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College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
1. The first column is revenue...that's football revenue, not total revenue for the athletic department.

2. The second is football valuation.

3. The numbering next to each school is their overall rank according to valuation.

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SEC:

3. Alabama - 140,831,439 - 1,009,903,620
6. Georgia - 138,088,467 - 891,099,506
8. Auburn - 128,960,499 - 871,907,615
9. LSU - 122,703,938 - 852,445,897
10. Tennessee - 113,766,836 - 727,849,384
11. Florida - 117,963,328 - 634,885,946
12. Texas A&M - 101,114,415 - 540,883,003
16. Arkansas - 99,599,352 - 462,727,317
17. South Carolina - 101,297,652 - 460,753,199
22. Ole Miss - 78,736,032 - 341,560,846
31. Kentucky - 66,574,141 - 270,898,513
35. Mississippi State - 50,754,094 - 223,175,464
56. Missouri - 42,568,466 - 122,333,162
61. Vanderbilt - 36,915,107 - 81,494,539

Total valuation for conference = 7,491,918,011
Average = 535,137,001


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Big Ten

2. Ohio State - 136,574,384 - 1,048,166,317
4. Michigan - 133,665,548 - 924,625,003
13. Penn State - 103,736,242 - 518,754,453
14. Wisconsin - 88,713,614 - 474,552,451
15. Nebraska - 93,990,274 - 471,585,561
18. Iowa - 100,040,046 - 458,973,690
20. Michigan State - 75,674,898 - 354,160,110
32. Minnesota - 73,576,081 - 269,798,883
44. Indiana - 61,193,975 - 181,988,355
45. Northwestern - 58,545,202 - 179,637,659
49. Illinois - 52,784,303 - 156,797,041
51. Maryland - 49,907,652 - 149,751,824
54. Purdue - 55,132,293 - 134,004,805
67. Rutgers - 35,376,322 - 67,018,106

Total valuation for conference = 5,389,814,258
Average = 384,986,733


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Big 12

1. Texas - 163,928,296 - 1,105,493,378
7. Oklahoma - 126,416,865 - 885,558,053
29. Kansas State - 68,787,446 - 277,146,330
30. Oklahoma State - 63,909,363 - 270,953,731
33. Texas Tech - 61,914,432 - 244,097,131
39. Kansas - 64,704,137 - 208,020,519
42. TCU - 66,084,236 - 191,286,297
43. Iowa State - 47,732,812 - 187,819,863
59. Baylor - 50,465,954 - 105,708,897
68. West Virginia - 34,050,353 - 61,134,888

Total valuation for conference = 3,537,219,087
Average = 353,721,909


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PAC 12

19. Washington - 102,248,826 - 440,821,919
21. Oregon - 81,953,780 - 348,920,032
23. USC - 74,174,551 - 326,021,581
24. UCLA - 64,845,985 - 302,006,607
25. Arizona State - 70,375,000 - 300,826,000
34. Stanford - 68,340,862 - 232,872,852
37. Utah - 61,344,782 - 213,586,437
38. Colorado - 72,425,832 - 208,242,792
40. California - 61,566,987 - 198,881,848
48. Arizona - 51,865,116 - 166,020,258
52. Washington State - 51,125,157 - 142,466,371
55. Oregon State - 48,212,470 - 127,555,982

Total valuation for conference = 3,008,222,679
Average = 250,685,223


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ACC

5. Notre Dame - 118,740,294 - 913,401,562 - (Not included in ACC totals)

26. Clemson - 72,218,581 - 298,051,865
27. Florida State - 94,597,591 - 289,776,745
28. Virginia Tech - 65,851,157 - 278,315,358
36. Georgia Tech - 59,422,543 - 215,013,855
41. Miami - 47,820,654 - 193,474,341
46. North Carolina State - 51,911,816 - 179,255,274
47. Louisville - 58,011,677 - 175,765,264
50. North Carolina - 50,024,180 - 155,246,919
53. Virginia - 31,675,701 - 134,926,313
57. Syracuse - 44,613,716 - 121,057,725
58. Pittsburgh - 48,091,636 - 112,942,437
62. Boston College - 37,155,617 - 81,051,159
64. Wake Forest - 32,604,709 - 76,590,240
66. Duke - 35,987,926 - 67,502,331

Total valuation for conference = 2,378,969,826
Average = 169,926,416


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Non-Power 5 Schools in Top 65 Ranking:

60. BYU - 32,704,695 - 93,302,419
63. Boise State - 27,172,138 - 78,823,574
65. Central Florida - 29,550,300 - 68,117,425


The WSJ article is behind a paywall, but I imagine some have a subscription so I'll post the link

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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
My personal takeaways.

1. The ACC's numbers are just paltry as a whole.

2. The SEC is far and away #1.

3. The Big 12 is nipping at the Big Ten's heels. The average is very similar.
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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
(02-01-2019 02:43 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  My personal takeaways.

1. The ACC's numbers are just paltry as a whole.

2. The SEC is far and away #1.

3. The Big 12 is nipping at the Big Ten's heels. The average is very similar.

It's interesting that Oklahoma dropped from the 3 member 1 Billion dollar impact club and Alabama which was very close last year jumped in. Still just 3 schools to reach that plateau.

It just makes it even clearer as to why if the SEC landed OU and Texas it would never be caught. And it highlights the Big 10's need and desire to close that gap with the same two products. I hope that even makes it clearer as to why considering Tech and Oklahoma State to ensure the move would be worth it. Also, I strongly suspect that the revenue totals listed are not Gross Revenue Totals and have been adjusted. I get those from the tax reports filed with Equity in Athletics. They'll be out in May. The WSJ's valuation numbers are apple to apples and I really appreciate the work.
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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
(02-01-2019 03:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-01-2019 02:43 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  My personal takeaways.

1. The ACC's numbers are just paltry as a whole.

2. The SEC is far and away #1.

3. The Big 12 is nipping at the Big Ten's heels. The average is very similar.

It's interesting that Oklahoma dropped from the 3 member 1 Billion dollar impact club and Alabama which was very close last year jumped in. Still just 3 schools to reach that plateau.

It just makes it even clearer as to why if the SEC landed OU and Texas it would never be caught. And it highlights the Big 10's need and desire to close that gap with the same two products. I hope that even makes it clearer as to why considering Tech and Oklahoma State to ensure the move would be worth it. Also, I strongly suspect that the revenue totals listed are not Gross Revenue Totals and have been adjusted. I get those from the tax reports filed with Equity in Athletics. They'll be out in May. The WSJ's valuation numbers are apple to apples and I really appreciate the work.

I think Ohio State also lost a good bit of value although they stayed in the $1 billion range.

With Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, both of those products are in the top 35. That would put them in the lower 1/3 of the SEC in values, but the SEC value is so high that that doesn't really encapsulate the situation.
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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
(02-01-2019 03:22 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(02-01-2019 03:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-01-2019 02:43 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  My personal takeaways.

1. The ACC's numbers are just paltry as a whole.

2. The SEC is far and away #1.

3. The Big 12 is nipping at the Big Ten's heels. The average is very similar.

It's interesting that Oklahoma dropped from the 3 member 1 Billion dollar impact club and Alabama which was very close last year jumped in. Still just 3 schools to reach that plateau.

It just makes it even clearer as to why if the SEC landed OU and Texas it would never be caught. And it highlights the Big 10's need and desire to close that gap with the same two products. I hope that even makes it clearer as to why considering Tech and Oklahoma State to ensure the move would be worth it. Also, I strongly suspect that the revenue totals listed are not Gross Revenue Totals and have been adjusted. I get those from the tax reports filed with Equity in Athletics. They'll be out in May. The WSJ's valuation numbers are apple to apples and I really appreciate the work.

I think Ohio State also lost a good bit of value although they stayed in the $1 billion range.

With Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, both of those products are in the top 35. That would put them in the lower 1/3 of the SEC in values, but the SEC value is so high that that doesn't really encapsulate the situation.

Even if you average the totals of Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech and compare it to the SEC average, it doesn't take into account what the domination of that football crazy region of 33 million would be worth to us, or the added value that an SEC branding on that product would have.

I definitely like the concept. The football only value is useful to see as well. When the WSJ basketball valuations come out adding that value to the school's total valuation would help as well.


UT/OU/OSU/TTU= 558,854,879
SEC Average= 535,137,001

So we could take all four and obviously add more value that just the small % shown here in the raw numbers.
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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
These figures listed as 2018 are really for the 2017-8 Season. So for comparison purposes I'll list these as 2017 as compared to the previous year which were for the season beginning in 2016.

Big 10 Total 2016: 5,820,481,000
Big 10 Total 2017: 5,389,814,258
Difference of: -$430,666,792

Big 10 per team Avg 2016: 415,748,643
Big 10 per team Avg 2017: 384,986,733
Difference of: -$30,761,910



Big 12 Total 2016: 3,764,333,000
Big 12 Total 2017: 3,537,219,087
Difference of: -$227,113,913

Big 12 per team Avg 2016: 376,433,300
Big 12 per team Avg 2017: 353,721,909
Difference of: -$22,711,391



SEC Total 2017: 7,491,918,011
SEC Total 2016: 7,327,830,000
Difference of: +$164,088,011

SEC per team Avg 2017: 535,137,001
SEC per team Avg 2016: 523,416,428
Difference of: +$11,720,573



PAC Total 2016: 3,045,197,000
PAC Total 2017: 3,008,222,679
Difference of: -$36,974,321

PAC per team Avg 2016: 253,766,417
PAC per team Avg 2017: 250,685,223
Difference of: -$3,081,194



ACC Total 2016: 2,533,375,000
ACC Total 2017: 2,378,969,826
Difference of: -$154,405,974

ACC per team Avg 2016: 182,383,929
ACC per team Avg 2017: 169,926,416
Difference of: -$12,457,513




I think it is significant that among the P5 football was devalued in its economic impact upon the regions of 4 of the P5 conferences in a year over year evaluation by the WSJ. It will be interesting to see if this trend continues when 2018 valuations are released this time next year.

I think it bodes well for the SEC that in such a broad trend our numbers actually improved.
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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
(02-01-2019 07:26 PM)JRsec Wrote:  These figures listed as 2018 are really for the 2017-8 Season. So for comparison purposes I'll list these as 2017 as compared to the previous year which were for the season beginning in 2016.

Big 10 Total 2016: 5,820,481,000
Big 10 Total 2017: 5,389,814,258
Difference of: -$430,666,792

Big 10 per team Avg 2016: 415,748,643
Big 10 per team Avg 2017: 384,986,733
Difference of: -$30,761,910



Big 12 Total 2016: 3,764,333,000
Big 12 Total 2017: 3,537,219,087
Difference of: -$227,113,913

Big 12 per team Avg 2016: 376,433,300
Big 12 per team Avg 2017: 353,721,909
Difference of: -$22,711,391



SEC Total 2017: 7,491,918,011
SEC Total 2016: 7,327,830,000
Difference of: +$164,088,011

SEC per team Avg 2017: 535,137,001
SEC per team Avg 2016: 523,416,428
Difference of: +$11,720,573



PAC Total 2016: 3,045,197,000
PAC Total 2017: 3,008,222,679
Difference of: -$36,974,321

PAC per team Avg 2016: 253,766,417
PAC per team Avg 2017: 250,685,223
Difference of: -$3,081,194



ACC Total 2016: 2,533,375,000
ACC Total 2017: 2,378,969,826
Difference of: -$154,405,974

ACC per team Avg 2016: 182,383,929
ACC per team Avg 2017: 169,926,416
Difference of: -$12,457,513




I think it is significant that among the P5 football was devalued in its economic impact upon the regions of 4 of the P5 conferences in a year over year evaluation by the WSJ. It will be interesting to see if this trend continues when 2018 valuations are released this time next year.

I think it bodes well for the SEC that in such a broad trend our numbers actually improved.

I noticed that for each conference you listed 2016 first then 2017 except the SEC you listed 2017 first. Are the numbers matched up with the right years?
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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
(02-01-2019 10:34 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(02-01-2019 07:26 PM)JRsec Wrote:  These figures listed as 2018 are really for the 2017-8 Season. So for comparison purposes I'll list these as 2017 as compared to the previous year which were for the season beginning in 2016.

Big 10 Total 2016: 5,820,481,000
Big 10 Total 2017: 5,389,814,258
Difference of: -$430,666,792

Big 10 per team Avg 2016: 415,748,643
Big 10 per team Avg 2017: 384,986,733
Difference of: -$30,761,910



Big 12 Total 2016: 3,764,333,000
Big 12 Total 2017: 3,537,219,087
Difference of: -$227,113,913

Big 12 per team Avg 2016: 376,433,300
Big 12 per team Avg 2017: 353,721,909
Difference of: -$22,711,391



SEC Total 2017: 7,491,918,011
SEC Total 2016: 7,327,830,000
Difference of: +$164,088,011

SEC per team Avg 2017: 535,137,001
SEC per team Avg 2016: 523,416,428
Difference of: +$11,720,573



PAC Total 2016: 3,045,197,000
PAC Total 2017: 3,008,222,679
Difference of: -$36,974,321

PAC per team Avg 2016: 253,766,417
PAC per team Avg 2017: 250,685,223
Difference of: -$3,081,194



ACC Total 2016: 2,533,375,000
ACC Total 2017: 2,378,969,826
Difference of: -$154,405,974

ACC per team Avg 2016: 182,383,929
ACC per team Avg 2017: 169,926,416
Difference of: -$12,457,513




I think it is significant that among the P5 football was devalued in its economic impact upon the regions of 4 of the P5 conferences in a year over year evaluation by the WSJ. It will be interesting to see if this trend continues when 2018 valuations are released this time next year.

I think it bodes well for the SEC that in such a broad trend our numbers actually improved.

I noticed that for each conference you listed 2016 first then 2017 except the SEC you listed 2017 first. Are the numbers matched up with the right years?

Duh? You subtract the lesser from the greater to get the difference. The SEC was valued higher in 2017 than 2016 so 2016 is subtracted from 2017 to get the increase. All of the others were valued less in 2017 than in 2016 so you subtract 2017 from 2016 to get the NET loss in value.
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RE: College Football Value Rankings - 2018 - WSJ
(02-01-2019 10:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-01-2019 10:34 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(02-01-2019 07:26 PM)JRsec Wrote:  These figures listed as 2018 are really for the 2017-8 Season. So for comparison purposes I'll list these as 2017 as compared to the previous year which were for the season beginning in 2016.

Big 10 Total 2016: 5,820,481,000
Big 10 Total 2017: 5,389,814,258
Difference of: -$430,666,792

Big 10 per team Avg 2016: 415,748,643
Big 10 per team Avg 2017: 384,986,733
Difference of: -$30,761,910



Big 12 Total 2016: 3,764,333,000
Big 12 Total 2017: 3,537,219,087
Difference of: -$227,113,913

Big 12 per team Avg 2016: 376,433,300
Big 12 per team Avg 2017: 353,721,909
Difference of: -$22,711,391



SEC Total 2017: 7,491,918,011
SEC Total 2016: 7,327,830,000
Difference of: +$164,088,011

SEC per team Avg 2017: 535,137,001
SEC per team Avg 2016: 523,416,428
Difference of: +$11,720,573



PAC Total 2016: 3,045,197,000
PAC Total 2017: 3,008,222,679
Difference of: -$36,974,321

PAC per team Avg 2016: 253,766,417
PAC per team Avg 2017: 250,685,223
Difference of: -$3,081,194



ACC Total 2016: 2,533,375,000
ACC Total 2017: 2,378,969,826
Difference of: -$154,405,974

ACC per team Avg 2016: 182,383,929
ACC per team Avg 2017: 169,926,416
Difference of: -$12,457,513




I think it is significant that among the P5 football was devalued in its economic impact upon the regions of 4 of the P5 conferences in a year over year evaluation by the WSJ. It will be interesting to see if this trend continues when 2018 valuations are released this time next year.

I think it bodes well for the SEC that in such a broad trend our numbers actually improved.

I noticed that for each conference you listed 2016 first then 2017 except the SEC you listed 2017 first. Are the numbers matched up with the right years?

Duh? You subtract the lesser from the greater to get the difference. The SEC was valued higher in 2017 than 2016 so 2016 is subtracted from 2017 to get the increase. All of the others were valued less in 2017 than in 2016 so you subtract 2017 from 2016 to get the NET loss in value.

There was more than one way to interpret your method of the post - chronological order or mathematical order. Just double-checking. Thanks
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