The odds are we will not develop in conference rivals. The odds are in the future our rivals will be Appalachian, Liberty, Coastal & Georgia St. All of them are within 2 to 4 hours away. Nobody wants their neighbor to do better than them.

It’s just stupid to try to force rivalry games. Rivalries can’t be artificially created. They happen naturallly over time.

(12-15-2018 06:11 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The thing to consider about a C-USA rivalry week, and this has been brought up before also, is having to take the big state schools (aka the larger members of the P5) into consideration. When SMU was in the conference, I believe they requested to be on the road for any C-USA games played during OU-Texas week, because the popularity of OU-Texas made it extremely difficult for SMU to have decent attendance. I’m thinking some other schools might be affected by games similar to this and I can see UNT actually being affected by OU-Texas also. That’s why Thanksgiving week C-USA games look kinda bland. The conference has been trying to have a rivalry week earlier in the year, but I would say even it could use some tweaking. UTEP’s biggest rivals are NMSU and UNM, and it’s been that way for several, several years. Somewhat similar to Marshall-Ohio & Marshall-Miami (OH).

UTEP's game with NMSU in 2019 will be on 11/23. Almost always played very early in the season. A good rivalry date this year.

(12-15-2018 09:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  It’s just stupid to try to force rivalry games. Rivalries can’t be artificially created. They happen naturallly over time.

The Sunbelt has force created a rivalry with GaSouthern and GaState. Tyson Summers helped it by going 5-13 in his year and a half here.

Our original rivals were Furman and App State. Furman obviously is no longer, but App most definitely still is...yet we are forced to play GaState during rivalry weekend, and our attendance is possibly a little lower being forced to play App on Thursdays during the season.

(12-15-2018 09:35 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  It’s just stupid to try to force rivalry games. Rivalries can’t be artificially created. They happen naturallly over time.

The Sunbelt has force created a rivalry with GaSouthern and GaState. Tyson Summers helped it by going 5-13 in his year and a half here.

Our original rivals were Furman and App State. Furman obviously is no longer, but App most definitely still is...yet we are forced to play GaState during rivalry weekend, and our attendance is possibly a little lower being forced to play App on Thursdays during the season.

Okay, perhaps I was too general. I can see it if you’re a couple of hours from one another. One would think, though, that a natural rivalry would develop anyway, though now that you are in the same conference.

(12-15-2018 09:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:35 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  It’s just stupid to try to force rivalry games. Rivalries can’t be artificially created. They happen naturallly over time.

The Sunbelt has force created a rivalry with GaSouthern and GaState. Tyson Summers helped it by going 5-13 in his year and a half here.

Our original rivals were Furman and App State. Furman obviously is no longer, but App most definitely still is...yet we are forced to play GaState during rivalry weekend, and our attendance is possibly a little lower being forced to play App on Thursdays during the season.

Okay, perhaps I was too general. I can see it if you’re a couple of hours from one another. One would think, though, that a natural rivalry would develop anyway, though now that you are in the same conference.

Yeah, it’s coming along for sure...no doubt it will naturally progress for the exact reasons you stated. However, App has been there for decades. They are our hate week. We hate GaState also but it’s fueled by a lack of respect because of how they went about moving up (lack of respectable seasons) and their elitist mindsets in that they assume their position as #3 in the state. Most GaSouthern fans respect App, which fuels the hate more. It means something to beat them because it really can define the entire season. Losing to GaState is infuriating moreso than anything because they haven’t proven that they can win anything else significant. Love seeing all the rivalry promotions for GaSouthern vs GaState when one team has 7 or 8 wins and the other has 2. Whenever they can win more, things may change.

(12-15-2018 09:58 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:35 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  It’s just stupid to try to force rivalry games. Rivalries can’t be artificially created. They happen naturallly over time.

The Sunbelt has force created a rivalry with GaSouthern and GaState. Tyson Summers helped it by going 5-13 in his year and a half here.

Our original rivals were Furman and App State. Furman obviously is no longer, but App most definitely still is...yet we are forced to play GaState during rivalry weekend, and our attendance is possibly a little lower being forced to play App on Thursdays during the season.

Okay, perhaps I was too general. I can see it if you’re a couple of hours from one another. One would think, though, that a natural rivalry would develop anyway, though now that you are in the same conference.

Yeah, it’s coming along for sure...no doubt it will naturally progress for the exact reasons you stated. However, App has been there for decades. They are our hate week. We hate GaState also but it’s fueled by a lack of respect because of how they went about moving up (lack of respectable seasons) and their elitist mindsets in that they assume their position as #3 in the state. Most GaSouthern fans respect App, which fuels the hate more. It means something to beat them because it really can define the entire season. Losing to GaState is infuriating moreso than anything because they haven’t proven that they can win anything else significant. Whenever they can, things may change.

I understand what you’re saying. When we were in the SoCon, App was probably our biggest rival next to Furman. So then you all came into the SoCon in what, 1994 or 1995 and were a power in 1-AA. Whenever we played you all, it was viewed as a really important game. If either of us would have gone to 1-A together in the same conference that rivalry would have definitely continued.

I think the Belt putting you all vs. App on Thursday doesn’t make a whole lot of sense considering the already established history and tradition with this rivalry.

(12-15-2018 10:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:58 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:35 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  It’s just stupid to try to force rivalry games. Rivalries can’t be artificially created. They happen naturallly over time.

The Sunbelt has force created a rivalry with GaSouthern and GaState. Tyson Summers helped it by going 5-13 in his year and a half here.

Our original rivals were Furman and App State. Furman obviously is no longer, but App most definitely still is...yet we are forced to play GaState during rivalry weekend, and our attendance is possibly a little lower being forced to play App on Thursdays during the season.

Okay, perhaps I was too general. I can see it if you’re a couple of hours from one another. One would think, though, that a natural rivalry would develop anyway, though now that you are in the same conference.

Yeah, it’s coming along for sure...no doubt it will naturally progress for the exact reasons you stated. However, App has been there for decades. They are our hate week. We hate GaState also but it’s fueled by a lack of respect because of how they went about moving up (lack of respectable seasons) and their elitist mindsets in that they assume their position as #3 in the state. Most GaSouthern fans respect App, which fuels the hate more. It means something to beat them because it really can define the entire season. Losing to GaState is infuriating moreso than anything because they haven’t proven that they can win anything else significant. Whenever they can, things may change.

I understand what you’re saying. When we were in the SoCon, App was probably our biggest rival next to Furman. So then you all came into the SoCon in what, 1994 or 1995 and were a power in 1-AA. Whenever we played you all, it was viewed as a really important game. If either of us would have gone to 1-A together in the same conference that rivalry would have definitely continued.

I think the Belt putting you all vs. App on Thursday doesn’t make a whole lot of sense considering the already established history and tradition with this rivalry.

Exactly. I think if Marshall, App, and GaSouthern moved unat the same time, we all would continue to be rivals from a competitive standpoint. The acknowledgment of and desire for competition makes all 3 better.

I understand why the Belt puts us on Thursday. The whole television thing and all...I still wouldn’t mind skipping on the tv every 3rd year or so for a true Saturday game day atmosphere. I live 3 hours away and so I either have to take off to go to those games or watch it on tv. Saturday relieves that issue. Anyways...I didn’t mean to hijack this thread. Back to CUSA rivalries.

(12-15-2018 10:25 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 10:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:58 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:35 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  The Sunbelt has force created a rivalry with GaSouthern and GaState. Tyson Summers helped it by going 5-13 in his year and a half here.

Our original rivals were Furman and App State. Furman obviously is no longer, but App most definitely still is...yet we are forced to play GaState during rivalry weekend, and our attendance is possibly a little lower being forced to play App on Thursdays during the season.

Okay, perhaps I was too general. I can see it if you’re a couple of hours from one another. One would think, though, that a natural rivalry would develop anyway, though now that you are in the same conference.

Yeah, it’s coming along for sure...no doubt it will naturally progress for the exact reasons you stated. However, App has been there for decades. They are our hate week. We hate GaState also but it’s fueled by a lack of respect because of how they went about moving up (lack of respectable seasons) and their elitist mindsets in that they assume their position as #3 in the state. Most GaSouthern fans respect App, which fuels the hate more. It means something to beat them because it really can define the entire season. Losing to GaState is infuriating moreso than anything because they haven’t proven that they can win anything else significant. Whenever they can, things may change.

I understand what you’re saying. When we were in the SoCon, App was probably our biggest rival next to Furman. So then you all came into the SoCon in what, 1994 or 1995 and were a power in 1-AA. Whenever we played you all, it was viewed as a really important game. If either of us would have gone to 1-A together in the same conference that rivalry would have definitely continued.

I think the Belt putting you all vs. App on Thursday doesn’t make a whole lot of sense considering the already established history and tradition with this rivalry.

Exactly. I think if Marshall, App, and GaSouthern moved unat the same time, we all would continue to be rivals from a competitive standpoint. The acknowledgment of and desire for competition makes all 3 better.

I understand why the Belt puts us on Thursday. The whole television thing and all...I still wouldn’t mind skipping on the tv every 3rd year or so for a true Saturday game day atmosphere. I live 3 hours away and so I either have to take off to go to those games or watch it on tv. Saturday relieves that issue. Anyways...I didn’t mean to hijack this thread. Back to CUSA rivalries.

No worries, man. You didn’t hijack it. Not much going on anyhow. You’ll find most of us over here like a good sports conversation. It’s when people develop a case of craniotomy-rectal inversion and piss in another guy’s pond that all of us tend to get feathers ruffled. You’re all good.

(12-15-2018 10:39 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 10:25 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 10:05 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:58 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 09:40 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Okay, perhaps I was too general. I can see it if you’re a couple of hours from one another. One would think, though, that a natural rivalry would develop anyway, though now that you are in the same conference.

Yeah, it’s coming along for sure...no doubt it will naturally progress for the exact reasons you stated. However, App has been there for decades. They are our hate week. We hate GaState also but it’s fueled by a lack of respect because of how they went about moving up (lack of respectable seasons) and their elitist mindsets in that they assume their position as #3 in the state. Most GaSouthern fans respect App, which fuels the hate more. It means something to beat them because it really can define the entire season. Losing to GaState is infuriating moreso than anything because they haven’t proven that they can win anything else significant. Whenever they can, things may change.

I understand what you’re saying. When we were in the SoCon, App was probably our biggest rival next to Furman. So then you all came into the SoCon in what, 1994 or 1995 and were a power in 1-AA. Whenever we played you all, it was viewed as a really important game. If either of us would have gone to 1-A together in the same conference that rivalry would have definitely continued.

I think the Belt putting you all vs. App on Thursday doesn’t make a whole lot of sense considering the already established history and tradition with this rivalry.

Exactly. I think if Marshall, App, and GaSouthern moved unat the same time, we all would continue to be rivals from a competitive standpoint. The acknowledgment of and desire for competition makes all 3 better.

I understand why the Belt puts us on Thursday. The whole television thing and all...I still wouldn’t mind skipping on the tv every 3rd year or so for a true Saturday game day atmosphere. I live 3 hours away and so I either have to take off to go to those games or watch it on tv. Saturday relieves that issue. Anyways...I didn’t mean to hijack this thread. Back to CUSA rivalries.

No worries, man. You didn’t hijack it. Not much going on anyhow. You’ll find most of us over here like a good sports conversation. It’s when people develop a case of craniotomy-rectal inversion and piss in another guy’s pond that all of us tend to get feathers ruffled. You’re all good.

Another idea...maybe y’all can get together with other out of conference schools and create rivalries. UGA and GT play every single year even though they aren’t in the same conference. GaState and Charlotte are more or less like minded schools. I’m sure Marshall fans love to hate some schools from the MAC. It may be worth starting something.

I wish Southern Miss was our rival, but they own us in football. Baseball is getting more interesting. UNT should be a rival, but it's never felt like that to me.

I think you guys could develop some solid rivalries with the Missouri Valley conference or possibly the Patriot League. Each have a number of “bracket buster” teams in the mix every February and have made a couple deep runs to the sweet 16. Plus geographically many of the teams like Southern Illinois, Evansville, Loyola and American are close by.

(12-16-2018 12:53 AM)SicemDawgz Wrote:  I wish Southern Miss was our rival, but they own us in football. Baseball is getting more interesting. UNT should be a rival, but it's never felt like that to me.

Southern Miss does not own "us". They own Skippy Holtz. Get rid of that turd in the punch bowl, and we'll be just fine.

(12-15-2018 08:50 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  The odds are we will not develop in conference rivals. The odds are in the future our rivals will be Appalachian, Liberty, Coastal & Georgia St. All of them are within 2 to 4 hours away. Nobody wants their neighbor to do better than them.

Charlotte actually isn't that far from Statesboro either. In fact, I think it might be closer than Atlanta is.

(12-17-2018 09:24 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 08:50 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  The odds are we will not develop in conference rivals. The odds are in the future our rivals will be Appalachian, Liberty, Coastal & Georgia St. All of them are within 2 to 4 hours away. Nobody wants their neighbor to do better than them.

Charlotte actually isn't that far from Statesboro either. In fact, I think it might be closer than Atlanta is.

About the same distance as Montgomery.

Statesboro, GA to Charlotte, NC

Conference USA does zero for its members. We help each other when say ODU beats Cuse or VT, WKU and NT beats Arkansas, La Tech beats Witchita St and so on. We help each other with wins for C-USA but C-USA does nothing to help its members.

(12-17-2018 12:30 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(12-17-2018 09:24 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-15-2018 08:50 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  The odds are we will not develop in conference rivals. The odds are in the future our rivals will be Appalachian, Liberty, Coastal & Georgia St. All of them are within 2 to 4 hours away. Nobody wants their neighbor to do better than them.

Charlotte actually isn't that far from Statesboro either. In fact, I think it might be closer than Atlanta is.

About the same distance as Montgomery.

Statesboro, GA to Charlotte, NC

Statesboro to Charlotte: 3 hours and 50 minutes
Montgomery to Charlotte: 6 hours and 20 minutes

(12-16-2018 04:57 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(12-16-2018 12:53 AM)SicemDawgz Wrote:  I wish Southern Miss was our rival, but they own us in football. Baseball is getting more interesting. UNT should be a rival, but it's never felt like that to me.

Southern Miss does not own "us". They own Skippy Holtz. Get rid of that turd in the punch bowl, and we'll be just fine.

He doesn't have a great record against them, but even before Holtz they've historically beat us more or less 2 out of 3 times. Dykes went 0-2, right? I guess Holtz is something like 2-4 at this point?

Not great, but pretty close to our all-time numbers against USM. I think just a touch better.

Charlotte just spent millions of dollars on new coaches to engender some hate from you people. At some point it is on you to actually hate us!

(12-17-2018 06:04 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Charlotte just spent millions of dollars on new coaches to engender some hate from you people. At some point it is on you to actually hate us!

If you ever become a serious threat, then you’ll be hated. Simple!