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(01-08-2019 08:25 AM)VB Monarch Wrote:  Great point. Texting has now expanded to some degree to the 40-50 year olds as well. I look around at games and it seems 1/3 of the fans are texting during the game. Not sure how shortened attention spans will play outin the future. Maybe all broadcast games will become a series of cut backs to multiple games at the same time?highlights rather than fiull game.

Future will be live gambling on games with viewer able to gamble live with screen showing game, plus stat, gambling percentage, etc.., some networks already rolling this out......
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I'm not a gambler so never thought about that. That's wild! Would states have to vote to allow this in their state?
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(01-08-2019 08:32 AM)VB Monarch Wrote:  I'm not a gambler so never thought about that. That's wild! Would states have to vote to allow this in their state?

Yes so far 8 states have passed to allow....Washington DC is showing Wizards game Thursday with gambling stats and views incorporated into broadcast...Kentucky should pass yesterday but this state is so backwards will be one of the last states to jump on board....Kentucky needs all the revenue we can get for this state...
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(01-07-2019 09:20 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 08:51 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Marshall fans only have MySpace,

Yeah and Charlotte is not in my Top 8!

You should write about it on your Geocities blog.
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(01-01-2019 08:01 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  UNT has the right schedule next year. ACU (FCS), at SMU, at Cal, host Houston. If Littrell has been able to fill in some blanks with his recent recruiting successes, there's no reason to believe he can't win all four of those. Preseason top25 shouldn't be too difficult of a push?
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(01-08-2019 02:13 PM)wh49er Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 09:20 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 08:51 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Marshall fans only have MySpace,

Yeah and Charlotte is not in my Top 8!

You should write about it on your Geocities blog.

Going to Ask Jeeves so I look up this Geocities.
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(01-05-2019 10:52 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 09:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 06:39 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 11:31 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(01-04-2019 10:27 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  The Sun Belt is in a tough spot right now. App St. lost Satterfield, and Troy could be losing Brown. Those were the two best football programs. Arkansas State is the only program worth having, but I have no interest in expanding beyond our current 14. Truth is I'd prefer we shed an under preforming team in the east and west and be at 12.



Ark St averages 992/game in basketball....no thanks!

Are we a basketball centric conference or a football centric conference? I'm sure we have a program or two that linger around 1,000 per basketball game too.


Troy is arguably the best football program in the Sun Belt and they have good attendance (for Sun Belt) in both football and men's basketball. Louisiana has the best overall fan base in the Sun Belt but they haven't really won anything that I can remember? Either way, according to 2018 attendance, those are the two biggest fan bases.

Troy is losing Brown, so they are huge question mark right now. It is hard to believe their next coach can keep them at their current level of play, and their basketball isn't anything special. App State is in the same situation with their football program. The ULL fan base is annoying. Combine that with the fact they have been losing, and we really don't need them. Arkansas State has a smart AD. If North Texas would not have poached their basketball coach, they would be pretty good right now. I think within a few years Arkansas State will be among the top football and basketball programs in the Belt. Of course, they think their is a place in the AAC for them, so I doubt they would be interested, and we have too many members right now. C-USA needs to get down to 12 programs.

There aren't any perfect candidates. We all have strengths and weaknesses. If there ever is a merger, I just hope that the bottom two Sun Belt schools are left behind, whomever they are. There are two or three schools in that conference who don't belong in FBS at all.
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You could say the same about some members of C-USA. We have no reason to sneer at any member of the Sunbelt. We should merge and form 4 divisions along political/geographic lines. But, as I mentioned, you need approval for a 4-team playoff before doing so.
This would be neat:
Marshall
WKU
MTSU
ODU
Charlotte
Appy State

Coastal Carolina
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
ULaMo
Texas State

FIU
FAU
Georgia Southern
UAB
USM
La Tech

ULaLa
Ark State
Rice
UNT
UTSA
UTEP

Consolidate and strengthen. Any movement in any conference above it barely affects it.
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(01-11-2019 09:49 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  You could say the same about some members of C-USA. We have no reason to sneer at any member of the Sunbelt. We should merge and form 4 divisions along political/geographic lines. But, as I mentioned, you need approval for a 4-team playoff before doing so.
This would be neat:
Marshall
WKU
MTSU
ODU
Charlotte
Appy State

Coastal Carolina
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
ULaMo
Texas State

FIU
FAU
Georgia Southern
UAB
USM
La Tech

ULaLa
Ark State
Rice
UNT
UTSA
UTEP

Consolidate and strengthen. Any movement in any conference above it barely affects it.

I took your lead and tried to maintain the rivalries a little better. Yell at me if this is worse.

Charlotte
App
Coastal
ODU
GA State
GaSo


Tex State
UTSA
UTEP
UNT
Rice
LA Tech

Ulala
ULM
FIU
FAU
USM
Troy

Marshall
UAB
WKU
MTSU
Ark State
South Alabama

Honestly I'd rather keep it two conferences for the basketball bids. I love to rile up our friends at the belt (and they have a 25 page thread about a comment I made, so I'm pretty happy about that), but at this point, this is logical, and almost necessary for all of our survivals. Biggest issues are the dividing line, meaning somebody in Alabama would probably be screwed, and no disrespect, but South Alabama would probably be picked last if this was gym class. The F_U's are a bit of a geographical outlier for something like this as well. If this happened, JMU and Liberty would do whatever they could do try to get in on it.

Being in a basketball conference with some of those guys though... 03-puke

Gotta say though, imagine the baseball.
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You have to separate ULaMo and La Tech, the 4 Texas schools and TSU, UAB and USA/Troy. And you split-up UAB and USM.
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(01-07-2019 03:14 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 02:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-07-2019 01:18 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(01-06-2019 11:12 AM)TTT Wrote:  We need more CONFERENCE games on actual TV sets on Saturdays (and perhaps Thursday's & Friday's)...therefore more restaurants/bars across the nation will be airing them for the casual football fans. People say that many are cutting cable and that may be true but many casual fans also drink and watch football in bars/restaurants so there is still a lot of utility in having games on actual TV sets. This is huge for building our brand. Besides, unless the businesses are hardcore fans (which by far most aren't) they are not going to stream the ESPN3/+ games on their TVs but if they are on 1/2/U/News/CBS sports/FS1 then it's more likely they will be casually seen across the nation.

Same goes for basketball. I hate going into bars and seeing our non-conference rivals on actual TV when CUSA (thats you Judy) can't seem to get us on the air. Recruits want to go to schools where the teams are on TV. Theres no excuse for a conference as good as CUSA, with the markets we have, to not have 50% of our games, for both football and basketball, broadcast somewhere on actual television.

What are you calling TV? The post you quoted said "TV" was espn, espn2, espnu, espnnews, CBSSports, FS1. Lets break that down a little bit. That's 6 channels if you count espn news as a channel that carries ball games all day..I dont believe one of those channels carries NCAA Basketball all day long.

Anyways, 6 channels and a basketball game takes 2 hours. Time slots of 11am, 1pm, 3pm, 5pm, 7pm. So a total of 5 basketball games shown on a Saturday..if all each channel showed was basketball....its not.

There's a total of 30 time slots with basketball being shown from 11am to 7pm, on "TV". CUSA had 7 games played this past Saturday and you think 50% of them should be on "real TV"...the 6 channels listed? Other words you think CUSA should be getting 3 to 4 games shown on real TV.

This coming Saturday schedule:

11am
espn...UofL vs UNC
CBSSN Miami Oh vs Buffalo (#19)
espn2 KST vs #20 Iowa State
FS1 Providence vs G-Town
espnu Oklahoma State vs West Virginia

Some other games played in that slot that would rank above any CUSA game
#15 NCST vs Pittsburgh
#4 Virginia vs Clemson

1:00 PM CT
espn #1 Duke vs 13 Florida State
FS1 #21 Marquette vs Seton Hall
espn2 Illinois State vs Loyola-Chicago
espnu South Florida vs Temple
CBSS Davidson vs VCU

Some other games played in that slot that would rank above any CUSA game
#8 Texas Tech vs Texas
#23 Oklahoma vs #25 TCU
#16 Ohio State vs Iowa

3pm only 2 games on espn and both have top 11 team playing and 1 other game on "TV" a MWC game on CBSS. Just like above there's more other better games than the MWC or CUSA

5PM there's 4 games on "TV" two of those have ranked teams playing. Another is showing the ACC and the other AAC. espn is paying MILLIONS to both conference...yet you think they should show CUSA

Our fans have unrealistic views of this conference and TV

FTR, I was strictly speaking football. That being said, here's a list of college football games that were on ESPN/2/U/News/CBSSports on Thursdays/Fridays/Saturdays this past year:

NC A&T vs. Jacksonville State ESPN 8/25 (Saturday)
New Mexico State vs. Wyoming ESPN2 8/25 (Saturday)
NC A&T vs. SC State ESPNU 9/27 (Thursday)
Princeton vs. Columbia ESPNU 9/28 (Friday)
Georgia State vs. Troy ESPNU 10/4 (Thursday)
Dartmouth vs. Yale ESPNU 10/5 (Friday)
Georgia Southern vs. Texas State ESPNU 10/11 (Thursday)
Georgia State vs. Ark. State ESPNU 10/18 (Thursday)
Yale vs. Penn ESPNU 10/19 (Friday)
Toledo vs. WMU ESPN2 10/25 (Thursday)
Ball State vs. Ohio CBSSports 10/25 (Thursday)
App State. vs. Georgia Southern ESPNU 10/25 (Thursday)
Ohio vs. WMU ESPNU 11/1 (Thursday)
NIU vs. Akron CBSSports 11/1 (Thursday)
Penn vs. Cornell ESPNU 11/2 (Friday)
Toledo vs. Kent State CBSSports 11/15 (Thursday)
Akron vs. Ohio CBSSports 11/23 (Friday)


...meanwhile, some of these more intriguing CUSA match-ups were on these following "networks":

SMU vs. North Texas STADIUM 9/1 (Saturday)
Marshall vs. WKU STADIUM 9/29 (Saturday)
FAU vs. MTSU FACEBOOK 9/29 (Saturday)
La Tech vs. UAB FACEBOOK 10/6 (Saturday)
MTSU vs. FIU BEINSPORTS (which isn't even on DirecTV or Comcast anymore and prob. won't be ever again) 10/13 Saturday
North Texas vs. UAB BEINSPORTS 10/20 (Saturday)
FIU vs. WKU BEINSPORTS 10/27 (Saturday)
Southern Miss vs. Marshall FACEBOOK 11/3 (Saturday)
FAU vs. FIU STADIUM 11/3 (Saturday)
Southern Miss vs. UAB BEINSPORTS 11/10 (Saturday)
WKU vs. FAU FACEBOOK 11/10 (Saturday)
La Tech vs. Southern Miss STADIUM 11/17 (Saturday)
Marshall vs. FIU FACEBOOK 11/23 (Saturday)

Sure, some of these teams ended up under-performing this year but that's not the point...the point is, these are some of CUSA's more "brand-name teams". IMO we should ALL wanting to trade a Saturday CUSA matchup on BeIn/Stadium/Facebook if it means we'd get it on a Thursday/Friday night on ESPN/2/U/News/CBSSports. We should want that trade all day every day.

I think CUSA should try to get more of our conference matchups on that Thursday/Friday night ESPNU/2/CBSSports slot that tends to go towards MAC/SB/Ivy League...

Why not give CBSSN our “A” games, let those be played on Saturday, and then give ESPN our “B” level games, and allow some of those to be played on weeknights?? Basically, CBSSN would have first pick, and then ESPN would pick next.
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(01-11-2019 09:49 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  You could say the same about some members of C-USA. We have no reason to sneer at any member of the Sunbelt. We should merge and form 4 divisions along political/geographic lines. But, as I mentioned, you need approval for a 4-team playoff before doing so.
This would be neat:
Marshall
WKU
MTSU
ODU
Charlotte
Appy State

Coastal Carolina
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
ULaMo
Texas State

FIU
FAU
Georgia Southern
UAB
USM
La Tech

ULaLa
Ark State
Rice
UNT
UTSA
UTEP

Consolidate and strengthen. Any movement in any conference above it barely affects it.

This kind of thing would really work. 5 in-division games and one game against teams from other divisions + 4 OOC games. From the scheduling point-of-view it works.
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Just say no to the SunBelt
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(01-14-2019 09:42 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  Just say no to the SunBelt

Yes, the Sun Belt is doing just fine. You all need to clean up your own mess. Don't involve us.
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I would start with seeking new leadership for sure. The next thing would be to actively move to get our ESPN+ games put on the local terrestrial stations. Believe it or not but is Joe local has to choose between Tech vs North Texas or Northwestern vs Purdue for their 11 O'clock game or 2 O'clock game they are gonna go with the local team instead of the spoon fed BigTen leftovers that ESPN is feeding them. Also attendance and facility upgrades have to be addressed across the board.
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