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RE: 2019 FB Off-Season Thread
(08-25-2019 08:37 PM)olddawg Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 08:12 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 06:45 PM)#20fromalongtimeago Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 05:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Two ECU players charged with felonies for breaking in cars.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...134760847/
I don't care... HCMH is a lying sack of s#&#. The reason we lost to Colgate is because of his desire to promote himself. Team first BS from a dude that probably orchestrated the entire leaking of the Charlotte job himself to get the job at ECU. He was good while here however his departure was unfortunate and he hurt the players in the program w/ his drama. I don't like seeing student athletes getting in trouble and Houston will do a decent job as a disciplinarian and building a winning approach and culture. If successful, he will bolt leaving many student athletes and their families behind. I hope we don't have to read another post about ECU on this board... I would rather see posts about JMU and their student athletes.

I did think that the time would eventually come, but I really thought he would do in a much better, more professional way. I always thought of him as a guy that liked to do things the right way and I feel like he didn't do that at the end. The whole thing at the end was a circus. It was a distraction not just for the players, but the coaching staff and there's no wonder both struggled versus Colgate. I'll never forget the look on his face during the post game conference.
Coach Houston used to be my favorite head coach of any team I've been a fan of, but those last few weeks tarnished that reputation. I don't hate the guy, but really wish he could have done things differently. His aspirations got in the way from doing the right thing for the school that trusted him, as well as the players that looked up to him.
If he continues to have success, there's zero doubt in my mind he'll be elsewhere. There's a part of me that hopes he regrets leaving JMU and doesn't find a job that treats him as well as we did.

I like HCMH and will continue to root for him, but like many was not pleased with the end of his tenure. Not that he left-( he picked a good time to advance his career), but rather w/ the drama and distractions that undoubtedly led to our subpar performance.

Talked w/ two separate former ECU lettermen over the weekend. They are very happy to have Houston and his staff and are excited for the future. Interestingly though, both said (unprompted) that they expect him to move on to UNC if he turns ECU around. It is kinda weird here in the Triangle how many people are friends and neighbors w/ former coaches and ADs. Lotta loose lips over BBQ cookouts.

Ditto. Mack Brown is temporary and is at the end of his coaching rope. Coach Houston’s phone didn’t ring at JMU when that job was open. If he can make ECU respectable in 2-3 years, that job is his.
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RE: 2019 FB Off-Season Thread
(08-25-2019 06:45 PM)#20fromalongtimeago Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 05:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Two ECU players charged with felonies for breaking in cars.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...134760847/
I don't care... HCMH is a lying sack of s#&#. The reason we lost to Colgate is because of his desire to promote himself. Team first BS from a dude that probably orchestrated the entire leaking of the Charlotte job himself to get the job at ECU. He was good while here however his departure was unfortunate and he hurt the players in the program w/ his drama. I don't like seeing student athletes getting in trouble and Houston will do a decent job as a disciplinarian and building a winning approach and culture. If successful, he will bolt leaving many student athletes and their families behind. I hope we don't have to read another post about ECU on this board... I would rather see posts about JMU and their student athletes.

The 100+ words that follow the first 3, imply those 3 are a lie.
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Gage Gubrud was beat out at Washington State and will start the season as the backup QB.
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(08-26-2019 05:57 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Gage Gubrud was beat out at Washington State and will start the season as the backup QB.

Ouch. Something tells me he's kicking himself right about now about his decision and EWU fans are laughing their butts off.
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(08-27-2019 08:56 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(08-26-2019 05:57 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Gage Gubrud was beat out at Washington State and will start the season as the backup QB.

Ouch. Something tells me he's kicking himself right about now about his decision and EWU fans are laughing their butts off.

So since the season hasn't started, is he allowed to transfer back down to an FCS team?
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(08-27-2019 09:24 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  
(08-27-2019 08:56 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(08-26-2019 05:57 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Gage Gubrud was beat out at Washington State and will start the season as the backup QB.

Ouch. Something tells me he's kicking himself right about now about his decision and EWU fans are laughing their butts off.

So since the season hasn't started, is he allowed to transfer back down to an FCS team?

Good question. I personally have no idea, but certainly would be a pretty bad look for him. IMO he made his bed and needs to sleep in it.
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RE: 2019 FB Off-Season Thread
(08-27-2019 09:35 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(08-27-2019 09:24 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  
(08-27-2019 08:56 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(08-26-2019 05:57 PM)Jmufan2018 Wrote:  Gage Gubrud was beat out at Washington State and will start the season as the backup QB.

Ouch. Something tells me he's kicking himself right about now about his decision and EWU fans are laughing their butts off.

So since the season hasn't started, is he allowed to transfer back down to an FCS team?

Good question. I personally have no idea, but certainly would be a pretty bad look for him. IMO he made his bed and needs to sleep in it.

I very very seriously doubt it. He had to get a waiver to play this year as he redshirted his first season and then got a medical redshirt for last year. You have a 5 year timeline to play your 4 years of eligibility and he was going into year 6, requiring the waiver. Also, I don't believe you can quit/transfer after school classes start and still play that year at a lower tier (i.e. FBS to FCS).
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RE: 2019 FB Off-Season Thread
(08-03-2019 05:02 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 03:37 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 01:37 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 10:48 PM)Purple Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 10:12 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  Houston has experienced success at every level, not just at the CIT and JMU. It may take him longer to get the program in a position to win at ECU, but Houston’s track record says he succeeds in doing just that.

Time will tell. I don't see it. He is not walking into a stacked house at ECU like the one he found at JMU.
Yeah he walked into a stacked house at the Citadel. So stacked that they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 20 years, but he had them there in his 2nd year, and won a playoff game to boot.

He walked into a stacked house at Lenoir-Rhyne. So stacked they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 30 years. He had them winning conference championships in all 3 of his seasons as HC & made the NC his 3rd season.

True. And while JMU was loaded, it was underperforming. The CIT was a program with a proud history, but had really fallen into a pattern of mediocrity. Making the playoffs at the CIT and beating P5 South Carolina was an eye-opener, and there’s no denying Houston’s impact in coaching JMU to the road win over NDSU and consecutive NC appearances.

While the ECU situation is going to be tougher to generate an immediate turn-around, Houston is in his prime and has a solid staff. I would not be surprised that he leads the team to 6 wins and makes a bowl game his first year.

I actually sort of expect this, and even 7, 8, or 9 wins wouldn’t shock me.

EZU has a weak schedule this year compared to last, enough to make a 3 or 4 game win difference even without a coaching change. Last year they played the top of the AAC, this year they have two easy FCS games plus the bottom of the AAC (SMU, UConn, etc)

Houston will motivate them, and their defense will almost certainly improve with Trott. Even a meh offense should have them winning much more than in the past.

Stumbled across this while looking for something else.

ECU 3-9/1-7 last year. With an easier OOC schedule, they go 4-8/1-7, with their OOC wins over Garner Webb, W&M (only 19-12) and Oduh (only 24-21), and 1 conference win again over god awful UConn.

ECU defense yielded:
2018: 37.3 ppg/439.8 ypg
2019: 33.7 ppg/469.3 ypg
Don’t really see any improvement..
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RE: 2019 FB Off-Season Thread
(12-06-2019 02:04 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 05:02 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 03:37 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 01:37 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 10:48 PM)Purple Wrote:  Time will tell. I don't see it. He is not walking into a stacked house at ECU like the one he found at JMU.
Yeah he walked into a stacked house at the Citadel. So stacked that they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 20 years, but he had them there in his 2nd year, and won a playoff game to boot.

He walked into a stacked house at Lenoir-Rhyne. So stacked they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 30 years. He had them winning conference championships in all 3 of his seasons as HC & made the NC his 3rd season.

True. And while JMU was loaded, it was underperforming. The CIT was a program with a proud history, but had really fallen into a pattern of mediocrity. Making the playoffs at the CIT and beating P5 South Carolina was an eye-opener, and there’s no denying Houston’s impact in coaching JMU to the road win over NDSU and consecutive NC appearances.

While the ECU situation is going to be tougher to generate an immediate turn-around, Houston is in his prime and has a solid staff. I would not be surprised that he leads the team to 6 wins and makes a bowl game his first year.

I actually sort of expect this, and even 7, 8, or 9 wins wouldn’t shock me.

EZU has a weak schedule this year compared to last, enough to make a 3 or 4 game win difference even without a coaching change. Last year they played the top of the AAC, this year they have two easy FCS games plus the bottom of the AAC (SMU, UConn, etc)

Houston will motivate them, and their defense will almost certainly improve with Trott. Even a meh offense should have them winning much more than in the past.

Stumbled across this while looking for something else.

ECU 3-9/1-7 last year. With an easier OOC schedule, they go 4-8/1-7, with their OOC wins over Garner Webb, W&M (only 19-12) and Oduh (only 24-21), and 1 CAA win again over god awful UConn.

ECU defense yielded:
2018: 37.3 ppg/439.8 ypg
2019: 33.7 ppg/469.3 ypg
Don’t really see any improvement..

Don't let facts get in the way........if we have learned nothing else from this board.......how dare you say anything that could be construed as a negative toward MH. That man has the utmost level of integrity and very well may be the best football coach to ever grace a sideline.

Folks on this board would stand in line to buy raffle tickets to get a pair of MH's game worn underwear ( I am pretty sure some would knock down their mother just for the chance)
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I think JMU and NDSU prove that sometimes you're a program and not just a coach. JMU is a successful program.
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RE: 2019 FB Off-Season Thread
(12-06-2019 02:04 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 05:02 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 03:37 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 01:37 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-02-2019 10:48 PM)Purple Wrote:  Time will tell. I don't see it. He is not walking into a stacked house at ECU like the one he found at JMU.
Yeah he walked into a stacked house at the Citadel. So stacked that they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 20 years, but he had them there in his 2nd year, and won a playoff game to boot.

He walked into a stacked house at Lenoir-Rhyne. So stacked they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 30 years. He had them winning conference championships in all 3 of his seasons as HC & made the NC his 3rd season.

True. And while JMU was loaded, it was underperforming. The CIT was a program with a proud history, but had really fallen into a pattern of mediocrity. Making the playoffs at the CIT and beating P5 South Carolina was an eye-opener, and there’s no denying Houston’s impact in coaching JMU to the road win over NDSU and consecutive NC appearances.

While the ECU situation is going to be tougher to generate an immediate turn-around, Houston is in his prime and has a solid staff. I would not be surprised that he leads the team to 6 wins and makes a bowl game his first year.

I actually sort of expect this, and even 7, 8, or 9 wins wouldn’t shock me.

EZU has a weak schedule this year compared to last, enough to make a 3 or 4 game win difference even without a coaching change. Last year they played the top of the AAC, this year they have two easy FCS games plus the bottom of the AAC (SMU, UConn, etc)

Houston will motivate them, and their defense will almost certainly improve with Trott. Even a meh offense should have them winning much more than in the past.

Stumbled across this while looking for something else.

ECU 3-9/1-7 last year. With an easier OOC schedule, they go 4-8/1-7, with their OOC wins over Garner Webb, W&M (only 19-12) and Oduh (only 24-21), and 1 conference win again over god awful UConn.

ECU defense yielded:
2018: 37.3 ppg/439.8 ypg
2019: 33.7 ppg/469.3 ypg
Don’t really see any improvement..

Yeah, that's what I have been saying. A GOOD coach would come in and Year One at least change the attitude of perpetual loser to one of hopeful optimism and some sort of improvement that fans can hang their hats on and know that they are moving in the right direction. It takes more than fiery pre-game speeches to do that. You have to actually get the players and staff to buy in to what you are selling. Maybe, as some here have suggested, that will happen in years to come, but it certainly didn't happen this year. It's just another year of the SOS for ECU.

I propose a toast: Thank you, ECU, for sending Curt Cignetti to JMU!
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(12-06-2019 02:48 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(12-06-2019 02:04 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 05:02 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 03:37 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(08-03-2019 01:37 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Yeah he walked into a stacked house at the Citadel. So stacked that they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 20 years, but he had them there in his 2nd year, and won a playoff game to boot.

He walked into a stacked house at Lenoir-Rhyne. So stacked they hadn’t been to the playoffs in about 30 years. He had them winning conference championships in all 3 of his seasons as HC & made the NC his 3rd season.

True. And while JMU was loaded, it was underperforming. The CIT was a program with a proud history, but had really fallen into a pattern of mediocrity. Making the playoffs at the CIT and beating P5 South Carolina was an eye-opener, and there’s no denying Houston’s impact in coaching JMU to the road win over NDSU and consecutive NC appearances.

While the ECU situation is going to be tougher to generate an immediate turn-around, Houston is in his prime and has a solid staff. I would not be surprised that he leads the team to 6 wins and makes a bowl game his first year.

I actually sort of expect this, and even 7, 8, or 9 wins wouldn’t shock me.

EZU has a weak schedule this year compared to last, enough to make a 3 or 4 game win difference even without a coaching change. Last year they played the top of the AAC, this year they have two easy FCS games plus the bottom of the AAC (SMU, UConn, etc)

Houston will motivate them, and their defense will almost certainly improve with Trott. Even a meh offense should have them winning much more than in the past.

Stumbled across this while looking for something else.

ECU 3-9/1-7 last year. With an easier OOC schedule, they go 4-8/1-7, with their OOC wins over Garner Webb, W&M (only 19-12) and Oduh (only 24-21), and 1 CAA win again over god awful UConn.

ECU defense yielded:
2018: 37.3 ppg/439.8 ypg
2019: 33.7 ppg/469.3 ypg
Don’t really see any improvement..

Don't let facts get in the way........if we have learned nothing else from this board.......how dare you say anything that could be construed as a negative toward MH. That man has the utmost level of integrity and very well may be the best football coach to ever grace a sideline.

Folks on this board would stand in line to buy raffle tickets to get a pair of MH's game worn underwear ( I am pretty sure some would knock down their mother just for the chance)

Funny.... and true!04-cheers
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(07-12-2019 09:40 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  He turned himself in Wednesday. I’d forgotten he’d been a UDFA with the Falcons..If the allegations are even close to being true, then obviously his LE career is probably over before it even began.
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/new...701524001/

Not sure what came of this? Spent a couple of minutes, no luck, in trying to run down what happened during his arraignment in November 2019.
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