(11-28-2018 05:39 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  If that's close to true and App wins the SBCCG I hope the Belt can convince NOLA to take ULM

That'd be a great matchup if it's Cincy vs. App. But New Orleans may not be willing to give up a conference champ for a 6-6 team.

(11-28-2018 05:39 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  If that's close to true and App wins the SBCCG I hope the Belt can convince NOLA to take ULM

I don't understand the Sun Belt's thinking of requiring the SBC Champ to go to NOLA when C-USA may send a 6-5 Southern Miss team. It would be a bad look for the conference when the Sun Belt is ranked ahead of C-USA in every calculation that I've seen.

Assuming the Birmingham Bowl opened up for the Sun Belt, App (assuming a win on Saturday) should make a huge push to the league office to get that Bowl invite.

https://twitter.com/troyfans1/status/106...12705?s=21

(11-28-2018 06:41 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/troyfans1/status/106...12705?s=21

Garbage if it happens. The Sun Belt should send ULM to NOLA and App to Birmingham if this happens. Louisiana deserves a shot at an AAC squad as well in Orlando.

However, I suppose this is why ESPN likes to bring added suspense to the situation. Most likely the Sun Belt Champion will end up in NOLA against a bottom rung C-USA team further perpetuating the myth that the Sun Belt is below C-USA.

(11-28-2018 06:41 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/troyfans1/status/106...12705?s=21

Mobile would throw a fit if they got stuck with ulm. It’s not happening

(11-28-2018 06:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 05:39 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  If that's close to true and App wins the SBCCG I hope the Belt can convince NOLA to take ULM

That'd be a great matchup if it's Cincy vs. App. But New Orleans may not be willing to give up a conference champ for a 6-6 team.

Well they may end up getting a 6-6 C-USA team which isn't fair to the Sun Belt either. If anything the Sun Belt should be sending ULM to play MTSU or UAB while Louisiana and App go to Orlando and Birmingham to take on AAC schools. We were all pleasantly surprised when the Sun Belt finally surpassed C-USA 2 seasons ago; now we are at the third straight season where the Sun Belt has finished above C-USA and two seasons above the MAC. The only reason there wasn't three is because of Western Michigan.

The idea that the Sun Belt is relegated to playing two MAC schools, potentially a 3rd place divisional team from C-USA, a MWC school who could be a 1st place division winner or 4th place, is garbage. While I don't like the Bowl locations for C-USA, their opponents are far more interesting, as a whole.

(11-28-2018 06:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:41 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/troyfans1/status/106...12705?s=21

Mobile would throw a fit if they got stuck with ulm. It’s not happening

Bingo!!!!! No way in hades

Heck, we’d be happy to give up Birmingham to any of y’all to play in whatever bowl, especially NOLA. Of course, we’ll happily take Birmingham against Cincy too. Anywhere, just give us a bowl.

(11-28-2018 08:00 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Heck, we’d be happy to give up Birmingham to any of y’all to play in whatever bowl, especially NOLA. Of course, we’ll happily take Birmingham against Cincy too. Anywhere, just give us a bowl.

Seconded

(11-28-2018 06:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:41 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/troyfans1/status/106...12705?s=21

Mobile would throw a fit if they got stuck with ulm. It’s not happening

So, GS to Mobile and ULM to Montgomery?

(11-28-2018 08:59 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:41 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/troyfans1/status/106...12705?s=21

Mobile would throw a fit if they got stuck with ulm. It’s not happening

So, GS to Mobile and ULM to Montgomery?

And then Montgomery throws a fit

Well damn, we aren’t that bad a team for people to throw fits Put over 41,000 at our only bowl we have been to and don’t tell me that was Ohio fans.

(11-28-2018 09:05 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Well damn, we aren’t that bad a team for people to throw fits Put over 41,000 at our only bowl we have been to and don’t tell me that was Ohio fans.

It’s more related to pecking order. Mobile and Montgomery both had to make selections in order for zona to take Astate. If espn was going to find Troy an opening in Birmingham mobile is going to want to know why they couldn’t take Astate or southern

With all the damn sourness about bowls I say we just quit participating.

So Party A says "we will promise you a spot and this much money if you will give us first selection." and the response is yeah well we want the promise of a spot but if I can get a side chick for one game, I'd rather have her.

(11-28-2018 06:29 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 02:21 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 01:10 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 01:05 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  This morning there are 81 bowl eligible teams for 78 spots. Virginia Tech can get bowl eligible next week and probably will.

That means four teams will be left out.

And, I'm afraid ULM will be in that number. Along with Eastern Michigan Wyoming and Miami (O).

Hope I'm wrong. Would love to see all six teams get in.


Here is my bowl prediction:

NO--App/UL winner
Dollar General: App/UL loser.
Camellia: Should be Troy but they will probably get Orlando. That means Georgia Southern goes here.
Cure: Should be Georgia Southern, but Troy doesn't want Montgomery. Trojans go here.
Arizona: Arkansas State

So, a CUSA team will play a part in getting a P5 a bowl spot to the detriment of a G5, and the CUSA doesn’t pay the price?

Shrewd.

haha, come on man. You would have to say the same for every single 6-6 P5 team who beat a G5 earlier in the season too.

Also, I'm confident that CUSA will not have to "pay the price." I'm pretty confident all 7 of our bowl eligible teams will get in just like last year when I think we had 9 teams get in.

As for the App fan saying Marshall should have to stay home if we lose that will never happen. Marshall is one of the best brands in CUSA and G5. Just like App State is the best brand in the Sun Belt. No way you guys ever stay home if you are bowl eligible either. ESPN will find App a bowl game somewhere because you are valuable. Probably the most valuable in the Sun Belt because you have an actual fan base.

Also, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there is a great chance we lose this game. We are an OK team but not great. Overall a decent year considering we had a FR QB, lost starting RB to injury, and breaking in both an offensive and defensive coordinator in their first years. Marshall football seems to be stuck in no man's land. Our coach is good enough to keep us consistently winning 8-10 games per year but we have only gotten over the hump one time with him. Even then, we lost a game we shouldn't.

Hopefully we find a way to win and help get another G5 brother a bowl bid.

I’m half kidding, though I don’t really like that a non-CUSA school will sit at home should y’all lose. Because there are over 80 eligible teams, we will never really know which team/conference will lose out on the bowl money (again, should you all lose), but you can’t deny that Marshall and the CUSA is profiting at the expense of another G5 conference and league.

That said, the ACC home-and-home is hard to turn down, and I’m hoping we would’ve done the same if we were in your position. My hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Really? If we win (which is possible as the spread is VT -4.5) we will be 9-3. If not, 8-4. You seriously think an 8-4 team should stay home? Wow.

(11-29-2018 03:32 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:29 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 02:21 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 01:10 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 01:05 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  This morning there are 81 bowl eligible teams for 78 spots. Virginia Tech can get bowl eligible next week and probably will.

That means four teams will be left out.

And, I'm afraid ULM will be in that number. Along with Eastern Michigan Wyoming and Miami (O).

Hope I'm wrong. Would love to see all six teams get in.


Here is my bowl prediction:

NO--App/UL winner
Dollar General: App/UL loser.
Camellia: Should be Troy but they will probably get Orlando. That means Georgia Southern goes here.
Cure: Should be Georgia Southern, but Troy doesn't want Montgomery. Trojans go here.
Arizona: Arkansas State

So, a CUSA team will play a part in getting a P5 a bowl spot to the detriment of a G5, and the CUSA doesn’t pay the price?

Shrewd.

haha, come on man. You would have to say the same for every single 6-6 P5 team who beat a G5 earlier in the season too.

Also, I'm confident that CUSA will not have to "pay the price." I'm pretty confident all 7 of our bowl eligible teams will get in just like last year when I think we had 9 teams get in.

As for the App fan saying Marshall should have to stay home if we lose that will never happen. Marshall is one of the best brands in CUSA and G5. Just like App State is the best brand in the Sun Belt. No way you guys ever stay home if you are bowl eligible either. ESPN will find App a bowl game somewhere because you are valuable. Probably the most valuable in the Sun Belt because you have an actual fan base.

Also, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there is a great chance we lose this game. We are an OK team but not great. Overall a decent year considering we had a FR QB, lost starting RB to injury, and breaking in both an offensive and defensive coordinator in their first years. Marshall football seems to be stuck in no man's land. Our coach is good enough to keep us consistently winning 8-10 games per year but we have only gotten over the hump one time with him. Even then, we lost a game we shouldn't.

Hopefully we find a way to win and help get another G5 brother a bowl bid.

I’m half kidding, though I don’t really like that a non-CUSA school will sit at home should y’all lose. Because there are over 80 eligible teams, we will never really know which team/conference will lose out on the bowl money (again, should you all lose), but you can’t deny that Marshall and the CUSA is profiting at the expense of another G5 conference and league.

That said, the ACC home-and-home is hard to turn down, and I’m hoping we would’ve done the same if we were in your position. My hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Really? If we win (which is possible as the spread is VT -4.5) we will be 9-3. If not, 8-4. You seriously think an 8-4 team should stay home? Wow.

No CUSA team will stay home because win or lose you have 7 Bowl teams for 7 Bowls. It's a non-issue because VT would most likely have beaten ECU had they actually played this year and already be eligible.

Crazy how the perception of our conference does not match the on-field results the last 5 years.

The Sun Belt finished second in bowl winning percentage among all 10 FBS conferences in both 2016 and 2017 while also finishing fourth in 2015. Reaching back to the 2014 season, no conference has a better total bowl winning percentage (.611) than the Sun Belt Conference. Further, the Sun Belt has won more games during that four-year period (11) than its peers: the American Athletic Conference (10) and the Mid-American Conference (6). That fact is staggering when considering the Sun Belt has reached its win mark despite those conferences having more opportunities to win games (AAC – 27, MAC – 23, Sun Belt – 17).

It helps we have no bowl games matching us with a P5.


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(11-30-2018 11:49 AM)PrideoftheStAte Wrote:  Crazy how the perception of our conference does not match the on-field results the last 5 years.

The Sun Belt finished second in bowl winning percentage among all 10 FBS conferences in both 2016 and 2017 while also finishing fourth in 2015. Reaching back to the 2014 season, no conference has a better total bowl winning percentage (.611) than the Sun Belt Conference. Further, the Sun Belt has won more games during that four-year period (11) than its peers: the American Athletic Conference (10) and the Mid-American Conference (6). That fact is staggering when considering the Sun Belt has reached its win mark despite those conferences having more opportunities to win games (AAC – 27, MAC – 23, Sun Belt – 17).

The next Commissioner really needs to focus on promoting the Sun Belt's success in this area. Most people including many of the media members who vote in the polls really have no idea how much the conference has improved compared to our fellow G5 conferences. We all know the whole P6 thing is a scam, but the AAC's perception has benefited a good bit from it. We don't need to go that far, but we have plenty to talk about.

(11-29-2018 03:43 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(11-29-2018 03:32 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 06:29 AM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 02:21 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(11-25-2018 01:10 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  So, a CUSA team will play a part in getting a P5 a bowl spot to the detriment of a G5, and the CUSA doesn’t pay the price?

Shrewd.

haha, come on man. You would have to say the same for every single 6-6 P5 team who beat a G5 earlier in the season too.

Also, I'm confident that CUSA will not have to "pay the price." I'm pretty confident all 7 of our bowl eligible teams will get in just like last year when I think we had 9 teams get in.

As for the App fan saying Marshall should have to stay home if we lose that will never happen. Marshall is one of the best brands in CUSA and G5. Just like App State is the best brand in the Sun Belt. No way you guys ever stay home if you are bowl eligible either. ESPN will find App a bowl game somewhere because you are valuable. Probably the most valuable in the Sun Belt because you have an actual fan base.

Also, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but there is a great chance we lose this game. We are an OK team but not great. Overall a decent year considering we had a FR QB, lost starting RB to injury, and breaking in both an offensive and defensive coordinator in their first years. Marshall football seems to be stuck in no man's land. Our coach is good enough to keep us consistently winning 8-10 games per year but we have only gotten over the hump one time with him. Even then, we lost a game we shouldn't.

Hopefully we find a way to win and help get another G5 brother a bowl bid.

I’m half kidding, though I don’t really like that a non-CUSA school will sit at home should y’all lose. Because there are over 80 eligible teams, we will never really know which team/conference will lose out on the bowl money (again, should you all lose), but you can’t deny that Marshall and the CUSA is profiting at the expense of another G5 conference and league.

That said, the ACC home-and-home is hard to turn down, and I’m hoping we would’ve done the same if we were in your position. My hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Really? If we win (which is possible as the spread is VT -4.5) we will be 9-3. If not, 8-4. You seriously think an 8-4 team should stay home? Wow.

No CUSA team will stay home because win or lose you have 7 Bowl teams for 7 Bowls. It's a non-issue because VT would most likely have beaten ECU had they actually played this year and already be eligible.

No no, I get that. I was trying to wrap my mind around his line of thinking (keeping an 8-4/9-3 team home and sending 6-5 and 6-6 teams ahead of us.