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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
(01-08-2019 10:30 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(01-08-2019 02:56 AM)Zorch Wrote:  
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(01-07-2019 11:36 AM)Zorch Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 08:00 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Right now, UNCW and the Tribe have two common opponents in Towson and JMU, we've beat them on the road, you've beat them at home.

"we've beat them on the road, you've beat them at home". Winning at home vs away really doesn't mean much until all teams have played both home and away. That is, UNCW beating bad teams on the road doesn't count any more than W&M beating those same bad teams at home. They are bad teams and good teams should beat them both home and away. That is why W&M's road win at Drexel is not really that great -- W&M should beat Drexel at any venue this year. At the end of the season is when such comparisons have value.

I disagree on that point. Road wins are what separates the wheat from the chaff across college basketball. That's why P5 teams don't play non-P5 on the road-- way too risky.

My point got lost in there somewhere. We were talking about teams in the same conference ---- who play each other both home and away. So my point was that differentiating between two teams so early in the year because one team played a common opponent at home while the other team played that same opponent on the road doesn't really add value at that point in the season. Wait until the end and then make comparisons.

Ummmmmm. It's not like UNCW created the Power Rankings here. We're just debating the blatant homerism that is even admitted in the blog piece. LOL

Seriously, not sure I would whine about homerism (though it is a W&M blog, I have no problem with a little of it) when the rankings are no different than Sagarin.
01-08-2019 10:56 AM
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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
Power rankings are, by definition, part objective part subjective. They're a mix of what has happened (win/loss), and what we predict will actually happen moving forward (i.e. who we believe the best teams actually are).

And yes, we don't shy away from our homer status 02-13-banana -- why should we?

If you think UNCW fans are upset at the rankings -- you should see the chatter on the Delaware boards...LOL. (while UD doesn't use the CSN boards, they have a very robust board elsewhere)

Click below for a good time/read on that thread: http://www.gohens.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25444
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01-08-2019 01:26 PM
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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
I see power rankings differently, I guess. I see them merely as a where do you stand right now aka recency bias. I do not see power rankings as something meant to project further than right now. You can't be "powerful" based on something that has not happened. There is nothing wrong with "what have you done for me today" rankings but I keep those separate from rankings that project what may happen or where teams appears to be headed. But that is just me personally.
01-08-2019 02:11 PM
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(01-07-2019 08:59 PM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  And EvanJ from Hofstra. Can't forget about him.
Thank you. I liked having CAAZone and now here to read posts from fans of different teams. A big difference between NCAA and professional is that you root for the teams in your conference to win out of conference, whereas in the pros you root for the other teams in your team's division to lose because strength of schedule doesn't matter except for a tiny chance of it being an NFL tiebreaker.

There's also a few Drexel fans (including dan10 in the post above this), a few Northeastern fans, swampcougar5 (a Charleston fan and I might have the number at the end of the username wrong, TerpsNPhoenix (a fan of Maryland and Elon and a might have the capitalization wrong), and another Elon fan joined and made a couple posts. The teams that have literally zero fans here are Delaware and Towson.
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01-08-2019 08:00 PM
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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
(01-08-2019 08:00 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 08:59 PM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  And EvanJ from Hofstra. Can't forget about him.
Thank you. I liked having CAAZone and now here to read posts from fans of different teams. A big difference between NCAA and professional is that you root for the teams in your conference to win out of conference, whereas in the pros you root for the other teams in your team's division to lose because strength of schedule doesn't matter except for a tiny chance of it being an NFL tiebreaker.

There's also a few Drexel fans (including dan10 in the post above this), a few Northeastern fans, swampcougar5 (a Charleston fan and I might have the number at the end of the username wrong, TerpsNPhoenix (a fan of Maryland and Elon and a might have the capitalization wrong), and another Elon fan joined and made a couple posts. The teams that have literally zero fans here are Delaware and Towson.

Matt1992 (Towson) used to be decently active, but yeah haven't seen him in a while
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Also the general board was created last year because of the feedback from everyone that wanted it back, versus just individual boards. However, there has not been much traction on there from everyone. It is semi active, but not like the zone days, not even close. Having the general board stickied on each individual board would help, even though the CAA Conference Talk is not really its own board its just at the bottom instead of going to the school's board. Not sure if GTSwagger can modify that any more than as he currently has it set up. But the point is the general board is still there and it would really be nice if it were more active.
01-09-2019 08:05 AM
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(01-09-2019 08:05 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Also the general board was created last year because of the feedback from everyone that wanted it back, versus just individual boards. However, there has not been much traction on there from everyone. It is semi active, but not like the zone days, not even close. Having the general board stickied on each individual board would help, even though the CAA Conference Talk is not really its own board its just at the bottom instead of going to the school's board. Not sure if GTSwagger can modify that any more than as he currently has it set up. But the point is the general board is still there and it would really be nice if it were more active.

Honestly... the problem is that there are so many clicks to get to your team's board that I suspect many, like me, bookmark it and go to it directly. I forget that there is a general.
01-09-2019 08:54 AM
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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
(01-09-2019 08:54 AM)wml33t Wrote:  
(01-09-2019 08:05 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Also the general board was created last year because of the feedback from everyone that wanted it back, versus just individual boards. However, there has not been much traction on there from everyone. It is semi active, but not like the zone days, not even close. Having the general board stickied on each individual board would help, even though the CAA Conference Talk is not really its own board its just at the bottom instead of going to the school's board. Not sure if GTSwagger can modify that any more than as he currently has it set up. But the point is the general board is still there and it would really be nice if it were more active.

Honestly... the problem is that there are so many clicks to get to your team's board that I suspect many, like me, bookmark it and go to it directly. I forget that there is a general.

That's how it is for me, too.
01-09-2019 09:11 AM
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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
(01-09-2019 08:54 AM)wml33t Wrote:  Honestly... the problem is that there are so many clicks to get to your team's board that I suspect many, like me, bookmark it and go to it directly. I forget that there is a general.

No doubt. I am the same way. But I still use desktop not mobile so when reading a thread its very easy to be on the general board in one click from any thread. I had the app on my other phone and hardly used it, because it was not that easy to use, on my current phone I did not even install the app.
01-09-2019 09:42 AM
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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
(01-09-2019 08:05 AM)dan10 Wrote:  Also the general board was created last year because of the feedback from everyone that wanted it back, versus just individual boards. However, there has not been much traction on there from everyone. It is semi active, but not like the zone days, not even close. Having the general board stickied on each individual board would help, even though the CAA Conference Talk is not really its own board its just at the bottom instead of going to the school's board. Not sure if GTSwagger can modify that any more than as he currently has it set up. But the point is the general board is still there and it would really be nice if it were more active.

That sounds like a great idea, and I'll see if I can get it done on the UNCW board and post result here. Give me a few min.
01-09-2019 11:17 AM
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RE: CAA Basketball Power Rankings
On the surface I don't see an easy way to get it done, but sent the site admin a PM and Cc'd all CAA mods to see if it's an option.
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