(12-03-2018 10:39 PM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

I would be really happy with Billy Napier as well

He is good too, but Brown sold me after Troy kick our tails last year in New Orleans. If Littrell leaves, and Brown is still at Troy, we need to poach him.

Harrell looks like the logical choice, but I don't know enough about him to say he's ready. He does a great job with the offense at least.

(12-03-2018 11:04 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Harrell looks like the logical choice, but I don't know enough about him to say he's ready. He does a great job with the offense at least.

In my mind Harrell is NOT the logical choice. First, Baker's hires have been coaches who had previous head coaching experience of which Harrell has none. In fact, his only coaching has been the three years at UNT and one year (I believe) at Washington State as a quarterback or receiver coach. Harrell has the name to recruit this area but not the experience to run a D1 team right now.

Also, I don't know if Harrell wants to be head coach now or ever. He certainly doesn't give off that head coaching vibe. He's usually a very laid back country boy except when talking to the team at the half. Then it seems he has ADD as he talks a mile a minute. :)

(12-03-2018 10:39 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:26 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Why would Brown leave for another G5 job? He is going P5 this year or next.

Because we can pay more. The dude only makes $800,000 a year. I have not heard any noise about him interviewing for P5 jobs. No one thought we would poach Arkansas State's basketball coach either, but we did.

Meh, Troy’s admin/boosters would come through with donations/fundraisers if need be to keep him there. He’s not going anywhere.

(12-04-2018 09:49 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:39 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:26 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Why would Brown leave for another G5 job? He is going P5 this year or next.

Because we can pay more. The dude only makes $800,000 a year. I have not heard any noise about him interviewing for P5 jobs. No one thought we would poach Arkansas State's basketball coach either, but we did.

Meh, Troy’s admin/boosters would come through with donations/fundraisers if need be to keep him there. He’s not going anywhere.

They aren't getting Brown or Napier. Both those guys are looking for P5 jobs.

(12-04-2018 01:05 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 11:04 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Harrell looks like the logical choice, but I don't know enough about him to say he's ready. He does a great job with the offense at least.

In my mind Harrell is NOT the logical choice. First, Baker's hires have been coaches who had previous head coaching experience of which Harrell has none. In fact, his only coaching has been the three years at UNT and one year (I believe) at Washington State as a quarterback or receiver coach. Harrell has the name to recruit this area but not the experience to run a D1 team right now.

Also, I don't know if Harrell wants to be head coach now or ever. He certainly doesn't give off that head coaching vibe. He's usually a very laid back country boy except when talking to the team at the half. Then it seems he has ADD as he talks a mile a minute. :)

Where was Littrell a head coach at prior to UNT?

(12-04-2018 10:27 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 01:05 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 11:04 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Harrell looks like the logical choice, but I don't know enough about him to say he's ready. He does a great job with the offense at least.

In my mind Harrell is NOT the logical choice. First, Baker's hires have been coaches who had previous head coaching experience of which Harrell has none. In fact, his only coaching has been the three years at UNT and one year (I believe) at Washington State as a quarterback or receiver coach. Harrell has the name to recruit this area but not the experience to run a D1 team right now.

Also, I don't know if Harrell wants to be head coach now or ever. He certainly doesn't give off that head coaching vibe. He's usually a very laid back country boy except when talking to the team at the half. Then it seems he has ADD as he talks a mile a minute. :)

Where was Littrell a head coach at prior to UNT?

He wasn't a hc before. Seth was the OC at North Carolina.

(12-04-2018 10:30 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:27 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 01:05 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 11:04 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Harrell looks like the logical choice, but I don't know enough about him to say he's ready. He does a great job with the offense at least.

In my mind Harrell is NOT the logical choice. First, Baker's hires have been coaches who had previous head coaching experience of which Harrell has none. In fact, his only coaching has been the three years at UNT and one year (I believe) at Washington State as a quarterback or receiver coach. Harrell has the name to recruit this area but not the experience to run a D1 team right now.

Also, I don't know if Harrell wants to be head coach now or ever. He certainly doesn't give off that head coaching vibe. He's usually a very laid back country boy except when talking to the team at the half. Then it seems he has ADD as he talks a mile a minute. :)

Where was Littrell a head coach at prior to UNT?

He wasn't a hc before. Seth was the OC at North Carolina.

I didn’t think he was. I’m assuming Baker didn’t make that hire then.

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

(12-04-2018 10:33 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:30 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:27 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 01:05 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 11:04 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Harrell looks like the logical choice, but I don't know enough about him to say he's ready. He does a great job with the offense at least.

In my mind Harrell is NOT the logical choice. First, Baker's hires have been coaches who had previous head coaching experience of which Harrell has none. In fact, his only coaching has been the three years at UNT and one year (I believe) at Washington State as a quarterback or receiver coach. Harrell has the name to recruit this area but not the experience to run a D1 team right now.

Also, I don't know if Harrell wants to be head coach now or ever. He certainly doesn't give off that head coaching vibe. He's usually a very laid back country boy except when talking to the team at the half. Then it seems he has ADD as he talks a mile a minute. :)

Where was Littrell a head coach at prior to UNT?

He wasn't a hc before. Seth was the OC at North Carolina.

I didn’t think he was. I’m assuming Baker didn’t make that hire then.

Seth was hired about 6 months before Baker.

I'm not saying Baker would only hire someone with previous head coaching experience but I think he would want someone like Seth who has a much more extensive coaching background.

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

It’s very rare to see a football coach jump from one G5 job to another. I can’t think of the last time that happened.

(12-04-2018 10:46 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

It’s very rare to see a football coach jump from one G5 job to another. I can’t think of the last time that happened.

Bryan Harsin ... Ark St (2013) to Boise St (2014). This may be the last time.

(12-04-2018 10:53 AM)NorthTexan95 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:46 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

It’s very rare to see a football coach jump from one G5 job to another. I can’t think of the last time that happened.

Bryan Harsin ... Ark St (2013) to Boise St (2014). This may be the last time.

Harsin was not the norm. He was born and raised in Boise. Played high school football in Boise and played for Boise State. Not to mention Boise is the crown jewel of the G5.

Urban Meyer from Bowling Green to Utah.

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

Littrell currently makes 1.4 Million
Brown currently makes 800k

UNT could easily double his salary if they wanted to. I honestly won't be surprised to see them push the next coach to closer to 2 million a year. Somewhere around the 1.8 Million range.

Wren Baker is not Rick Villarreal. What may have been laughable 5 years ago is definitely within the realm of possibility now.

(12-04-2018 11:10 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

Littrell currently makes 1.4 Million
Brown currently makes 800k

UNT could easily double his salary if they wanted to. I honestly won't be surprised to see them push the next coach to closer to 2 million a year. Somewhere around the 1.8 Million range.

Wren Baker is not Rick Villarreal. What may have been laughable 5 years ago is definitely within the realm of possibility now.

Do you also have the three million dollar buyout?

(12-04-2018 11:15 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:10 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 09:40 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The real question is, who does UNT hire if Littrell does move on? Harrell? Do they try and lure Neal Brown away?

Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

Littrell currently makes 1.4 Million
Brown currently makes 800k

UNT could easily double his salary if they wanted to. I honestly won't be surprised to see them push the next coach to closer to 2 million a year. Somewhere around the 1.8 Million range.

Wren Baker is not Rick Villarreal. What may have been laughable 5 years ago is definitely within the realm of possibility now.

Do you also have the three million dollar buyout?

Littrell's buyout would pretty much make that a breakeven

(12-04-2018 11:21 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:15 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:10 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Agreed. Troy fans better pray we don't lose Littrell. I have to believe Brown will be at or near the top of our list.

Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

Littrell currently makes 1.4 Million
Brown currently makes 800k

UNT could easily double his salary if they wanted to. I honestly won't be surprised to see them push the next coach to closer to 2 million a year. Somewhere around the 1.8 Million range.

Wren Baker is not Rick Villarreal. What may have been laughable 5 years ago is definitely within the realm of possibility now.

Do you also have the three million dollar buyout?

Littrell's buyout would pretty much make that a breakeven

Whether it be Brown or someone else, I’m positive Baker will make a good hire if one needs to be made. My money is that it will not be Brown.

(12-04-2018 11:31 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:21 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:15 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:10 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 10:38 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Some of your posts are outright laughable....Zero chance Neil Brown would go from Troy to North Texas....YOu pay more? So he would go to North TExas for maybe 300k more as opposed to going somewhere else that actually pays a lot more like a million more?

Littrell currently makes 1.4 Million
Brown currently makes 800k

UNT could easily double his salary if they wanted to. I honestly won't be surprised to see them push the next coach to closer to 2 million a year. Somewhere around the 1.8 Million range.

Wren Baker is not Rick Villarreal. What may have been laughable 5 years ago is definitely within the realm of possibility now.

Do you also have the three million dollar buyout?

Littrell's buyout would pretty much make that a breakeven

Whether it be Brown or someone else, I’m positive Baker will make a good hire if one needs to be made. My money is that it will not be Brown.

Agreed. I'm not sure Littrell is even leaving yet, and I trust Baker to make a great hire regardless. I was just making the point that affording someone like Brown or Napier is not out of the question at this point in the game.

(12-04-2018 11:36 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:31 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:21 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:15 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(12-04-2018 11:10 AM)MGNation92 Wrote:  Littrell currently makes 1.4 Million
Brown currently makes 800k

UNT could easily double his salary if they wanted to. I honestly won't be surprised to see them push the next coach to closer to 2 million a year. Somewhere around the 1.8 Million range.

Wren Baker is not Rick Villarreal. What may have been laughable 5 years ago is definitely within the realm of possibility now.

Do you also have the three million dollar buyout?

Littrell's buyout would pretty much make that a breakeven

Whether it be Brown or someone else, I’m positive Baker will make a good hire if one needs to be made. My money is that it will not be Brown.

Agreed. I'm not sure Littrell is even leaving yet, and I trust Baker to make a great hire regardless. I was just making the point that affording someone like Brown or Napier is not out of the question at this point in the game.

I believe your university can afford it. A lot of times it takes more than money to buy another man’s loyalty. For example, I’m sure if Houston wanted Littrell they could afford his buyout and a nice raise. Do you think Littrell would take the bait?