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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-13-2019 10:20 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote: Yes - He travelled.
No- The fix isn't in for GSU. SunBelt refs make rec league refs look NBA caliber somedays. I think we can all agree on that. The same homerism for us to say that wasn't a travel is the same as ULM saying the game was fixed.
Sorry ULM. It sucks to lose like that, but if the shoe was on the other foot nobody from your side would be giving the win back to GSU. With that being said, I would say no one should want to draw you guys in the tournament.
I don't think you have seen any ULM fans saying the game was fixed. We have been saying that they missed a traveling call that should have been called and that non-call cost us the game. You are the first Ga State fan that has actually admitted that it was traveling. And, if the shoe was on the other foot, as you stated, there would be plenty Ga State fans on here talking about how y'all were robbed at the end as well.
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InjunJohn86
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-13-2019 09:42 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (01-13-2019 09:36 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote: (01-13-2019 09:27 AM)Klak Wrote: Meanwhile in Statesboro, this WAS called traveling.
Geez. I could see if they were calling that slide but he never had possession of the ball. If he had possession then I could agree with the traveling call. No way you could call that possession to be able to call traveling.
I think by rule, you can't be on the floor and stand up with the ball.
That makes sense. Your body on the ground establishes your position and rising up means that you have moved your position (like lifting your pivot foot).
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-13-2019 10:20 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote: Yes - He travelled.
No- The fix isn't in for GSU. SunBelt refs make rec league refs look NBA caliber somedays. I think we can all agree on that. The same homerism for us to say that wasn't a travel is the same as ULM saying the game was fixed.
Sorry ULM. It sucks to lose like that, but if the shoe was on the other foot nobody from your side would be giving the win back to GSU. With that being said, I would say no one should want to draw you guys in the tournament.
I’m not saying it was fixed. I’m saying it was an inexcusably horrible missed call that cost us the game. I don’t expect y’allto Give us the win back. Unfortunately it is part of the game. I at least feel better the conference recognized it and took some action.
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-13-2019 10:38 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote: (01-13-2019 09:42 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (01-13-2019 09:36 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote: (01-13-2019 09:27 AM)Klak Wrote: Meanwhile in Statesboro, this WAS called traveling.
Geez. I could see if they were calling that slide but he never had possession of the ball. If he had possession then I could agree with the traveling call. No way you could call that possession to be able to call traveling.
I think by rule, you can't be on the floor and stand up with the ball.
That makes sense. Your body on the ground establishes your position and rising up means that you have moved your position (like lifting your pivot foot).
Yeah that’s fair. Sucks but that does look like the right call now.
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InjunJohn86
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-13-2019 09:42 AM)CajunAmos Wrote: (01-13-2019 09:36 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote: (01-13-2019 09:27 AM)Klak Wrote: Meanwhile in Statesboro, this WAS called traveling.
Geez. I could see if they were calling that slide but he never had possession of the ball. If he had possession then I could agree with the traveling call. No way you could call that possession to be able to call traveling.
I think by rule, you can't be on the floor and stand up with the ball.
I do believe you are correct. "A player who dives and catches a loose ball on the floor may legally slide as far as his momentum carries him. This is not a travel. However, once he stops he may not roll over or attempt to stand."
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01-13-2019 11:33 AM |
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
It doesnt look like he had clear possession of the ball until he stood and picked it up. It was just a loose ball until then. I dont know how you call that a travel
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01-13-2019 11:58 AM |
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-13-2019 11:58 AM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote: It doesnt look like he had clear possession of the ball until he stood and picked it up. It was just a loose ball until then. I dont know how you call that a travel
Again, because he was on a knee when he has control of the ball and stands up to shoot making it a travel BY RULE.
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01-13-2019 01:21 PM |
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
Actually, by ncaa rule you can rise from one knee with the ball as long as you're not moving a pivot foot.
(Rule 4-68.6/4-68.1)
But whatever. What's done is done. Ive got no dog in that fight
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-13-2019 02:27 PM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote: Actually, by ncaa rule you can rise from one knee with the ball as long as you're not moving a pivot foot.
(Rule 4-68.6/4-68.1)
But whatever. What's done is done. Ive got no dog in that fight
Both feet moved on the shot...
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2019 04:27 PM by StanMolsonMan.)
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
SBC fans cannot expect to get topnotch officials for Saturday games when all the surrounding P5 conferences also have Saturday games. The pool of Saturday officials available for SBC games is much diminished in quality from the pool of Thursday officials for SBC games. Perhaps the SBC would be better off with a Friday-Sunday schedule when it comes to having a shot at better officials. This would also help with players missing classes, if anyone cares.
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2019 09:47 PM by Fanther.)
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
OK, I'll take a different tack than some other GSU fans.
I'm not gonna buy that we should have lost the Texas State game because of that whole sequence with Simonds and Pearson, nor that the call on Pearson was wrong. It was an out-of-bounds play, not a basketball play. They probably missed Simonds' contact to the nose but that was incidental with no malice.
However, we should have probably lost the ULM game. That was a missed call.
That said, we're 4-0 and not 2-2 and I still firmly believe we're the best team in this league anyway. I don't give a damn if someone "has no respect" for our league record, it's 4-0 and I feel pretty great about looking down at all the other teams in the league. At first I found all the TXST whiners irksome but now they are a source of amusement. Keep crying while we barrel ahead to another regular-season title!
PS: Both Texas State and ULM are good teams and could represent the league in the tourney by winning in New Orleans. For sure.
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
5 step travel by Georgia State. The Georgia Southern call was the right call. A clear travel.
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
The travel call was the right call. It's a pretty easy rule.
We all know what happened at the end of the GSU/ULM game. No, the officials aren't trying to make GSU win. That would be a lack of integrity and I don't believe that applies here.
But it was one of the most blatant missed calls I've ever seen. As someone else mentioned, the six guys on the court in the LA/WKU game was the other.
Interesting to note: In that six man game, the lead official has called about a half dozen final fours. Amazed he missed it.
The league went with a new consortium in officiating starting last year. I think the change was a mistake. We've taken a big step back.
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01-14-2019 10:23 AM |
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InjunJohn86
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-14-2019 10:23 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: The travel call was the right call. It's a pretty easy rule.
We all know what happened at the end of the GSU/ULM game. No, the officials aren't trying to make GSU win. That would be a lack of integrity and I don't believe that applies here.
But it was one of the most blatant missed calls I've ever seen. As someone else mentioned, the six guys on the court in the LA/WKU game was the other.
Interesting to note: In that six man game, the lead official has called about a half dozen final fours. Amazed he missed it.
The league went with a new consortium in officiating starting last year. I think the change was a mistake. We've taken a big step back.
Never officiated BB but I did officiate high school football for 15 years. I can be forgiving to an official for a lot of things. I get more upset with an official who is out of position and misses a call. I can live with officials calling a game tight or with "letting them play", as long as they are consistent with both teams and throughout the game. Coaches and players can adjust. That covering official was in position. I haven't seen him before but if he has called other SBC games, then there should be a serious review of his games to see if this was a "screw up" or if he is just not up to par to call D1 games. I say that because the entire league needs to insist on competent officials in all sports.
The 6 man game just baffles me. I know in football, we counted every play. Referee and Umpire counted offense and 2 deep officials counted defense. And we signaled each other to confirm either too few (open hand), right count (closed fist) or no signal meaning too many. How 3 officials didn't see 6 is beyond me
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
(01-14-2019 10:23 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote: The travel call was the right call. It's a pretty easy rule.
We all know what happened at the end of the GSU/ULM game. No, the officials aren't trying to make GSU win. That would be a lack of integrity and I don't believe that applies here.
But it was one of the most blatant missed calls I've ever seen. As someone else mentioned, the six guys on the court in the LA/WKU game was the other.
Interesting to note: In that six man game, the lead official has called about a half dozen final fours. Amazed he missed it.
The league went with a new consortium in officiating starting last year. I think the change was a mistake. We've taken a big step back.
As an official, missing six men on the court happens. That misses 5 step travel never happens.
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
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RE: Sun Belt basketball schedule for Week 10 (Mon Jan. 7 thru Sun Jan. 13)
Ha. That's kind of funny. Not only does he admit it, but says he pushed off too...
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