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Next up on the chopping block: Pastner
He has struck out in recruiting. The horrendous AD that hired him is gone. And he no longer has a football program in distress to hide behind.

Doing things like losing to Gardner-Webb ( https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/georg...V2RSMnq9K/ ) will only greatly accelerate things.
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Will you be paying Pastner for the next ten years?
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RE: Next up on the chopping block: Pastner
Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?
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RE: Next up on the chopping block: Pastner
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

Don't feel bad. We extended Fedora's contract and he just quit working. When a coach gets guaranteed money for X period of time, regardless of performance, there is no incentive to do a good job....none.
As long as schools are willing to give stupid money to greedy coaches with smart agents/lawyers, it will never end.
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When a coach asks for guaranteed money... but he has never accomplished anything of note... the best thing to show him is the door.
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RE: Next up on the chopping block: Pastner
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

It always amazes me how many bad coaching hires there are. Many eyebrows were raised when Pastner was hired. There are some head coaches and ADs in the conference who know something about the game of basketball and which coaches are ready to coach at the ACC level. You'd think it would be possible for an ACC AD to get good advice.

What I've noticed over the years is that it's usually best to avoid the guy who's only been sorta successful at the level of your school or one level below. Hire someone who's been really sucessful even if he's been at a school that's a couple of rungs lower than your school. See Coach K, among others.

By the way, I keep wondering when Shaka Smart becomes available. When that happens, he should be scooped up by an ACC school. Don't worry about his record at Texas. Texas is the problems, not Shaka Smart. Everyone who knows hoops knows the guy can coach.
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RE: Next up on the chopping block: Pastner
(12-18-2018 03:15 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

It always amazes me how many bad coaching hires there are. Many eyebrows were raised when Pastner was hired. There are some head coaches and ADs in the conference who know something about the game of basketball and which coaches are ready to coach at the ACC level. You'd think it would be possible for an ACC AD to get good advice.

What I've noticed over the years is that it's usually best to avoid the guy who's only been sorta successful at the level of your school or one level below. Hire someone who's been really sucessful even if he's been at a school that's a couple of rungs lower than your school. See Coach K, among others.

By the way, I keep wondering when Shaka Smart becomes available. When that happens, he should be scooped up by an ACC school. Don't worry about his record at Texas. Texas is the problems, not Shaka Smart. Everyone who knows hoops knows the guy can coach.

Shaka comes with a price tag. He is already making $5 million+.
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RE: Next up on the chopping block: Pastner
(12-18-2018 02:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

Don't feel bad. We extended Fedora's contract and he just quit working. When a coach gets guaranteed money for X period of time, regardless of performance, there is no incentive to do a good job....none.
As long as schools are willing to give stupid money to greedy coaches with smart agents/lawyers, it will never end.

Well, outside of getting fired and the embarrassment and stigma associated with getting fired and having it be public knowledge that you were fired and then having to start all over as an assistant because you were already fired as a head coach, I'll agree with you.
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RE: Next up on the chopping block: Pastner
(12-18-2018 03:27 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 03:15 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

It always amazes me how many bad coaching hires there are. Many eyebrows were raised when Pastner was hired. There are some head coaches and ADs in the conference who know something about the game of basketball and which coaches are ready to coach at the ACC level. You'd think it would be possible for an ACC AD to get good advice.

What I've noticed over the years is that it's usually best to avoid the guy who's only been sorta successful at the level of your school or one level below. Hire someone who's been really sucessful even if he's been at a school that's a couple of rungs lower than your school. See Coach K, among others.

By the way, I keep wondering when Shaka Smart becomes available. When that happens, he should be scooped up by an ACC school. Don't worry about his record at Texas. Texas is the problems, not Shaka Smart. Everyone who knows hoops knows the guy can coach.

Shaka comes with a price tag. He is already making $5 million+.

Shaka's price will probably come down quite a bit once he departs Texas. Besides, Texas will probably be paying him for years into the future.
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(12-18-2018 04:11 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 02:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

Don't feel bad. We extended Fedora's contract and he just quit working. When a coach gets guaranteed money for X period of time, regardless of performance, there is no incentive to do a good job....none.
As long as schools are willing to give stupid money to greedy coaches with smart agents/lawyers, it will never end.

Well, outside of getting fired and the embarrassment and stigma associated with getting fired and having it be public knowledge that you were fired and then having to start all over as an assistant because you were already fired as a head coach, I'll agree with you.


Getting fired and walking away with a $12 Million dollar check is wot a lile humiliation, wouldn't you say?
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(12-18-2018 05:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 04:11 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 02:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

Don't feel bad. We extended Fedora's contract and he just quit working. When a coach gets guaranteed money for X period of time, regardless of performance, there is no incentive to do a good job....none.
As long as schools are willing to give stupid money to greedy coaches with smart agents/lawyers, it will never end.

Well, outside of getting fired and the embarrassment and stigma associated with getting fired and having it be public knowledge that you were fired and then having to start all over as an assistant because you were already fired as a head coach, I'll agree with you.


Getting fired and walking away with a $12 Million dollar check is wot a lile humiliation, wouldn't you say?

Anytime you get fired publicly its humiliating. $12 million certainly helps you to deal with that humiliation. But its humilating non the less. Not to mention having to start over as an assistant
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(12-18-2018 09:57 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 05:17 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 04:11 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 02:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 01:18 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Gregory and Hewitt come off the books at the conclusion of this season. Regarding Pastner:

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/josh-...cX6HfRLUM/
https://www.myajc.com/sports/college/det...NmRX5gPrI/

Cost to fire Pastner by year ... ? => speculated sum
2018-19: 100% of 1.7m + 1.9m(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 10.2m
2019-20: 100% of 1.9(?) + 2.0m(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 8.5m
2020-21: 100% of 2.0(?) + 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 6.6m
2021-22: 75% of 2.2m(?) + 2.4m = ~ 3.45m
2022-23: 60% of 2.4m = 1.4m

Why is it GT men's basketball lays a Jurassic Park sized turd shortly after the HC gets extended? And *** **** it Stansbury why extend him after last year?

Don't feel bad. We extended Fedora's contract and he just quit working. When a coach gets guaranteed money for X period of time, regardless of performance, there is no incentive to do a good job....none.
As long as schools are willing to give stupid money to greedy coaches with smart agents/lawyers, it will never end.

Well, outside of getting fired and the embarrassment and stigma associated with getting fired and having it be public knowledge that you were fired and then having to start all over as an assistant because you were already fired as a head coach, I'll agree with you.


Getting fired and walking away with a $12 Million dollar check is wot a lile humiliation, wouldn't you say?

Anytime you get fired publicly its humiliating. $12 million certainly helps you to deal with that humiliation. But its humilating non the less. Not to mention having to start over as an assistant

y'all could talk bad about me all you want for $12 million... you probably talk bad about me now for nothing!
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Hallcity, I understand what you are getting at and I agree but Coach K as an example is a lil off. It's Coach K. Not too many coaches are going to have a career like his. Totally agree on Shaka though. Dude can coach. If GT does pull the trigger on JP, they should look into prying Shaka away from Texas. The Big 12 have decent bball but it isn't the ACC. With Holberg getting canned by "Da Bulls", I wonder which college program will reach out to him. He turned Iowa State into a good program.
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This guy maybe cheaper (& better?) to pry away from Nevada than Shaka from Texas.

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I’d be wary of Musselman, if I were GT. UGA hired Mark Fox out of Nevada, hoping he could spark the program. Instead, he bombed big time, and several Dawg fans were crying for his ouster. I realize that GT has a lot of pride, but if I were Tech, I’d hire Georgia State’s head coach, Dennis Felton. He did a lot of good work at UGA, but it wasn’t enough for our crazy AD. IMO, it was a huge mistake to fire him.
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And just like that, GT goes to Fayetteville and beats Arkansas. Well done GTS, you evil genius. 04-cheers
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(12-20-2018 04:47 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  And just like that, GT goes to Fayetteville and beats Arkansas. Well done GTS, you evil genius. 04-cheers

This does not atone. If Pastner wants quiet for awhile he'll have to boat race UGAg and blow the doors off them.
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