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Bowl Season Starts With Slew of Ratings Lows


Wonder if the bad match ups reduced viewership.

(12-19-2018 08:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/12/...ings-lows/

Bowl Season Starts With Slew of Ratings Lows


Wonder if the bad match ups reduced viewership.

I think that has as much to do with total viewership of TV being down and streaming being up. It's not like any of the match-ups last year were vastly more exciting for these bowls than this year.

I agree 100%


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(12-18-2018 10:11 PM)PrideoftheStAte Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 07:25 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 06:52 PM)PrideoftheStAte Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 03:25 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 12:35 PM)PrideoftheStAte Wrote:  Nothing of what you said is being argued. Bowls are all about money. People will watch pretty much any football game. Even losing teams and their fans like to get extra games.
However, the bowls should be the reward they were intended to be. There should be a change. I know it is all about money but there has to be a cutoff somewhere. Currently the cutoff is 6 wins. I think it should be upped to 7 so it is a reward. If we chase the money and the cutoff lowers even more, then you have a 4-8 P5 team playing another 5-7 P5 team. People would still watch that, but that is not what the bowls ought to be.

Who the hell ever said that "the cutoff" would lower more? The cutoff is 6. I haven't heard anyone talk about lowering it, and besides you, haven't heard anyone suggest raising it.

One thing's certain: raise it, lower it, or leave the damn thing alone, and someone won't like it.

I guess at present, that would be YOU.

Well, by looking at the poll it looks like I'm not alone. 81% of people agree with ME. The cutoff used to be higher. Now it is lower. My point is if we continue making it all about money then that cutoff could lower for P5 teams only because people will watch them. Just because people will watch the game and the kids will have fun does not make it the right thing to do or help our teams play better schools in the bowl.

81% of people agree with you. Congratulations, you won a sports message board poll consisting of 2 choices.

So tell me, now that you've "Won." What are you going to do about it?

Nothing. Because it's just a sports message board poll.

Like it or not, 6 wins makes you bowl eligible.

That's hilarious. The forum is for people to talk about sports. I said my opinion on the subject which most people agree with. Not sure why you have to be a dick about it. I'm sorry I don't agree with you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why don't you go back and actually read what I posted.

I never said I agreed with your position. . . . and I never said I disagreed with it. I simply pointed out that your poll is about as pointless as your position.

The system is what it is, and neither your poll, nor your position possess any power to change it.

But if all you want to do is vent your spleen about a system you're powerless to change, then by all means carry on.

BTW: If you don't want to see, read posts counter to your own position, perhaps you shouldn't start a poll on a sports message board, Dick.

(12-19-2018 04:28 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 10:11 PM)PrideoftheStAte Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 07:25 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 06:52 PM)PrideoftheStAte Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 03:25 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  Who the hell ever said that "the cutoff" would lower more? The cutoff is 6. I haven't heard anyone talk about lowering it, and besides you, haven't heard anyone suggest raising it.

One thing's certain: raise it, lower it, or leave the damn thing alone, and someone won't like it.

I guess at present, that would be YOU.

Well, by looking at the poll it looks like I'm not alone. 81% of people agree with ME. The cutoff used to be higher. Now it is lower. My point is if we continue making it all about money then that cutoff could lower for P5 teams only because people will watch them. Just because people will watch the game and the kids will have fun does not make it the right thing to do or help our teams play better schools in the bowl.

81% of people agree with you. Congratulations, you won a sports message board poll consisting of 2 choices.

So tell me, now that you've "Won." What are you going to do about it?

Nothing. Because it's just a sports message board poll.

Like it or not, 6 wins makes you bowl eligible.

That's hilarious. The forum is for people to talk about sports. I said my opinion on the subject which most people agree with. Not sure why you have to be a dick about it. I'm sorry I don't agree with you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why don't you go back and actually read what I posted.

I never said I agreed with your position. . . . and I never said I disagreed with it. I simply pointed out that your poll is about as pointless as your position.

The system is what it is, and neither your poll, nor your position possess any power to change it.

But if all you want to do is vent your spleen about a system you're powerless to change, then by all means carry on.

BTW: If you don't want to see, read posts counter to your own position, perhaps you shouldn't start a poll on a sports message board, Dick.

If we only discussed things that we can change personally then we wouldn't be on this forum, idiot. Can you change whether a kid commits to your school? Nope. Do you discuss it? Yep. Does that make it pointless? Nope. Likewise, this is clearly something on peoples mind and they have their opinions. Does it make the discussion pointless? Nope.

(12-17-2018 05:56 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Give me an ironclad guarantee every 7 win team finds a bowl and I'll endorse the change.

Best post in this thread.

How could that be guaranteed with 7 wins needed for bowl eligibility? We agree that all 7 win teams deserve a bowl game. From year to year, the number of 7 win teams is unknown. How do you plan for the number of bowls needed, to insure that all 7 win teams find a bowl?

When 6 win teams are removed from the equation, the number of bowl games will be reduced, due to lack of eligible teams. It will be reduced to a number which eliminates the risk of an existing bowl game not being filled. What bowl game would want to run the risk of having to cancel, due to lack of eligible teams. The only way to prevent that is to reduce to the point that in some/most years a few 7 win teams sit at home.

The only way to guarantee that all 7 win teams play in a bowl game is to set bowl eligibility at 6 wins, providing the number of bowl games required to insure that all 7 win teams find a bowl.

(12-19-2018 10:53 PM)asuwon Wrote:  

(12-17-2018 05:56 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Give me an ironclad guarantee every 7 win team finds a bowl and I'll endorse the change.

Best post in this thread.

How could that be guaranteed with 7 wins needed for bowl eligibility? We agree that all 7 win teams deserve a bowl game. From year to year, the number of 7 win teams is unknown. How do you plan for the number of bowls needed, to insure that all 7 win teams find a bowl?

When 6 win teams are removed from the equation, the number of bowl games will be reduced, due to lack of eligible teams. It will be reduced to a number which eliminates the risk of an existing bowl game not being filled. What bowl game would want to run the risk of having to cancel, due to lack of eligible teams. The only way to prevent that is to reduce to the point that in some/most years a few 7 win teams sit at home.

The only way to guarantee that all 7 win teams play in a bowl game is to set bowl eligibility at 6 wins, providing the number of bowl games required to insure that all 7 win teams find a bowl.

/thread

Pack it up boys, we’re done here

Yeah, I say it should be a guarantee that if a team gets 7 wins... they SHOULD BE GUARANTEED a bowl...

But having the floor at 6 wins doesn't guarantee every 7 win team goes to a bowl... so, what now?

If advertisers continue to have their way, maybe they'll be enough bowls to flush the NCAA down one of them.

(12-19-2018 09:59 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 08:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/12/...ings-lows/

Bowl Season Starts With Slew of Ratings Lows


Wonder if the bad match ups reduced viewership.

I think that has as much to do with total viewership of TV being down and streaming being up. It's not like any of the match-ups last year were vastly more exciting for these bowls than this year.

But at the end of the day, the TV (or streaming, I suppose) is what is driving the "bowl bus". So it will be interesting to see if we've already reached critical mass, or if it is just an aberration.

That's why the NFL started looking at other nights for games, instead of just more games (that, and the players would want more money for it). The NCAA though, just adds more to the pot, and soon that pot will boil over.

(12-20-2018 11:11 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 09:59 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(12-19-2018 08:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/12/...ings-lows/

Bowl Season Starts With Slew of Ratings Lows


Wonder if the bad match ups reduced viewership.

I think that has as much to do with total viewership of TV being down and streaming being up. It's not like any of the match-ups last year were vastly more exciting for these bowls than this year.

But at the end of the day, the TV (or streaming, I suppose) is what is driving the "bowl bus". So it will be interesting to see if we've already reached critical mass, or if it is just an aberration.

That's why the NFL started looking at other nights for games, instead of just more games (that, and the players would want more money for it). The NCAA though, just adds more to the pot, and soon that pot will boil over.

I don't disagree. But it's also driven by ESPN. That's why they sponsor several of the bowls too. They need programing to fill their days. In December when not much else sports-wise is going on, they have guaranteed blocks of 3 1/2 hours of programming that they can run all month and then several hours more a week talking about them on other programs.

(12-18-2018 07:25 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  81% of people agree with you. Congratulations, you won a sports message board poll consisting of 2 choices.

So tell me, now that you've "Won." What are you going to do about it?

Nothing. Because it's just a sports message board poll.

Like it or not, 6 wins makes you bowl eligible.

The yays might win the poll, but they're losing the argument.