Jack Boyz version 2

(01-08-2019 02:29 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 08:32 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 04:53 PM)Agust Wrote:  Latest news is Dana will hire Gibbs as his DC. I hate this and reeks of buddy hire. Yes, I know Gibbs was once good and all but if you want to clean up the DC which was horrible last year you don't replace it with one that is just as horrible.

Gibbs has shown nothing at tech and will not be able to stop high powered offenses as shown while he was there. Complete garbage of a hire and shows he has no imagination.

He had enough horses to beat UH the last 2 seasons. Fortunately, he won't be facing Big 12 offenses every week in the AAC.

I bet Gibbs does very well at UH.

in 2017 the starting QB was Kyle Allen. Now, Kyle was a good QB but was used horribly by then "fired the next year" OC Brian Johnson. Kyle himself was relieved of his starting job just a few games after himself.

The game was close even with Kyle throwing no more than 10 yards it seemed like on every play. and every play being a slant route (bad oc brian can suck an egg). Houston was not a high powered offense by no means that time.

This year was different. With King starting he was able to drop 49 points on that sorry no good for nothing defense tech had. the only thing that saved them was two things. 1 was our defense was worst. and 2 ...was that that was the first time i ever seen Briles slow down his offense to give his defense guys a rest. or at least try and give his defense a rest. im sure this was at the coachs discretion.

our defense was getting murdered and on the field way to long to stop anything. and with our fast paced offense scoring almost at will against that tech defense briles started to call running plays most of the time to kill the clock and try and keep the tech offense on the bench.

with our weak run game it eventually got out of hand and the lost was ours. our defense couldn't stop anything and briles attempt at trying to slow the pace was lost. now this had nothing to do with the fact that king was murdering the tech defense like a butter knife.

the coach and oc tried to do a different approach then just a shootout and it backfired. it didnt change the fact that the tech defense was garbage. and no...gibbs did not stop houston. 49 points and they could have done more.

i hope they dont hire him. garbage.

And it's not that we wont play any Big 12 teams (we play oklahoma- which we beat) it's that if we might not be able to beat any great offense. we have a few in this conference.

That was a long winded rant to explain 2 straight losses to Texas Tech.

So we are clear, Texas Tech is the ONLY Big 12 school that will give UH a fair shake and do 1 for 1/2 for 2. The Oklahoma game was at NRG with no trip to TDECU. Let me know how your trip to Norman goes.

I honestly hope Gibbs retires and goes the way of the dodo. Both schools will be better off

(01-08-2019 02:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 09:38 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  So you guys are excited about coaches that got fired at ECU?

Brandon Jones & Deke Adams are awful.

This isn’t even true.. I just checked he wasn’t fired at ecu..
he left for cal before ruffins last season

Also jones Oline produces the most productive offense in ecu history

Yeah the O-Line produced the FBS career receptions leader in a offense that runs 3 second patterns. OK.

(01-08-2019 09:47 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 02:29 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 08:32 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 04:53 PM)Agust Wrote:  Latest news is Dana will hire Gibbs as his DC. I hate this and reeks of buddy hire. Yes, I know Gibbs was once good and all but if you want to clean up the DC which was horrible last year you don't replace it with one that is just as horrible.

Gibbs has shown nothing at tech and will not be able to stop high powered offenses as shown while he was there. Complete garbage of a hire and shows he has no imagination.

He had enough horses to beat UH the last 2 seasons. Fortunately, he won't be facing Big 12 offenses every week in the AAC.

I bet Gibbs does very well at UH.

in 2017 the starting QB was Kyle Allen. Now, Kyle was a good QB but was used horribly by then "fired the next year" OC Brian Johnson. Kyle himself was relieved of his starting job just a few games after himself.

The game was close even with Kyle throwing no more than 10 yards it seemed like on every play. and every play being a slant route (bad oc brian can suck an egg). Houston was not a high powered offense by no means that time.

This year was different. With King starting he was able to drop 49 points on that sorry no good for nothing defense tech had. the only thing that saved them was two things. 1 was our defense was worst. and 2 ...was that that was the first time i ever seen Briles slow down his offense to give his defense guys a rest. or at least try and give his defense a rest. im sure this was at the coachs discretion.

our defense was getting murdered and on the field way to long to stop anything. and with our fast paced offense scoring almost at will against that tech defense briles started to call running plays most of the time to kill the clock and try and keep the tech offense on the bench.

with our weak run game it eventually got out of hand and the lost was ours. our defense couldn't stop anything and briles attempt at trying to slow the pace was lost. now this had nothing to do with the fact that king was murdering the tech defense like a butter knife.

the coach and oc tried to do a different approach then just a shootout and it backfired. it didnt change the fact that the tech defense was garbage. and no...gibbs did not stop houston. 49 points and they could have done more.

i hope they dont hire him. garbage.

And it's not that we wont play any Big 12 teams (we play oklahoma- which we beat) it's that if we might not be able to beat any great offense. we have a few in this conference.

That was a long winded rant to explain 2 straight losses to Texas Tech.

So we are clear, Texas Tech is the ONLY Big 12 school that will give UH a fair shake and do 1 for 1/2 for 2. The Oklahoma game was at NRG with no trip to TDECU. Let me know how your trip to Norman goes.

I honestly hope Gibbs retires and goes the way of the dodo. Both schools will be better off

never argued the texas losses. Texas Tech won both games. what i do argue was that somehow his defense is what got them those wins. Nope. Tech won because of their offense. Gibbs had nothing to do with it.

(01-08-2019 04:55 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 09:25 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 04:53 PM)Agust Wrote:  Latest news is Dana will hire Gibbs as his DC. I hate this and reeks of buddy hire. Yes, I know Gibbs was once good and all but if you want to clean up the DC which was horrible last year you don't replace it with one that is just as horrible.

Gibbs has shown nothing at tech and will not be able to stop high powered offenses as shown while he was there. Complete garbage of a hire and shows he has no imagination.

Not so fast my friend. There is a current Pac-12 DC who Dana has his eyes on right now. We can get him if we can get the contract numbers right.

You have a link?

I do not. But I know that we have had extensive discussions with a current Pac-12 DC with ties to Texas about coming to Houston. The $4.5 million salary pool opened up the list of candidates beyond guys like Gibbs.

(01-10-2019 11:18 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 04:55 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 09:25 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 04:53 PM)Agust Wrote:  Latest news is Dana will hire Gibbs as his DC. I hate this and reeks of buddy hire. Yes, I know Gibbs was once good and all but if you want to clean up the DC which was horrible last year you don't replace it with one that is just as horrible.

Gibbs has shown nothing at tech and will not be able to stop high powered offenses as shown while he was there. Complete garbage of a hire and shows he has no imagination.

Not so fast my friend. There is a current Pac-12 DC who Dana has his eyes on right now. We can get him if we can get the contract numbers right.

You have a link?

I do not. But I know that we have had extensive discussions with a current Pac-12 DC with ties to Texas about coming to Houston. The $4.5 million salary pool opened up the list of candidates beyond guys like Gibbs.

Looks like it's starting to get out there. This is what I was referencing.
FootballScoop: What if I told you.....

Looks like you may have a steal there if you land Deruyter:

https://deadspin.com/cals-defensive-turn...1830390105

Surprised no one bigger than Cal has come calling for him.

Gonna make it tough for USF fans to root against Houston now that our former QB is a coach there.

USFFan

(01-11-2019 01:21 PM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-10-2019 11:18 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 04:55 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 09:25 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 04:53 PM)Agust Wrote:  Latest news is Dana will hire Gibbs as his DC. I hate this and reeks of buddy hire. Yes, I know Gibbs was once good and all but if you want to clean up the DC which was horrible last year you don't replace it with one that is just as horrible.

Gibbs has shown nothing at tech and will not be able to stop high powered offenses as shown while he was there. Complete garbage of a hire and shows he has no imagination.

Not so fast my friend. There is a current Pac-12 DC who Dana has his eyes on right now. We can get him if we can get the contract numbers right.

You have a link?

I do not. But I know that we have had extensive discussions with a current Pac-12 DC with ties to Texas about coming to Houston. The $4.5 million salary pool opened up the list of candidates beyond guys like Gibbs.

Looks like it's starting to get out there. This is what I was referencing.
FootballScoop: What if I told you.....

Nice! That sounds like it would be money well spent. I hope they can pull it off.

Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

Houston is now spending 42 and 1/2 million dollars on coaches. Clearly positioning themselves for realignment in 2024 an 2025.

(01-13-2019 05:46 PM)Agust Wrote:  Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

That's not really accurate at all. Maybe so with Blackwell and Dawson, but Jones had just taken the OL job at North Carolina in December, and Carrier and Belk both were being pursued by P5 programs in the south due to their recruiting chops. It was touch and go whether Carrier was going to end up back in Houston due to the dollars being thrown at him by P5 schools in Texas. And if you look at the reaction by the Texas high school coaches on Twitter to the Blake Gideon hire, he may end up being the most impactful hire of the bunch from a recruiting standpoint.

I like the majority of Dana's moves so far. And they will look even better when they announce he has poached a top 25 P5 DC in Tim DeRuyter.

(01-14-2019 10:12 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:46 PM)Agust Wrote:  Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

That's not really accurate at all. Maybe so with Blackwell and Dawson, but Jones had just taken the OL job at North Carolina in December, and Carrier and Belk both were being pursued by P5 programs in the south due to their recruiting chops. It was touch and go whether Carrier was going to end up back in Houston due to the dollars being thrown at him by P5 schools in Texas. And if you look at the reaction by the Texas high school coaches on Twitter to the Blake Gideon hire, he may end up being the most impactful hire of the bunch from a recruiting standpoint.

I like the majority of Dana's moves so far. And they will look even better when they announce he has poached a top 25 P5 DC in Tim DeRuyter.

I like the moves so far also. But, Jones, Belk, and carrier were lured away because he gave them bigger roles. Again, they would have joined the staff on that alone. Im not seeing the money put to good use. Still waiting for the great DC hire.

(01-14-2019 01:07 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:12 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:46 PM)Agust Wrote:  Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

That's not really accurate at all. Maybe so with Blackwell and Dawson, but Jones had just taken the OL job at North Carolina in December, and Carrier and Belk both were being pursued by P5 programs in the south due to their recruiting chops. It was touch and go whether Carrier was going to end up back in Houston due to the dollars being thrown at him by P5 schools in Texas. And if you look at the reaction by the Texas high school coaches on Twitter to the Blake Gideon hire, he may end up being the most impactful hire of the bunch from a recruiting standpoint.

I like the majority of Dana's moves so far. And they will look even better when they announce he has poached a top 25 P5 DC in Tim DeRuyter.

I like the moves so far also. But, Jones, Belk, and carrier were lured away because he gave them bigger roles. Again, they would have joined the staff on that alone. Im not seeing the money put to good use. Still waiting for the great DC hire.

Bigger roles = bigger money. not brain surgery

(01-14-2019 01:30 PM)coogahoopa Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:07 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:12 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:46 PM)Agust Wrote:  Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

That's not really accurate at all. Maybe so with Blackwell and Dawson, but Jones had just taken the OL job at North Carolina in December, and Carrier and Belk both were being pursued by P5 programs in the south due to their recruiting chops. It was touch and go whether Carrier was going to end up back in Houston due to the dollars being thrown at him by P5 schools in Texas. And if you look at the reaction by the Texas high school coaches on Twitter to the Blake Gideon hire, he may end up being the most impactful hire of the bunch from a recruiting standpoint.

I like the majority of Dana's moves so far. And they will look even better when they announce he has poached a top 25 P5 DC in Tim DeRuyter.

I like the moves so far also. But, Jones, Belk, and carrier were lured away because he gave them bigger roles. Again, they would have joined the staff on that alone. Im not seeing the money put to good use. Still waiting for the great DC hire.

Bigger roles = bigger money. not brain surgery

never argued about spending more money. might want to reread the statement.
Pretty much any OL coach will take a position to be a OC at Houston with equal pay.
4.5 is more than double what the previous coaches had to use on their staff and even more than most coaches in the P5 are able to use.

with that kind of money i'd expect some major hires across the board. you can pretty much pick up any line coach and give them a better a higher position with more pay. and again i don't mind the picks so far but is he just getting his friends a raise or is the money being well spent?

im waiting for the dc hire as a lot of it hinges on who it becomes. if it's Deruyter than its well spent in my case.

(01-14-2019 01:07 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:12 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:46 PM)Agust Wrote:  Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

That's not really accurate at all. Maybe so with Blackwell and Dawson, but Jones had just taken the OL job at North Carolina in December, and Carrier and Belk both were being pursued by P5 programs in the south due to their recruiting chops. It was touch and go whether Carrier was going to end up back in Houston due to the dollars being thrown at him by P5 schools in Texas. And if you look at the reaction by the Texas high school coaches on Twitter to the Blake Gideon hire, he may end up being the most impactful hire of the bunch from a recruiting standpoint.

I like the majority of Dana's moves so far. And they will look even better when they announce he has poached a top 25 P5 DC in Tim DeRuyter.

I like the moves so far also. But, Jones, Belk, and carrier were lured away because he gave them bigger roles. Again, they would have joined the staff on that alone. Im not seeing the money put to good use. Still waiting for the great DC hire.

What were your expectations here? We weren't going to get the national WR coach of the year in Tyron Carrier for $150k and an AHC title. He had big money offers, so we needed to pay big money to get him. Same with Belk and Jones. It wasn't some "Co" title that got them here, it was more money. If you were expecting us to take that $4.5 million and go steal Alabama or Clemson's staff, I don't know what to tell you.

(01-14-2019 03:02 PM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:07 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:12 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:46 PM)Agust Wrote:  Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

That's not really accurate at all. Maybe so with Blackwell and Dawson, but Jones had just taken the OL job at North Carolina in December, and Carrier and Belk both were being pursued by P5 programs in the south due to their recruiting chops. It was touch and go whether Carrier was going to end up back in Houston due to the dollars being thrown at him by P5 schools in Texas. And if you look at the reaction by the Texas high school coaches on Twitter to the Blake Gideon hire, he may end up being the most impactful hire of the bunch from a recruiting standpoint.

I like the majority of Dana's moves so far. And they will look even better when they announce he has poached a top 25 P5 DC in Tim DeRuyter.

I like the moves so far also. But, Jones, Belk, and carrier were lured away because he gave them bigger roles. Again, they would have joined the staff on that alone. Im not seeing the money put to good use. Still waiting for the great DC hire.

What were your expectations here? We weren't going to get the national WR coach of the year in Tyron Carrier for $150k and an AHC title. He had big money offers, so we needed to pay big money to get him. Same with Belk and Jones. It wasn't some "Co" title that got them here, it was more money. If you were expecting us to take that $4.5 million and go steal Alabama or Clemson's staff, I don't know what to tell you.

if a line coach will turn down a coordinator job in houston then we might see things differently. i still see us paying 4.5 million for a staff at wvu that was paid 3.3 million.
not the entire staff of course.

(01-14-2019 03:32 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 03:02 PM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:07 PM)Agust Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:12 AM)tccoog10 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:46 PM)Agust Wrote:  Looking at the hires he has coming with him to Houston and it's what you would expect. Mostly his former staff which I'm ok with on the offensive side.

What stands out to me is that he is given over 4 million to build his staff. That is an insane amount for any level if conference.

I'm not really sure the money is put to good use. I mean the staff was going to follow him regardless. Without knowing the exact numbers it looks like he could have gotten a lot less to work with and still brought the same people with him.

I'm hoping the money is reserved for a great DC. Otherwise he just gave his staff raises.

That's not really accurate at all. Maybe so with Blackwell and Dawson, but Jones had just taken the OL job at North Carolina in December, and Carrier and Belk both were being pursued by P5 programs in the south due to their recruiting chops. It was touch and go whether Carrier was going to end up back in Houston due to the dollars being thrown at him by P5 schools in Texas. And if you look at the reaction by the Texas high school coaches on Twitter to the Blake Gideon hire, he may end up being the most impactful hire of the bunch from a recruiting standpoint.

I like the majority of Dana's moves so far. And they will look even better when they announce he has poached a top 25 P5 DC in Tim DeRuyter.

I like the moves so far also. But, Jones, Belk, and carrier were lured away because he gave them bigger roles. Again, they would have joined the staff on that alone. Im not seeing the money put to good use. Still waiting for the great DC hire.

What were your expectations here? We weren't going to get the national WR coach of the year in Tyron Carrier for $150k and an AHC title. He had big money offers, so we needed to pay big money to get him. Same with Belk and Jones. It wasn't some "Co" title that got them here, it was more money. If you were expecting us to take that $4.5 million and go steal Alabama or Clemson's staff, I don't know what to tell you.

if a line coach will turn down a coordinator job in houston then we might see things differently. i still see us paying 4.5 million for a staff at wvu that was paid 3.3 million.
not the entire staff of course.

To be fair that staff had WVU competitive with UT and OU.

Joe Cauthen from Arkansas State is hired as the new DC. ill have to look into this.

You also got our defensive line coach, Brian Early. Both are quality guys. You'll be happy.