.

I still doubt the Sun bowl stays ACC as it seems a bad fit for both. I also think the Independence Bowl is a good probability. We filled it twice already as back ups last bowl cycle and its central to the western division.
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(03-16-2019 04:49 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 03:12 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Would any of y'all be interested in placing the AAC's best team outside of the NY6 vs. the MWC best team outside of the NY6? It seems to me, that if you want the best opponent available to play your champ or 2nd best team, that going with the 2nd best G5 conference's champ or 2nd best team, could be had for about $2.5 mil a year pay out per school. That's a lot more reasonable than hoping an existing bowl is going to dump an mid tier P5 team in favor of the AAC champ or 2nd best team. Not only do I think the bowls would be against it, I think the P5 conference still tied to the bowl would be against it.

Right now the bottom tier P5 school play the top of the AAC and it's a no lose situation for the P5. If they win, our worst bowl eligible teams beat one of the G5 best and if they lose, our 6-6 team lost to a 9-3 or better team. They were supposed to lose. If the AAC champ or 2nd best team takes on a mid tier conference team, there's more for the P5 conference to lose and taking on a top tier P5 team is out of the question outside the NY6 access slot.

If not a AAC vs. MWC tie in, how about a G5 conference champs left out of the NY6 access bowl playoff? I don't see why a G5 4 team playoff would be turned down when it has been approved for the P5 and the G5 wouldn't have to give any thing up. There might be enough TV value there to make one of these 2 options happen.

HECK NO

the AAC will never participate in something that has anything to do in any way, shape, or form with a "G5 Playoff". no and no


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(03-16-2019 04:49 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 03:12 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Would any of y'all be interested in placing the AAC's best team outside of the NY6 vs. the MWC best team outside of the NY6? It seems to me, that if you want the best opponent available to play your champ or 2nd best team, that going with the 2nd best G5 conference's champ or 2nd best team, could be had for about $2.5 mil a year pay out per school. That's a lot more reasonable than hoping an existing bowl is going to dump an mid tier P5 team in favor of the AAC champ or 2nd best team. Not only do I think the bowls would be against it, I think the P5 conference still tied to the bowl would be against it.

Right now the bottom tier P5 school play the top of the AAC and it's a no lose situation for the P5. If they win, our worst bowl eligible teams beat one of the G5 best and if they lose, our 6-6 team lost to a 9-3 or better team. They were supposed to lose. If the AAC champ or 2nd best team takes on a mid tier conference team, there's more for the P5 conference to lose and taking on a top tier P5 team is out of the question outside the NY6 access slot.

If not a AAC vs. MWC tie in, how about a G5 conference champs left out of the NY6 access bowl playoff? I don't see why a G5 4 team playoff would be turned down when it has been approved for the P5 and the G5 wouldn't have to give any thing up. There might be enough TV value there to make one of these 2 options happen.

HECK NO

the AAC will never participate in something that has anything to do in any way, shape, or form with a "G5 Playoff". no and no


And your conference will never ever make the playoffs.


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(03-16-2019 05:52 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(03-16-2019 04:49 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 03:12 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Would any of y'all be interested in placing the AAC's best team outside of the NY6 vs. the MWC best team outside of the NY6? It seems to me, that if you want the best opponent available to play your champ or 2nd best team, that going with the 2nd best G5 conference's champ or 2nd best team, could be had for about $2.5 mil a year pay out per school. That's a lot more reasonable than hoping an existing bowl is going to dump an mid tier P5 team in favor of the AAC champ or 2nd best team. Not only do I think the bowls would be against it, I think the P5 conference still tied to the bowl would be against it.

Right now the bottom tier P5 school play the top of the AAC and it's a no lose situation for the P5. If they win, our worst bowl eligible teams beat one of the G5 best and if they lose, our 6-6 team lost to a 9-3 or better team. They were supposed to lose. If the AAC champ or 2nd best team takes on a mid tier conference team, there's more for the P5 conference to lose and taking on a top tier P5 team is out of the question outside the NY6 access slot.

If not a AAC vs. MWC tie in, how about a G5 conference champs left out of the NY6 access bowl playoff? I don't see why a G5 4 team playoff would be turned down when it has been approved for the P5 and the G5 wouldn't have to give any thing up. There might be enough TV value there to make one of these 2 options happen.

HECK NO

the AAC will never participate in something that has anything to do in any way, shape, or form with a "G5 Playoff". no and no


And your conference will never ever make the playoffs.


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While this is probably true...I'd rather make NO playoff's than opt for a G4 play off. Pass.
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(03-16-2019 05:56 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(03-16-2019 05:52 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(03-16-2019 04:49 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 03:12 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Would any of y'all be interested in placing the AAC's best team outside of the NY6 vs. the MWC best team outside of the NY6? It seems to me, that if you want the best opponent available to play your champ or 2nd best team, that going with the 2nd best G5 conference's champ or 2nd best team, could be had for about $2.5 mil a year pay out per school. That's a lot more reasonable than hoping an existing bowl is going to dump an mid tier P5 team in favor of the AAC champ or 2nd best team. Not only do I think the bowls would be against it, I think the P5 conference still tied to the bowl would be against it.

Right now the bottom tier P5 school play the top of the AAC and it's a no lose situation for the P5. If they win, our worst bowl eligible teams beat one of the G5 best and if they lose, our 6-6 team lost to a 9-3 or better team. They were supposed to lose. If the AAC champ or 2nd best team takes on a mid tier conference team, there's more for the P5 conference to lose and taking on a top tier P5 team is out of the question outside the NY6 access slot.

If not a AAC vs. MWC tie in, how about a G5 conference champs left out of the NY6 access bowl playoff? I don't see why a G5 4 team playoff would be turned down when it has been approved for the P5 and the G5 wouldn't have to give any thing up. There might be enough TV value there to make one of these 2 options happen.

HECK NO

the AAC will never participate in something that has anything to do in any way, shape, or form with a "G5 Playoff". no and no


And your conference will never ever make the playoffs.


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While this is probably true...I'd rather make NO playoff's than opt for a G4 play off. Pass.

This. While we're a super long shot now, joining some kind of G4 playoff would hurt our case even more rather than helping it.
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(03-16-2019 05:52 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(03-16-2019 04:49 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 03:12 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Would any of y'all be interested in placing the AAC's best team outside of the NY6 vs. the MWC best team outside of the NY6? It seems to me, that if you want the best opponent available to play your champ or 2nd best team, that going with the 2nd best G5 conference's champ or 2nd best team, could be had for about $2.5 mil a year pay out per school. That's a lot more reasonable than hoping an existing bowl is going to dump an mid tier P5 team in favor of the AAC champ or 2nd best team. Not only do I think the bowls would be against it, I think the P5 conference still tied to the bowl would be against it.

Right now the bottom tier P5 school play the top of the AAC and it's a no lose situation for the P5. If they win, our worst bowl eligible teams beat one of the G5 best and if they lose, our 6-6 team lost to a 9-3 or better team. They were supposed to lose. If the AAC champ or 2nd best team takes on a mid tier conference team, there's more for the P5 conference to lose and taking on a top tier P5 team is out of the question outside the NY6 access slot.

If not a AAC vs. MWC tie in, how about a G5 conference champs left out of the NY6 access bowl playoff? I don't see why a G5 4 team playoff would be turned down when it has been approved for the P5 and the G5 wouldn't have to give any thing up. There might be enough TV value there to make one of these 2 options happen.

HECK NO

the AAC will never participate in something that has anything to do in any way, shape, or form with a "G5 Playoff". no and no


And your conference will never ever make the playoffs.


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Neither will your team, but we like to keep hope alive don't we?
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