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Our 3 point D is still painful to watch. It seems to be if an opponent makes four passes the fourth will yield an ope corner J. Are we giving them the shot betting on misses or are we simply not executing?

(02-03-2019 11:33 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:58 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't hate Broome. He's just not the star that many people want him to be. I see him very similar to how I saw Kyle Washington last year. When he's scoring by going to his strength it is good for the team. But when he isn't going to the hoop he is both an defensive liability (Mick said post-game that Broome didn't play as much 2nd half because of his D) and an offensive liability (takes bad shots and TO's). 1st half he went to the hoop and he was good, 2nd half he didn't and he was bad and deservedly spent much of it on the bench.

Fact is we lost the lead with Broome on the bench in second half. He only took one shot in second half when we had an eight point lead. Everyone knows he is not our star; but others had much more shaky play to criticize last night.

Broome was on the bench in the 2nd half because he came in, committed a TO (it was credited to Cumberland, but largely Broome's fault), took a horrible 3-point shot, then left his guy wide open for a 3. As Cronin said SMU started picking on Broome in the 2nd half, Broome isn't the athlete that most of our other players are and isn't as fundamentally sound as Jenifer on D.

Yes, Broome played an excellent 1st half. But he also played poorly when he was in the game in the 2nd. My original comment was about Brooks, Scott and Broome. Brooks came on in the end of the game (besides the missed free throws), scored twice, drew fouls and dominated offensive rebounding for the final 5-7 minutes. But like Broome and most of the team (besides Cumberland) he didn't play a complete game, which is generally a bad game.

Changing topic a bit. This is the second recent game where we have we have been poor at rebounding for 75% of the game only to turn it on for the final 5-10 minutes and dominate the boards to end the game (can't recall which game the previous one was, maybe vs USF?). It's a bit of a disturbing trend as it means our guys aren't really "turning it on" until we need it at the end of the game. We are deep enough that players should be going all out all of the time. Not doing so is going to come back to bite us (again) at some point.

(02-03-2019 10:14 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't understand either; Cane's driving ability really opens up things on offense at times when things are stagnant. Justin makes less glaring mistakes but he tends to play it too safe at times and disappears on offense in some tough games this year like at Tulsa, Mississippi State and last night. We need a mixture of both to win down the stretch against the upcoming tough schedule. We are a team with only one outstanding player; we are not going to beat many good teams just with our starting five. We need to win with our depth.

He scored 24 points last night. That's disappearing?

(02-03-2019 04:48 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 10:14 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't understand either; Cane's driving ability really opens up things on offense at times when things are stagnant. Justin makes less glaring mistakes but he tends to play it too safe at times and disappears on offense in some tough games this year like at Tulsa, Mississippi State and last night. We need a mixture of both to win down the stretch against the upcoming tough schedule. We are a team with only one outstanding player; we are not going to beat many good teams just with our starting five. We need to win with our depth.

He scored 24 points last night. That's disappearing?

Huh? Please read what I wrote ....Justin Jenifer scored 4 pts last night and 2 in the other games I referred to at Tulsa and Mississippi State.

LOL, JJ played 24 minutes last night. As previously reported, scored 4 points.

(02-03-2019 05:43 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:48 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 10:14 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't understand either; Cane's driving ability really opens up things on offense at times when things are stagnant. Justin makes less glaring mistakes but he tends to play it too safe at times and disappears on offense in some tough games this year like at Tulsa, Mississippi State and last night. We need a mixture of both to win down the stretch against the upcoming tough schedule. We are a team with only one outstanding player; we are not going to beat many good teams just with our starting five. We need to win with our depth.

He scored 24 points last night. That's disappearing?

Huh? Please read what I wrote ....Justin Jenifer scored 4 pts last night and 2 in the other games I referred to at Tulsa and Mississippi State.

Sorry ... I misread ... thought you meant Jarron. Yes JJ is inconsistent and really helps team when he helps with offense.

(02-03-2019 11:51 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  Our 3 point D is still painful to watch. It seems to be if an opponent makes four passes the fourth will yield an ope corner J. Are we giving them the shot betting on misses or are we simply not executing?

You're not going to prevent 3's against a team like Smu that plays five guys who face the basket and drives the ball. That offense is high risk, high reward as the 3 pt shot is still a relatively low % option when compared to finishing at the hoop, getting fouled at. al. The kid who played the 5 shot 6 3's. I don't think we've had a kid at the 5 attempt a 3 this year unless Diarra threw up a prayer. Now Chargois only made 1/6 which is one of the reasons they lost. Uc is not going to stretch the defense out as far to guard all those 3's, particularly when it involved pulling the 5 out from the paint.

I was encouraged by Mick's postgame comments that they have some adjustments to make to the scouting report / game plan. He was already working on doing better for the game at SMU.

(02-04-2019 11:19 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I was encouraged by Mick's postgame comments that they have some adjustments to make to the scouting report / game plan. He was already working on doing better for the game at SMU.

I heard that on radio as well and I agree. It's easy to assume the negative--that a close win at home translates to a loss on their home court. Possible, but I also wouldn't be surprised if UC won in Dallas by a dozen or more if some adjustments are made.