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Who has really developed most has been here 2 years.
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(02-13-2019 12:30 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  As I stated earlier. I can go either way. I am more inline with blazerman's line of thinking but I also know we canned Murry when he had similar type injuries and hired Anderson. I do think this team has progressed and am not going to sit here and say he is in over his head when he is clearly not. If that were the case he would have already been canned. No point in hyperbole. We either keep him or we don't. No point in exaggerating things. That said we are not where my expectations are and there are many reasons why. It isn't just coaching. My biggest criticism is the lack of bench development. I do see HCRE making some correct moves offensively and defensively only to have players blow shots or assignments. While he can't make a wide open shot for them he did recruit them and the lack of a bench prevents substitutions. My criteria is stated above and won't rehash but if HCRE returns we will be better and my expectation is a CUSA Championship and nothing less will be acceptable. We were close this year and I do see development with the guys that play. we are set up to have a solid year next season and will be excited to see Jude's development along with a healthy Butler and Matyr. Matyr can be all-conference if he keeps progressing.

Bingo. As I've said multiple times, the best player still that I've ever seen in a UaB uniform, and still our all-time leading scorer, missed 2 free throws to win the conference tournament, then 2 games later in the round of 32, and his very last game in a UaB uniform, he shot 3 for 21 from the field.

And it wasn't even that pretty of a 3 for 21.

If Gene couldn't make Steve Mitchell hit a free throw or a shot on his biggest stage against North Carolina, what makes anyone think Rob Ehsan can will his guys into hitting their shots ?
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if we were somehow to beat Marsha and WKy this week,

this thread is going to be interesting....
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(02-13-2019 09:46 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(02-13-2019 09:39 AM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  
(02-13-2019 09:23 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  Interesting that Thad Matta interviewed at Ole Miss and UGA but withdrew when they required physicals. Would Matta be a splash hire? Would it be worth passing on the physical?

Why would he withdraw from coaching consideration based on the need for physicals? That would indicate he has some kind of issue he wants to hide and should cause a red flag for others considering him.

I think it's his back issues. The guy's only 51, a lot of good years left if his health was ok. It would definitely be a risk but he would be near some great medical facilities! I just threw Matta out there because he was mentioned in the AK/Ole Miss/Davis saga. But if we do try to go big at some point, we might have to take some risks to make it happen.

For whatever it's worth, Thad's brother Greg played at UAB back in the early to mid 80's. He ended up transferring out before he graduated, but Thad has been to Birmingham to see his older brother play at a time when the program was the best its ever been, so he would know the potential.
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(02-13-2019 12:54 PM)THE_LEGEND Wrote:  if we were somehow to beat Marsha and WKy this week,

this thread is going to be interesting....

I’ve posted comments elsewhere, we’d probably beat both just to make those of us over this era of basketball look bad for a week or 2. I hope they do go on a run, better to fix shi* now than to wait another 2-3 years for us to put together a roster that suits a new coach.
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Honestly I think we split or go 0 fer. WKU is a buzz saw waiting to happen but Marsha is up and down enough to throw up a clunker. I’d we were healthy we would be in first and hoping to sweep.
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(02-13-2019 01:22 PM)bftb Wrote:  For whatever it's worth, Thad's brother Greg played at UAB back in the early to mid 80's. He ended up transferring out before he graduated, but Thad has been to Birmingham to see his older brother play at a time when the program was the best its ever been, so he would know the potential.

Be a long-shot but that's the kind of hire we really need. Instant credibility. Pretty much what Memphis bought with Calipari. Based on who he's interviewed with, Matta seems open to coming south. Maybe trade a lower salary for working with him on his health.

Nice to think about but I don't think we have the visionary leadership needed to make that happen. Just hiring AK would be the convenient and pretty popular thing to do. I think if and when the job comes available, it's Andys if he wants it.
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(02-13-2019 12:54 PM)THE_LEGEND Wrote:  if we were somehow to beat Marsha and WKy this week,

this thread is going to be interesting....

did you see Marshall play this year ...they are as bad as we are
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(02-12-2019 02:22 PM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Sorry for double posting but I thought my other one with all of the quoted text was long enough. This is where I'd narrow the focus:

1) Ask Gregg Marshall which of his guys is ready to be a head coach. His tree has been great. The coaches produce results, and are loyal.

2) Hire a retread. Andy Kennedy, Mark Fox, Shaka Smart or Mike Anderson (depending on how they finish their seasons), etc. College basketball is littered with retreads working out well right now, especially in the south. There are also a ton of examples also not working out, but we seem to be in an era where retread hires are producing results.

3) Hire an up-and-coming coach. I'm personally the least into this one since it seems lose-lose. You hire a low-major coach to come here, that means they're clearly just using UAB as a stepping stone, and they leave as soon as they have success. Or they're a successful low-major coach but can't make the transition. Either way, you're looking again in 4 years. I'm not naive to think UAB gets someone like Bartow again, especially not in 2019, but I hope they're careful to select someone that leaves the program better than they found it. If you go this route, the SoCon is littered with coaches most likely making around half of what UAB could pay. A specific example of someone from this area would be Chris Jans from NMSU. I think he's only making 290k for the Aggies, so UAB could definitely make it worth his while. He's from the Gregg Marshall coaching tree and has had success in each of his 3 seasons as a head coach. He also has some "baggage" which could keep him off the radar of larger jobs for a while.

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(02-13-2019 01:54 PM)HellBlazer Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 02:22 PM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Sorry for double posting but I thought my other one with all of the quoted text was long enough. This is where I'd narrow the focus:

1) Ask Gregg Marshall which of his guys is ready to be a head coach. His tree has been great. The coaches produce results, and are loyal.

2) Hire a retread. Andy Kennedy, Mark Fox, Shaka Smart or Mike Anderson (depending on how they finish their seasons), etc. College basketball is littered with retreads working out well right now, especially in the south. There are also a ton of examples also not working out, but we seem to be in an era where retread hires are producing results.

3) Hire an up-and-coming coach. I'm personally the least into this one since it seems lose-lose. You hire a low-major coach to come here, that means they're clearly just using UAB as a stepping stone, and they leave as soon as they have success. Or they're a successful low-major coach but can't make the transition. Either way, you're looking again in 4 years. I'm not naive to think UAB gets someone like Bartow again, especially not in 2019, but I hope they're careful to select someone that leaves the program better than they found it. If you go this route, the SoCon is littered with coaches most likely making around half of what UAB could pay. A specific example of someone from this area would be Chris Jans from NMSU. I think he's only making 290k for the Aggies, so UAB could definitely make it worth his while. He's from the Gregg Marshall coaching tree and has had success in each of his 3 seasons as a head coach. He also has some "baggage" which could keep him off the radar of larger jobs for a while.

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what ever happened to the folks that thought TJ Cleveland was the future of UAB basketball? Does he still have a lot of support from some Blazer fans?
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You know when Ehsan was hired we could have possibly gotten Kermit Davis instead.
Then again he might have jumped ship to Ole Miss still.
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My choice would be Mike Anderson, if he's available. Name hire, fun style of play, and has shown he can win here.
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(02-13-2019 02:43 PM)Marathon Blazer Wrote:  My choice would be Mike Anderson, if he's available. Name hire, fun style of play, and has shown he can win here.


Mike Anderson, the former UAB coach...while I believe he may be available after this season considering the way his team is playing. However, I believe UAB was a good fit for him then but now, that ship has sailed.
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(02-13-2019 02:35 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  You know when Ehsan was hired we could have possibly gotten Kermit Davis instead.
Then again he might have jumped ship to Ole Miss still.

We were down to the Davis brothers when mike Davis was hired. Kermit was a semifinalist for the job then. It only took him 10 years to make MTSU really good.
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(02-13-2019 02:35 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  You know when Ehsan was hired we could have possibly gotten Kermit Davis instead.
Then again he might have jumped ship to Ole Miss still.

Having lived through both losing successful coaches to richer programs and having a boat anchor of a coach thats dragging us down and who no one else wants, give me a successful coach who will win a bunch of games and leave us in 3-4 years 10 times out of 10.
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Their, are two choices and its, up to Coach Eshan, leave him their and let him build a program and or go out and get Coach Andy. Let them win for two or three years and move on. You can get a Hot name coach he will move in three years. Its been tried and proven. I would leave Coach Eshan alone and let him be a twenty year runner.
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If Coach Ehsan were to be move on, my vote would be for

Wes Miller at UNC Greensboro

Option 2 would be Richie Riley, former UAB assistant, now South Alabama head coach.

Option 3 is TJ Otzelberger, head coach South Dakota State.

In saying this, I truly hope we get hot starting Thursday night and make a solid run into the last weeks of the season.

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(02-13-2019 03:16 PM)slinkie Wrote:  If Coach Ehsan was to be let go or choose move on, my vote would be for:

Wes Miller at UNC Greensboro

Option 2 would be Richie Riley, former UAB assistant, now South Alabama head coach.

Option 3 is TJ Otzelberger, head coach South Dakota State.

In saying this, I truly hope we get hot starting Thursday night and make a solid run into the last weeks of the season.

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(02-13-2019 02:59 PM)josephblazer2770 Wrote:  Their, are two choices and its, up to Coach Eshan, leave him their and let him build a program and or go out and get Coach Andy. Let them win for two or three years and move on. You can get a Hot name coach he will move in three years. Its been tried and proven. I would leave Coach Eshan alone and let him be a twenty year runner.

Only way E stays around 20 years is if he never has one good season, and we don’t make a change.
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