Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
Author Message
SublimeKnight Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,711
Joined: Jan 2011
Reputation: 328
I Root For: UCF
Location: ATL
Post: #61
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 01:30 PM)usffan Wrote:  

USFFan

How do you butcher the spelling of "UCONN" that bad?
01-16-2019 01:57 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
No Bull Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,426
Joined: Jul 2008
Reputation: 820
I Root For: UCF
Location: Deadwood
Post: #62
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
Brandon Wimbush is a hell of an athlete... 16 td passes and 14 rushing tds as a sophomore...however he completed less tha 50% of his passes... that is not a very good match for our offense...

Mack has a lot of upside... I hope he does not transfer...
01-16-2019 04:00 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
HuskyU Offline
Big East Overlord
*

Posts: 22,802
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 1182
I Root For: UCONN
Location: The Big East
Post: #63
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 01:57 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 01:30 PM)usffan Wrote:  

USFFan

How do you butcher the spelling of "UCONN" that bad?

Cuz they dumb.
01-16-2019 04:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
KnightLight Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,664
Joined: Sep 2003
Reputation: 700
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #64
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-15-2019 12:54 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:48 PM)Mike the Knight Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:24 PM)2bumsabroad Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:23 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Beat me to it.

You'll love it up in Storrs, Mack.

He's only a freshman. I dont think its a slap in the face, he can still be the future

Umm - kid's a redshirt freshman. Now his sophomore year you want him to sit behind a ND transfer who's going to chase 1 year of glory. Then, presumably, they'll be waiting to see if Milton's able to play again in 2020. How, exactly, can he be "the future?" He realizes he's Heupel's side piece. Hence, my question.

USFFan

Lol. How is it a slap in the face? Schools continue to recruit the most talent possible and every position should be up for competition each year.

And there is no way we should go into next season with a combined 3 starts amongst our QBs.

Most schools recruit underclassmen to develop rather than one year stop gaps. Maybe Mack is the exception - the one who won't get bent out of shape about it. And if that's true, then good for you guys. But history isn't on your side on this one. I guess I see the potential cost (alienating a kid who's been working his ass off at UCF for two years) to chase one year of a guy who lost out to Ian Book as potentially too high. Sounds like I'm in the minority. We'll see how it plays out. My bet - Mack finishes his career somewhere other than UCF.

USFFan

History is on our side...because history shows that teams normally need talented depth that includes more than 3 QB COMBINED starts on their roster and only one of them has ever taken a snap from center.

Once Milton went down in the Black Friday game...Heupel knew he had to find a grad transfer QB...because he knew he couldn't start 2019 season with just 1 QB on the roster with 3 starts.

Most teams will end up needing more than 1 QB at sometime in the season to win a game. Heck, some teams end up on their 3rd or 4th QB due to injuries and or poor performance.

Advantage of Wimbush is he is enrolled for Spring Semester...so he will have all Winter to work with some WR...then work thru all of Spring Practice...summer workouts with WR...and the same for Mack...as odds are, they split #1 snaps...something Mack never got in the off-season before.

Heupel will never stop recruiting QB's...as he will sign at least one more QB in 2020...and in 2021 and so on.

No clue if Milton will play in 2020 (he could even play some time in late Nov 2019 and still keep his redshirt by playing in only 4 games), but hopefully having Wimbush, Mack AND the true Freshmen from Hawaii Dillion Gabriel, all here for winter/spring practice/workouts...hopefully ALL push each other...and may the best QB start off next August...but whoever is #2...will be just 1 play away from being the next starter...and then the next #2 will be just 1 play away from being the following starter.

Mack was never promised the starting job in 2019...and neither was Wimbush (nor Dillion Gabriel)...so may the best person win and others be prepared.
01-16-2019 04:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
KnightLight Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,664
Joined: Sep 2003
Reputation: 700
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #65
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
Believe Wimbush thinks the fast/uptempo Heupel Offense will help out with his passing game (which everyone agrees needs improvement)...as the slow style of ND Offense, doesn't help much in regards to a passing rhythm.

Also, UCF will have at least 2 new starters on their OL in 2019...and something Mack struggled was his inability to "feel" the rush...and Wimbush has much more escapability than Mack so that might help UCF's Offense in 2019 if their OL struggles.

Interesting stat:

Wimbush faced more Top 5-10-25-40 defenses than any other ND QB since Quinn in 2003.

His replacement earlier this year NEVER even faced a Top 40 offense to close out the ND schedule until their final game vs Clemson...where they scored 3 pts.
(This post was last modified: 01-16-2019 04:50 PM by KnightLight.)
01-16-2019 04:48 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
usffan Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,021
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 691
I Root For: USF
Location:
Post: #66
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 04:38 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:54 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:48 PM)Mike the Knight Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:24 PM)2bumsabroad Wrote:  He's only a freshman. I dont think its a slap in the face, he can still be the future

Umm - kid's a redshirt freshman. Now his sophomore year you want him to sit behind a ND transfer who's going to chase 1 year of glory. Then, presumably, they'll be waiting to see if Milton's able to play again in 2020. How, exactly, can he be "the future?" He realizes he's Heupel's side piece. Hence, my question.

USFFan

Lol. How is it a slap in the face? Schools continue to recruit the most talent possible and every position should be up for competition each year.

And there is no way we should go into next season with a combined 3 starts amongst our QBs.

Most schools recruit underclassmen to develop rather than one year stop gaps. Maybe Mack is the exception - the one who won't get bent out of shape about it. And if that's true, then good for you guys. But history isn't on your side on this one. I guess I see the potential cost (alienating a kid who's been working his ass off at UCF for two years) to chase one year of a guy who lost out to Ian Book as potentially too high. Sounds like I'm in the minority. We'll see how it plays out. My bet - Mack finishes his career somewhere other than UCF.

USFFan

History is on our side...because history shows that teams normally need talented depth that includes more than 3 QB COMBINED starts on their roster and only one of them has ever taken a snap from center.

Once Milton went down in the Black Friday game...Heupel knew he had to find a grad transfer QB...because he knew he couldn't start 2019 season with just 1 QB on the roster with 3 starts.

Most teams will end up needing more than 1 QB at sometime in the season to win a game. Heck, some teams end up on their 3rd or 4th QB due to injuries and or poor performance.

Advantage of Wimbush is he is enrolled for Spring Semester...so he will have all Winter to work with some WR...then work thru all of Spring Practice...summer workouts with WR...and the same for Mack...as odds are, they split #1 snaps...something Mack never got in the off-season before.

Heupel will never stop recruiting QB's...as he will sign at least one more QB in 2020...and in 2021 and so on.

No clue if Milton will play in 2020 (he could even play some time in late Nov 2019 and still keep his redshirt by playing in only 4 games), but hopefully having Wimbush, Mack AND the true Freshmen from Hawaii Dillion Gabriel, all here for winter/spring practice/workouts...hopefully ALL push each other...and may the best QB start off next August...but whoever is #2...will be just 1 play away from being the next starter...and then the next #2 will be just 1 play away from being the following starter.

Mack was never promised the starting job in 2019...and neither was Wimbush (nor Dillion Gabriel)...so may the best person win and others be prepared.

I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe. I readily admit that I could be wrong about that, but there are lots of examples of QB's who leave when teams do such a thing. We've already discussed a few on here, and USF has certainly seen it happen on both sides (Steven Bench came from Penn State, Mike White left for Western Kentucky, now we're losing both Brett Kean and Chris Oladokun). But there are lots of examples (Will Grier, John O'Korn, Cam Newton, Gardner Minshew, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Scott Frost, Troy Aikman...). That is why I said history isn't on your side.

USFFan
01-16-2019 05:03 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
KnightLight Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,664
Joined: Sep 2003
Reputation: 700
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #67
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe. I readily admit that I could be wrong about that, but there are lots of examples of QB's who leave when teams do such a thing. We've already discussed a few on here, and USF has certainly seen it happen on both sides (Steven Bench came from Penn State, Mike White left for Western Kentucky, now we're losing both Brett Kean and Chris Oladokun). But there are lots of examples (Will Grier, John O'Korn, Cam Newton, Gardner Minshew, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Scott Frost, Troy Aikman...). That is why I said history isn't on your side.

USFFan

So you would prefer your HC to just "wing it" and put all his eggs in one basket of a QB (that he did not recruit) that had a total of 3 career starts and NO ONE else on the Spring or Fall roster will have ever taken a snap under center?

There isn't any downside....if Heupel believes he improved his overall experienced talent at that position...as no one can predict who or who will not transfer out in the future...but unlike you, Heupel actually knows Mack and his knows his QB room and lockerroom and his knows the team's culture.

The big gamble (and mistake) was to just "wing it" for 2019 and hope Mack not only improved greatly where needed...plus, would go thru a 14-15 game season 100% healthy. (Which for a QB who is involved in the running game is hard to do).

I think it took talent to think that this could be a mistake...and it would take a usf fan to come up with that conclusion and they alone.
(This post was last modified: 01-16-2019 05:24 PM by KnightLight.)
01-16-2019 05:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
usffan Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,021
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 691
I Root For: USF
Location:
Post: #68
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 05:23 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe. I readily admit that I could be wrong about that, but there are lots of examples of QB's who leave when teams do such a thing. We've already discussed a few on here, and USF has certainly seen it happen on both sides (Steven Bench came from Penn State, Mike White left for Western Kentucky, now we're losing both Brett Kean and Chris Oladokun). But there are lots of examples (Will Grier, John O'Korn, Cam Newton, Gardner Minshew, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Scott Frost, Troy Aikman...). That is why I said history isn't on your side.

USFFan

So you would prefer your HC to just "wing it" and put all his eggs in one basket of a QB (that he did not recruit) that had a total of 3 career starts and NO ONE else on the Spring or Fall roster will have ever taken a snap under center?

There isn't any downside....if Heupel believes he improved his overall experienced talent at that position...as no one can predict who or who will not transfer out in the future...but unlike you, Heupel actually knows Mack and his knows his QB room and lockerroom and his knows the team's culture.

The big gamble (and mistake) was to just "wing it" for 2019 and hope Mack not only improved greatly where needed...plus, would go thru a 14-15 game season 100% healthy. (Which for a QB who is involved in the running game is hard to do).

I think it took talent to think that this could be a mistake...and it would take a usf fan to come up with that conclusion and they alone.

I would have expected Heupel to have brought in future QB's who could be trained to push Mack and theoretically be his backup rather than chase a senior looking for an easy fix because he couldn't beat out Ian Book.

And, for what it's worth, I would have preferred Strong had done the same thing rather than court Barnett.

USFFan
01-16-2019 05:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
KnightLight Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,664
Joined: Sep 2003
Reputation: 700
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #69
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 05:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:23 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe. I readily admit that I could be wrong about that, but there are lots of examples of QB's who leave when teams do such a thing. We've already discussed a few on here, and USF has certainly seen it happen on both sides (Steven Bench came from Penn State, Mike White left for Western Kentucky, now we're losing both Brett Kean and Chris Oladokun). But there are lots of examples (Will Grier, John O'Korn, Cam Newton, Gardner Minshew, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Scott Frost, Troy Aikman...). That is why I said history isn't on your side.

USFFan

So you would prefer your HC to just "wing it" and put all his eggs in one basket of a QB (that he did not recruit) that had a total of 3 career starts and NO ONE else on the Spring or Fall roster will have ever taken a snap under center?

There isn't any downside....if Heupel believes he improved his overall experienced talent at that position...as no one can predict who or who will not transfer out in the future...but unlike you, Heupel actually knows Mack and his knows his QB room and lockerroom and his knows the team's culture.

The big gamble (and mistake) was to just "wing it" for 2019 and hope Mack not only improved greatly where needed...plus, would go thru a 14-15 game season 100% healthy. (Which for a QB who is involved in the running game is hard to do).

I think it took talent to think that this could be a mistake...and it would take a usf fan to come up with that conclusion and they alone.

I would have expected Heupel to have brought in future QB's (i.e. HS recruits) who could be trained to push Mack and theoretically be his backup rather than chase a senior looking for an easy fix because he couldn't beat out Ian Book.

And, for what it's worth, I would have preferred Strong had done the same thing rather than court Barnett.

USFFan

So you wanted Heupel to sign another HS QB (most aren't able to enroll early in Jan like Gabriel did) and HOPE Mack improved in 2019?

That shows you don't have the mentality of a Top 15 HC...as Heupel knows Wimbush will push Mack and Mack will push Wimbush...and both will improve...much more so if Heupel only brought in HS QB's.

Remember, this wasn't planned...but plans changed...and it did in the 2nd Q on Black Friday when Milton went down.
(This post was last modified: 01-16-2019 05:56 PM by KnightLight.)
01-16-2019 05:56 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Square Knight Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 533
Joined: Aug 2016
Reputation: 31
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #70
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 05:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:23 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe. I readily admit that I could be wrong about that, but there are lots of examples of QB's who leave when teams do such a thing. We've already discussed a few on here, and USF has certainly seen it happen on both sides (Steven Bench came from Penn State, Mike White left for Western Kentucky, now we're losing both Brett Kean and Chris Oladokun). But there are lots of examples (Will Grier, John O'Korn, Cam Newton, Gardner Minshew, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Scott Frost, Troy Aikman...). That is why I said history isn't on your side.

USFFan

So you would prefer your HC to just "wing it" and put all his eggs in one basket of a QB (that he did not recruit) that had a total of 3 career starts and NO ONE else on the Spring or Fall roster will have ever taken a snap under center?

There isn't any downside....if Heupel believes he improved his overall experienced talent at that position...as no one can predict who or who will not transfer out in the future...but unlike you, Heupel actually knows Mack and his knows his QB room and lockerroom and his knows the team's culture.

The big gamble (and mistake) was to just "wing it" for 2019 and hope Mack not only improved greatly where needed...plus, would go thru a 14-15 game season 100% healthy. (Which for a QB who is involved in the running game is hard to do).

I think it took talent to think that this could be a mistake...and it would take a usf fan to come up with that conclusion and they alone.

I would have expected Heupel to have brought in future QB's who could be trained to push Mack and theoretically be his backup rather than chase a senior looking for an easy fix because he couldn't beat out Ian Book.

And, for what it's worth, I would have preferred Strong had done the same thing rather than court Barnett.

USFFan

Ummm...UCF DID bring in a "future QB" in this signing class.

Thing is, freshman QB's don't usually come in and play like veterans early in their first year. UCF needed someone who could pay right away if Mack struggles. It would be one of the stupidest moves in college football had UCF not looked for a graduate transfer.
01-16-2019 06:05 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
KnightLight Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,664
Joined: Sep 2003
Reputation: 700
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #71
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
Golic and Wingo this AM had a segment on Wimbush signing with UCF (all said it was a major move by UCF), and here is a segment by DA on CBS Sports Radio talking about Wimbush's decision to pick UCF over others.

https://twitter.com/CBSSportsRadio/statu...7718833158
01-16-2019 06:20 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TerryD Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,881
Joined: Feb 2006
Reputation: 898
I Root For: Notre Dame
Location: Grayson Highlands
Post: #72
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-15-2019 01:58 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:43 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Sorry, but I never thought Wimbush was any good to start.

He lost his job to Ian Book who at best, is adequate.

Agree. I think it's a great pickup, but the guy did get beat out by another QB, and that QB didn't perform well in the CFP game.

I know nothing about the guy, but I think whether he becomes the UCF starter AND is effective remains to be seen.


ND fan here.

Brandon Wimbush is a great kid. He handled his demotion extremely well. I hope he does well and the transfer works out for him.

As stated, he went 13-3 as a starter at ND.

He is a dual threat QB who has racked up some good rushing yards and rushing TD's.

His accuracy is his weak spot. He was just barely above 50% completion rate at ND.

He has a strong arm and throws a nice deep ball but sometimes makes bad reads and throws quite a few interceptions.

Good luck to him next year.
01-16-2019 11:59 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ArmoredUpKnight Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 9,835
Joined: Dec 2009
Reputation: 681
I Root For: UCF Knights
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Post: #73
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 11:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 01:58 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(01-15-2019 12:43 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Sorry, but I never thought Wimbush was any good to start.

He lost his job to Ian Book who at best, is adequate.

Agree. I think it's a great pickup, but the guy did get beat out by another QB, and that QB didn't perform well in the CFP game.

I know nothing about the guy, but I think whether he becomes the UCF starter AND is effective remains to be seen.


ND fan here.

Brandon Wimbush is a great kid. He handled his demotion extremely well. I hope he does well and the transfer works out for him.

As stated, he went 13-3 as a starter at ND.

He is a dual threat QB who has racked up some good rushing yards and rushing TD's.

His accuracy is his weak spot. He was just barely above 50% completion rate at ND.

He has a strong arm and throws a nice deep ball but sometimes makes bad reads and throws quite a few interceptions.

Good luck to him next year.

Thanks for the analysis 04-cheers
01-17-2019 07:47 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
firmbizzle Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 20,447
Joined: Jul 2008
Reputation: 442
I Root For: UF, UCF
Location:
Post: #74
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 04:00 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Brandon Wimbush is a hell of an athlete... 16 td passes and 14 rushing tds as a sophomore...however he completed less tha 50% of his passes... that is not a very good match for our offense...

Mack has a lot of upside... I hope he does not transfer...

I'm not too thrilled about his completion percentage either, but Milton has much less of an arm. This offense works first by the read option, then moving the pocket, then QB getting into space and then looking for your 3 receiving options during that time or running. If he can throw on the run he'll be fine, especially with UCF's deep threats.
01-17-2019 09:47 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
goodknightfl Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 21,110
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 499
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #75
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 05:56 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:23 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe. I readily admit that I could be wrong about that, but there are lots of examples of QB's who leave when teams do such a thing. We've already discussed a few on here, and USF has certainly seen it happen on both sides (Steven Bench came from Penn State, Mike White left for Western Kentucky, now we're losing both Brett Kean and Chris Oladokun). But there are lots of examples (Will Grier, John O'Korn, Cam Newton, Gardner Minshew, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Scott Frost, Troy Aikman...). That is why I said history isn't on your side.

USFFan

I would have expected Heupel to have brought in future QB's (i.e. HS recruits) who could be trained to push Mack and theoretically be his backup rather than chase a senior looking for an easy fix because he couldn't beat out Ian Book.
USFFan
Remember, this wasn't planned...but plans changed...and it did in the 2nd Q on Black Friday when Milton went down.

If we were rebuilding you don't bring him in, If you are trying to continue winning championships you do. UCF today is not in a rebuild mode, that day will come... but it isn't next year. you reload and go for it all.
01-17-2019 09:50 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
firmbizzle Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 20,447
Joined: Jul 2008
Reputation: 442
I Root For: UF, UCF
Location:
Post: #76
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-17-2019 09:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:56 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:23 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe. I readily admit that I could be wrong about that, but there are lots of examples of QB's who leave when teams do such a thing. We've already discussed a few on here, and USF has certainly seen it happen on both sides (Steven Bench came from Penn State, Mike White left for Western Kentucky, now we're losing both Brett Kean and Chris Oladokun). But there are lots of examples (Will Grier, John O'Korn, Cam Newton, Gardner Minshew, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Scott Frost, Troy Aikman...). That is why I said history isn't on your side.

USFFan

I would have expected Heupel to have brought in future QB's (i.e. HS recruits) who could be trained to push Mack and theoretically be his backup rather than chase a senior looking for an easy fix because he couldn't beat out Ian Book.
USFFan
Remember, this wasn't planned...but plans changed...and it did in the 2nd Q on Black Friday when Milton went down.

If we were rebuilding you don't bring him in, If you are trying to continue winning championships you do. UCF today is not in a rebuild mode, that day will come... but it isn't next year. you reload and go for it all.

Have you looked at WR depth?? UCF might be in rebuild mode. Question marks at WR, OL, QB, TE, DL,
01-17-2019 03:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Knights_of_UCF Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,980
Joined: Oct 2004
Reputation: 88
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #77
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-17-2019 03:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-17-2019 09:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:56 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:23 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

I would have expected Heupel to have brought in future QB's (i.e. HS recruits) who could be trained to push Mack and theoretically be his backup rather than chase a senior looking for an easy fix because he couldn't beat out Ian Book.
USFFan
Remember, this wasn't planned...but plans changed...and it did in the 2nd Q on Black Friday when Milton went down.

If we were rebuilding you don't bring him in, If you are trying to continue winning championships you do. UCF today is not in a rebuild mode, that day will come... but it isn't next year. you reload and go for it all.

Have you looked at WR depth?? UCF might be in rebuild mode. Question marks at WR, OL, QB, TE, DL,

what question mark at wr? lmao. OL and DL i'll give you but I expect DL to be better next year than this year with the incoming guys...but unproven. TE is stacked just like WR.
(This post was last modified: 01-17-2019 03:48 PM by Knights_of_UCF.)
01-17-2019 03:48 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Meatwad Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,569
Joined: Mar 2005
Reputation: 52
I Root For: UCF & The Arsenal
Location:
Post: #78
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-17-2019 03:48 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(01-17-2019 03:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-17-2019 09:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:56 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:29 PM)usffan Wrote:  I would have expected Heupel to have brought in future QB's (i.e. HS recruits) who could be trained to push Mack and theoretically be his backup rather than chase a senior looking for an easy fix because he couldn't beat out Ian Book.
USFFan
Remember, this wasn't planned...but plans changed...and it did in the 2nd Q on Black Friday when Milton went down.

If we were rebuilding you don't bring him in, If you are trying to continue winning championships you do. UCF today is not in a rebuild mode, that day will come... but it isn't next year. you reload and go for it all.

Have you looked at WR depth?? UCF might be in rebuild mode. Question marks at WR, OL, QB, TE, DL,

what question mark at wr? lmao. OL and DL i'll give you but I expect DL to be better next year than this year with the incoming guys...but unproven. TE is stacked just like WR.
you can't really believe that. all except one are freshmen and if the JUCO DT is an impact player next year that will be the first ever for UCF.
01-17-2019 04:06 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Knights_of_UCF Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,980
Joined: Oct 2004
Reputation: 88
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #79
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-17-2019 04:06 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(01-17-2019 03:48 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(01-17-2019 03:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-17-2019 09:50 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(01-16-2019 05:56 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  Remember, this wasn't planned...but plans changed...and it did in the 2nd Q on Black Friday when Milton went down.

If we were rebuilding you don't bring him in, If you are trying to continue winning championships you do. UCF today is not in a rebuild mode, that day will come... but it isn't next year. you reload and go for it all.

Have you looked at WR depth?? UCF might be in rebuild mode. Question marks at WR, OL, QB, TE, DL,

what question mark at wr? lmao. OL and DL i'll give you but I expect DL to be better next year than this year with the incoming guys...but unproven. TE is stacked just like WR.
you can't really believe that. all except one are freshmen and if the JUCO DT is an impact player next year that will be the first ever for UCF.

we've had some impact jucos on DL before...jarvis geathers ring a bell?

As for next year, the guys leaving didn't produce this year except Trystin Hill who was actually a headcase and couldn't get out of his own way. Addition by subtraction. Titus davis and Joey Conners were leaders but didn't provide much on field results.

Meanwhile we add a bunch of DL while guys like Randy Charlton and Brendon hayes get a year older. Charlton showed big time flashes as a true freshman. Tre'mon Morris Bash is an UA All American and probably the best DL Recruit we've ever gotten on paper. I think Jalen Pinkney starts from Day 1. So I definitely think our DL will be better next year than it was this year.
01-17-2019 04:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
St. H. Gink Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,019
Joined: Jul 2008
Reputation: 123
I Root For: CollegeFootball
Location:
Post: #80
RE: Notre Dame's Brandon Wimbush transfering to UCF!
(01-16-2019 05:03 PM)usffan Wrote:  I agree with you that teams need talented depth at every position, including QB. I just don't believe that Mack is going to be as fine with the decision of the coaching staff to go out and chase a 1 year fix over trusting him after he worked hard for 2 years to earn a spot on the field as most of UCF fans on here believe.

USFFan

Dude, you're wrong. Just stop.

[Image: MsXW2SI.png]

07-coffee3
01-17-2019 10:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.