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RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach
(Today 11:52 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  
(Today 11:41 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  lol JTIII coming to CAA James Madison

Funniest name to be thrown out yet

You must have missed the Rick Pitino suggestion a while back.
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RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach
(Today 12:04 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(Today 10:38 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(Today 08:47 AM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:53 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:48 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  Give it a rest with the hyberbole.

Do I think it is a 'big deal' for a head coach at JMU want to be part of the Harrisonburg/Rockingham County coummunity.....hell yes I do. If you don't want to live in the community where you coach I find it hard to believe you can engage the local community which is desperately needed. Heck you could even live in Augusta County and be in the greater area community.

I don't care if a successful coach's wife and kids never drop a shoe in rockingham county. I want ncaa appearances and p5 fights with an occasional p5 win.

Building the brand nationality matters, trite community engagement speak is bull****.

The community talk is fine and sounds good in the daily news record. Where has it gotten jmu basketball? We need to focus on national matters if we are a national university.

Ditto. The only thing I'm worried about with the community is getting JMU and the Harrisonburg area to give a damn about JMU basketball again. Win and that will happen. Brady didn't win enough to make up for just how much Sherm and Keener killed fan interest, but anyone who was in Richmond for the championship game against Northeastern or in Dayton for the tournament games saw flashes of what can happen if we win enough. Unfortunately after winning a very weak CAA and getting a 16 seed he followed it up with a 7th place team the next year and never winning another CAA tournament game his last three years.

Now obviously some name that can bring some immediate excitement along with the new arena would be a nice bonus, but I don't know if that guy is out there... All of those that have been mentioned here probably range from about a 1% long shot to completely impossible. Just firing Lou and paying what's needed for a good coach and getting a guy with a solid resume is gonna bring a little excitement for the bigger fans that can't wait to get back on board, a lot of the names that are exciting to us on here but not completely impossible probably aren't gonna mean a whole lot to the more casual fans anyway.

If we win, I have zero concerns about the support. In every other sport when the team succeeds the community comes out and backs them.
I have no doubt the same will happen for basketball. However, I think it's going to take some time. They've been so bad for so long a winning streak could easily look like a fluke to some. It's going to take consistent wins for the fan base and the community to start coming out for this team.
Having the new arena will be a massive opportunity for this team to prove people wrong quickly. However, if they can't get wins the fan base is going to be very reluctant to come back.
That is why this next hire is so incredibly important. They need to bring in a guy that can get this team better sooner rather than later. Time is not on the side of the new staff. Struggles are bound to happen, but the fan base is not going to be patient any longer. It will take time for the fan base to support this team. Win a lot of games and the fans will return. Even if they are against garbage teams they just need wins. The fan base hasn't experienced a winning streak over 3 Div I games in over 4 years.

100% agree. Just to be clear, when I said that's the only thing I'm worried about I didn't mean I'm concerned about it, I probably should've worded that a little differently. I meant that it's the only thing I care about as far as the community and that as long as we win that won't be an issue whether the coach lives in his office at AUBC and is very involved in the community or lives as far from it as realistically possible and does nothing for the community aside from giving us a winning basketball team to cheer for. I very, very seriously doubt anyone would've cared one bit about those things with Brady if he had won enough to sometimes be in the conversation for an at large bid and if he had been more successful in the CAA Tournament. It was only an issue because of the mediocrity on the court.

I don't necessarily disagree......if you win enough a lot of off the court things are not an issue (how you handle media, graduation rates, transfer rates, where you reside, etc...)......but when you don't win all of those things quickly become front-burner issues.

Such as.....if you did not live an hour from campus commuting 2 hours a day......is that a significant amount of extra time that could be spent on producing a winning basketball program.....I don't know but it definitely opens the door to that discussion when you don't win enough.
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RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach
(Today 08:44 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:53 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:48 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:45 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  
(Yesterday 09:57 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Remember the other side of the coin - any prospective coach has to want to relocate to Harrisonburg, be willing to take on a project, etc. A coach with the resume like John Beilein (lol seriously?) is not remotely interested in coming to CAA James Madison U. It's got to be as much of a good fit for them as it is for us.

This means the coach has to immediately buy a house in hbg and become a member at First Presbyterian on court square. Kids have to attend spotswood high school and wife has to play bridge at spotswood country club with the Rocco money heirs.

Give it a rest with the hyberbole.

Do I think it is a 'big deal' for a head coach at JMU want to be part of the Harrisonburg/Rockingham County coummunity.....hell yes I do. If you don't want to live in the community where you coach I find it hard to believe you can engage the local community which is desperately needed. Heck you could even live in Augusta County and be in the greater area community.

I don't care if a successful coach's wife and kids never drop a shoe in rockingham county. I want ncaa appearances and p5 fights with an occasional p5 win.

Building the brand nationality matters, trite community engagement speak is bull****.

The community talk is fine and sounds good in the daily news record. Where has it gotten jmu basketball? We need to focus on national matters if we are a national university.

Well good luck building your 'national brand' if you cannot first build a strong local & regional brand. Right now this bball program needs a complete reboot and to be rebuilt from the ground up. Not sure how you expect to go from the current state right to a national brand.

Good luck with that strategy.

While we are stating wishes and wants why stop there.......go big for the Final Four.

I think JMU needs to first concentrate on a winning record and competing in the upper half of the CAA before we get carried away.

Nobody is suggesting we go from standstill to a 100mph. We are suggesting that we not self impose a max speed of 25mph. Let's not continue to sellout being relevant in our home state.
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