With only one game left in the 2018 season I just wanted to take a peak and see how the Sun Belt has done since the realignment took place.


2013 - 2-0 - Wins against Tulane (CUSA) and Ball State (MAC)

2014 - 1-2 - Win against Nevada (MWC) loses against BG (MAC) and Toledo (MAC)

2015 - 2-2 - Wins against BG (MAC) & Ohio (MAC) loses to SJSU (MWC) and LaTech (CUSA)

2016 - 4-2 - Wins against UCF (AAC), Toledo (MAC), Colardo State (MWC), Ohio (MAC) and a loss to Soouthern Miss (CUSA) and Air Force (MWC)

2017 - 4-1 - Wins against North Texas (CUSA) and Western Kentucky (CUSA), Toledo (MAC), Utah State (MWC) and a loss to Southern Middle Tennessee (CUSA)

2018 - 3-1 - Wins against EMU (MAC) and Buffalo (MAC), Middle Tennessee (CUSA) and a loss to Tulane (AAC)


Not too shabby. One losing year and an overall win record of 16-8 or .6667. If stAte pulls out a victory this Saturday that'll bump up the win percentage to .68 and .64 if they lose.


Bowl Record by conference:

Sun Belt vs. CUSA: 4-3 (.571)
Sun Belt vs. MAC: 8-2 (.800)
Sun Belt vs. MWC: 3-2 (.600)
Sun Belt vs. AAC: 1-1 (.500)

Decided to break it down by team:


Appalachian State - 4-0 (1.00)
Troy - 3-0 (1.00)
Georgia Southern 2-0 (1.00)
New Mexico State 1-0 (1.00)
Idaho - 1-0 (1.00)
Louisiana - 2-2 (.500)
Georgia State - 1-1 (.500)
Arkansas State - 2-3 (.400)
South Alabama - 0-2 (.000)

Team by conference


App vs MAC (3-0)
App vs CUSA (1-0)
Troy vs MAC (2-0)
Troy vs CUSA (1-0)
GS vs MAC (2-0)
NMSU vs MWC (1-0)
Idaho vs MWC (1-0)
ULL vs MWC (1-0)
ULL vs AAC (0-1)
ULL vs CUSA (1-1)
GSU vs MWC (0-1)
GSU vs CUSA (1-0)
stAte vs AAC (1-0)
stAte vs MAC (1-1)
stAte vs CUSA (0-2)
USA vs MAC (0-1)
USA vs MWC (0-1)

This is very interesting! Thanks for posting Yosef Himself!

After this bowl season, StAte will have played every other G5 conference in a bowl in the past 4 years. Has anyone else done that?

(12-26-2018 11:23 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Sun Belt vs. CUSA: 4-3 (.571)
Sun Belt vs. MAC: 8-2 (.800)
Sun Belt vs. MWC: 3-2 (.600)
Sun Belt vs. AAC: 1-1 (.500)

But....but...the MAC is better because they have had more ranked teams and P5 wins. And did you know NIU went to the Orange Bowl ?

(12-27-2018 11:24 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Decided to break it down by team:


Appalachian State - 4-0 (1.00)
Troy - 3-0 (1.00)
Georgia Southern 2-0 (1.00)
New Mexico State 1-0 (1.00)
Idaho - 1-0 (1.00)
Louisiana - 2-2 (.500)
Georgia State - 1-1 (.500)
Arkansas State - 2-3 (.400)
South Alabama - 0-2 (.000)

Not sure what time frame this is looking at, but USA beat SDSU twice in ‘15 and ‘16.

(12-27-2018 01:27 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(12-27-2018 11:24 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Decided to break it down by team:


Appalachian State - 4-0 (1.00)
Troy - 3-0 (1.00)
Georgia Southern 2-0 (1.00)
New Mexico State 1-0 (1.00)
Idaho - 1-0 (1.00)
Louisiana - 2-2 (.500)
Georgia State - 1-1 (.500)
Arkansas State - 2-3 (.400)
South Alabama - 0-2 (.000)

Not sure what time frame this is looking at, but USA beat SDSU twice in ‘15 and ‘16.

Not in a bowl though. This thread is only about that.

(12-27-2018 01:32 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-27-2018 01:27 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(12-27-2018 11:24 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Decided to break it down by team:


Appalachian State - 4-0 (1.00)
Troy - 3-0 (1.00)
Georgia Southern 2-0 (1.00)
New Mexico State 1-0 (1.00)
Idaho - 1-0 (1.00)
Louisiana - 2-2 (.500)
Georgia State - 1-1 (.500)
Arkansas State - 2-3 (.400)
South Alabama - 0-2 (.000)

Not sure what time frame this is looking at, but USA beat SDSU twice in ‘15 and ‘16.

Not in a bowl though. This thread is only about that.

Gotcha, I guess I could have read the title.

(12-27-2018 12:01 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  After this bowl season, StAte will have played every other G5 conference in a bowl in the past 4 years. Has anyone else done that?

In the Sun Belt? No.

(12-27-2018 12:57 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 11:23 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Sun Belt vs. CUSA: 4-3 (.571)
Sun Belt vs. MAC: 8-2 (.800)
Sun Belt vs. MWC: 3-2 (.600)
Sun Belt vs. AAC: 1-1 (.500)

But....but...the MAC is better because they have had more ranked teams and P5 wins. And did you know NIU went to the Orange Bowl ?

I think their perception is perceived better due to the longevity of the conference combined with the population of the rust belt. Almost all have a student population over 20,000 and a few universities have been in existence over 100 years longer than some of our member institutions.

They more than likely put more players into the NFL as well. I don’t have any facts on this, but would love to see some statistics.

(12-27-2018 10:52 PM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  I think their perception is perceived better due to the longevity of the conference combined with the population of the rust belt. Almost all have a student population over 20,000 and a few universities have been in existence over 100 years longer than some of our member institutions.

They more than likely put more players into the NFL as well. I don’t have any facts on this, but would love to see some statistics.

The SBC this year was close to the MWC, but not quite as good. We were better than MAC and CUSA by a noticeable amount. Lest we forget though, last season was a remarkably bad year for the SBC. We have to string great years consecutively, and we have to continue to beat P5s at their place. That isn't happening at a fast enough clip. Most importantly though, we have to have banner years like APP and Troy that get noticed in publications like Sports Illustrated. In short, we need more Cinderella stories like UCF, WMU when they had row the boat guy, Fresno State in the mid 00s, App State when they beat Michigan, etc.

(12-27-2018 12:57 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(12-26-2018 11:23 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Sun Belt vs. CUSA: 4-3 (.571)
Sun Belt vs. MAC: 8-2 (.800)
Sun Belt vs. MWC: 3-2 (.600)
Sun Belt vs. AAC: 1-1 (.500)

But....but...the MAC is better because they have had more ranked teams and P5 wins. And did you know NIU went to the Orange Bowl ?

There’s been a couple of NIU teams no one in the SBC could touch then or now.

I did some perusing through ESPNs list of players from various universities...

The Sun Belt has yet to have a dominant player or 10+ year contributor in the NFL.

We all know Ben Roethlisberger (Miami (OH)), Antonio Brown (Central Michigan), Antonio Gates (Kent State), and Khalil Mack (Buffalo). Other staples include Joe Staley (Central Michigan) and Julian Edelman (Kent State).

To be completely honest, the former Sun Belt player that’s gained the most star power would have to be T.Y. Hilton (FIU) and we all know that school is not a member of the Sun Belt anymore.

Josh Norman (Coastal) would be next best that I can think of and he didn’t play in the Sun Belt.

Maybe this is going too far off topic, but who do you think fits the mold as most dominant or longest active contributor in the NFL?

I think this plays a large role in the perception of our league whether we want to admit it or not.
Thoughts?

(12-28-2018 12:25 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  I did some perusing through ESPNs list of players from various universities...

The Sun Belt has yet to have a dominant player or 10+ year contributor in the NFL.

We all know Ben Roethlisberger (Miami (OH)), Antonio Brown (Central Michigan), Antonio Gates (Kent State), and Khalil Mack (Buffalo). Other staples include Joe Staley (Central Michigan) and Julian Edelman (Kent State).

To be completely honest, the former Sun Belt player that’s gained the most star power would have to be T.Y. Hilton (FIU) and we all know that school is not a member of the Sun Belt anymore.

Josh Norman (Coastal) would be next best that I can think of and he didn’t play in the Sun Belt.

Maybe this is going too far off topic, but who do you think fits the mold as most dominant or longest active contributor in the NFL?

I think this plays a large role in the perception of our league whether we want to admit it or not.
Thoughts?

DeMario Davis has had a pretty good run recently. Got little fan fare early because the first 5 years of his career were with the Browns or Jets. Just signed a 3 year deal this year with New Orleans and is having his best year by far. Stands a decent shot at becoming the first Red Wolf to win a Super Bowl in a long time.

Also, Matt Breida is getting regular carries for the 49ers this year.

(12-28-2018 12:25 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  I did some perusing through ESPNs list of players from various universities...

The Sun Belt has yet to have a dominant player or 10+ year contributor in the NFL.

We all know Ben Roethlisberger (Miami (OH)), Antonio Brown (Central Michigan), Antonio Gates (Kent State), and Khalil Mack (Buffalo). Other staples include Joe Staley (Central Michigan) and Julian Edelman (Kent State).

To be completely honest, the former Sun Belt player that’s gained the most star power would have to be T.Y. Hilton (FIU) and we all know that school is not a member of the Sun Belt anymore.

Josh Norman (Coastal) would be next best that I can think of and he didn’t play in the Sun Belt.

Maybe this is going too far off topic, but who do you think fits the mold as most dominant or longest active contributor in the NFL?

I think this plays a large role in the perception of our league whether we want to admit it or not.
Thoughts?

DeMarcus Ware played for Troy as a member of the Sun Belt.

9x Pro-Bowl
4x All Pro
2x NFL Sack Leader

Osi Umenyiora also played for Troy, right before they were a member of the SBC, though.

2x Pro Bowl
1x All Pro

Lawrence Tynes and Leodis McKelvin also played for Troy. They are not as well known.

(12-28-2018 12:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-28-2018 12:25 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  I did some perusing through ESPNs list of players from various universities...

The Sun Belt has yet to have a dominant player or 10+ year contributor in the NFL.

We all know Ben Roethlisberger (Miami (OH)), Antonio Brown (Central Michigan), Antonio Gates (Kent State), and Khalil Mack (Buffalo). Other staples include Joe Staley (Central Michigan) and Julian Edelman (Kent State).

To be completely honest, the former Sun Belt player that’s gained the most star power would have to be T.Y. Hilton (FIU) and we all know that school is not a member of the Sun Belt anymore.

Josh Norman (Coastal) would be next best that I can think of and he didn’t play in the Sun Belt.

Maybe this is going too far off topic, but who do you think fits the mold as most dominant or longest active contributor in the NFL?

I think this plays a large role in the perception of our league whether we want to admit it or not.
Thoughts?

DeMario Davis has had a pretty good run recently. Got little fan fare early because the first 5 years of his career were with the Browns or Jets. Just signed a 3 year deal this year with New Orleans and is having his best year by far. Stands a decent shot at becoming the first Red Wolf to win a Super Bowl in a long time.

Also, Matt Breida is getting regular carries for the 49ers this year.

I follow the Saints off and on and didn’t even realize he was on the roster. Or should I say, didn’t realize it was the same guy from Arkansas State. Great for him. Hope he can keep it going!

As for Brieda, I had him on my fantasy team until he kept getting injured. He’s off to a nice start. Hopefully he and McGuire can solidify their roles as lead backs. 2 of 32 teams starting Sun Belt running backs to end the season can only improve our perception. I’ll continue pulling for him as well.

(12-28-2018 12:46 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-28-2018 12:25 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  I did some perusing through ESPNs list of players from various universities...

The Sun Belt has yet to have a dominant player or 10+ year contributor in the NFL.

We all know Ben Roethlisberger (Miami (OH)), Antonio Brown (Central Michigan), Antonio Gates (Kent State), and Khalil Mack (Buffalo). Other staples include Joe Staley (Central Michigan) and Julian Edelman (Kent State).

To be completely honest, the former Sun Belt player that’s gained the most star power would have to be T.Y. Hilton (FIU) and we all know that school is not a member of the Sun Belt anymore.

Josh Norman (Coastal) would be next best that I can think of and he didn’t play in the Sun Belt.

Maybe this is going too far off topic, but who do you think fits the mold as most dominant or longest active contributor in the NFL?

I think this plays a large role in the perception of our league whether we want to admit it or not.
Thoughts?

DeMarcus Ware played for Troy as a member of the Sun Belt.

9x Pro-Bowl
4x All Pro
2x NFL Sack Leader

Osi Umenyiora also played for Troy, right before they were a member of the SBC, though.

2x Pro Bowl
1x All Pro

Lawrence Tynes and Leodis McKelvin also played for Troy. They are not as well known.

Current/Active players...I didn’t bring up any Cajuns as our longest tenured players have all retired as well.

(12-28-2018 01:16 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(12-28-2018 12:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-28-2018 12:25 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  I did some perusing through ESPNs list of players from various universities...

The Sun Belt has yet to have a dominant player or 10+ year contributor in the NFL.

We all know Ben Roethlisberger (Miami (OH)), Antonio Brown (Central Michigan), Antonio Gates (Kent State), and Khalil Mack (Buffalo). Other staples include Joe Staley (Central Michigan) and Julian Edelman (Kent State).

To be completely honest, the former Sun Belt player that’s gained the most star power would have to be T.Y. Hilton (FIU) and we all know that school is not a member of the Sun Belt anymore.

Josh Norman (Coastal) would be next best that I can think of and he didn’t play in the Sun Belt.

Maybe this is going too far off topic, but who do you think fits the mold as most dominant or longest active contributor in the NFL?

I think this plays a large role in the perception of our league whether we want to admit it or not.
Thoughts?

DeMario Davis has had a pretty good run recently. Got little fan fare early because the first 5 years of his career were with the Browns or Jets. Just signed a 3 year deal this year with New Orleans and is having his best year by far. Stands a decent shot at becoming the first Red Wolf to win a Super Bowl in a long time.

Also, Matt Breida is getting regular carries for the 49ers this year.

I follow the Saints off and on and didn’t even realize he was on the roster. Or should I say, didn’t realize it was the same guy from Arkansas State. Great for him. Hope he can keep it going!

As for Brieda, I had him on my fantasy team until he kept getting injured. He’s off to a nice start. Hopefully he and McGuire can solidify their roles as lead backs. 2 of 32 teams starting Sun Belt running backs to end the season can only improve our perception. I’ll continue pulling for him as well.

Technically the 49ers starting 2 RBs are from Georgia Southern. Their starter got injured in preseason for the duration of the season.

As a contributing member, the Georgia Southern version of Adrian Peterson played 8 seasons with the Chicago Bears.

(12-28-2018 01:20 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(12-28-2018 12:46 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-28-2018 12:25 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  I did some perusing through ESPNs list of players from various universities...

The Sun Belt has yet to have a dominant player or 10+ year contributor in the NFL.

We all know Ben Roethlisberger (Miami (OH)), Antonio Brown (Central Michigan), Antonio Gates (Kent State), and Khalil Mack (Buffalo). Other staples include Joe Staley (Central Michigan) and Julian Edelman (Kent State).

To be completely honest, the former Sun Belt player that’s gained the most star power would have to be T.Y. Hilton (FIU) and we all know that school is not a member of the Sun Belt anymore.

Josh Norman (Coastal) would be next best that I can think of and he didn’t play in the Sun Belt.

Maybe this is going too far off topic, but who do you think fits the mold as most dominant or longest active contributor in the NFL?

I think this plays a large role in the perception of our league whether we want to admit it or not.
Thoughts?

DeMarcus Ware played for Troy as a member of the Sun Belt.

9x Pro-Bowl
4x All Pro
2x NFL Sack Leader

Osi Umenyiora also played for Troy, right before they were a member of the SBC, though.

2x Pro Bowl
1x All Pro

Lawrence Tynes and Leodis McKelvin also played for Troy. They are not as well known.

Current/Active players...I didn’t bring up any Cajuns as our longest tenured players have all retired as well.

Here's a name for you. George Fant from WKU is starting on the OL for the Seahawks this year.

He wasn't really known on the football side while in the SBC, but he started for WKU's basketball team their last two years in the league and was All Sun Belt one of those years.

I watched him play a fair bit in the Seahawks/Chiefs game Sunday Night (the portion before I turned the game off in disgust as we choked again)… There was a point during that game that there were 4 different players who I had seen play in person against or for AState on the field. Fant on OL for the Seahawks. UCA's Treymon Smith is the Chiefs starting kick returner, and AState's JD McKissic and Kyle Wilson both see time for Seattle. McKissic almost furthered my agony by scoring a TD on us at one point...got stopped at the 1.