David, is not a part of this team, forget about him,he is sitting on a bench somewhere over the pcean

Owens will be our PG at some point soon. He has the ability and can shoot too. Let's not get too concerned when we're losing to Notre Dame, an ACC school. Two PGs with a total of almost no real college experience in Loewe and Scott might not play well against a team like this. With that said, we win this game if Pierce plays. This team is going to be very tough to beat when everyone is healthy. Great OOC schedule.

Tony said he felt allowing them 16 offensive rebounds and not being able to keep them off the free throw line were two of the biggest reasons for the ND loss. Said we played hard, but need to be more effective running our offense. Mentioned the need for better point guard play. Said the young guys are learning from being out there. Said it will be good to get home.

(11-17-2018 07:56 PM)billymac Wrote:  Tony said ... it will be good to get home.

Right on! I thought that they would be 3-1 at this point --- and they actually could have been. No Pierce today made it very hard today from the get go. No Nathan Thursday was the same (what's that you say, Nathan did play on Thursday?).

So, did Nathan play so much differently today, more under control, or was it truly just a matter of how the game was called? If the former, then good golly Nate, we need more of what you did today and a whole lot less of what you did Thursday. If the latter, then nothing could be done and all he could do is walk away and say "for shame" (on the refs).

Still waiting for that game where the big 3 all play well at the same time (Nathan got 11 points in game 1 but I'm talking about closer to 17-20).

Unfortunately, it looks like there are some games where we miss Rowley more than others.

Now a really good Radford team on short rest. Hopefully Pierce will be back.

We are going to have ups and downs with so many fresh. playing.

Quinn Blair's 4th foul and ND stretching the lead happened around the same time. We were short-handed on the boards to begin with and couldn't lose anyone. It's a testament to the team that we were in the game until the end despite getting crushed on the offensive glass. At some point moral victories have to turn into real victories, but luckily for us that point isn't until February or March.

Real victories, unfortunately, don't suddenly start in February/March.

Watching the game for the first time on replay, and have to agree that our PG play is very poor. Along with turnovers, it's hard to watch our PG repeatedly run down to the corner of the court and let our center, or someone else, bring the ball up the court. I'm not sure we have anyone being well coached into what our PG needs to be for this team to be successful. It's pretty simple; go get the ball, put pressure on the defense by initiating the offense, and make sure everyone runs the offense. It can't be PG by committee. That may be less about missing David Cohn and more about the loss of Kotie Kimble.

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Putting Owens at the point would be, IMO, as big a mistake as when they put Marcus at the point. Sure, he can function in that role, but it will hold his game back. Owens is a scorer and slasher. Putting the ball in his hands keeps him from coming off picks and cutting to the hoop. It makes his number 1 responsibility to the run the offense. Owens is a player that can create shots on a team that struggles to create.

With the results so far, I'm not adverse to trying it out. I'm just not sure if it is best for the team or LJ with him at the point.

What do you expect at PG with almost no game day experience in College at PG? We sow the seeds that we plant.

Lowe can shoot and Coach states he is out best defender. Owens is a starter but not PG

We need a PG to RUN the offense

Right now both Lowe and Scott looking over the shoulder which hurts confidence

Just the way it is

(11-18-2018 08:30 AM)wmmii Wrote:  What do you expect at PG with almost no game day experience in College at PG? We sow the seeds that we plant.

Lowe can shoot and Coach states he is out best defender. Owens is a starter but not PG

We need a PG to RUN the offense

Right now both Lowe and Peterson looking over the shoulder which hurts confidence

Just the way it is

Who is Peterson? Do you mean Thornton Scott?

(11-18-2018 08:37 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(11-18-2018 08:30 AM)wmmii Wrote:  What do you expect at PG with almost no game day experience in College at PG? We sow the seeds that we plant.

Lowe can shoot and Coach states he is out best defender. Owens is a starter but not PG

We need a PG to RUN the offense

Right now both Lowe and Peterson looking over the shoulder which hurts confidence

Just the way it is

Who is Peterson? Do you mean Thornton Scott?

Brain malfunction after us losing twice yesterday-thanks!

(11-17-2018 10:12 PM)Tribeheart Wrote:  I'm not sure we have anyone being well coached into what our PG needs to be for this team to be successful. It's pretty simple; go get the ball, put pressure on the defense by initiating the offense, and make sure everyone runs the offense.

Somebody call Shaver. Guy with all the answers found on the internet.

Did you see how "go get the ball" worked in the High Point game? That's what everyone is talking about with the loss of Cohn. We don't have someone that has shown the ability to "go get the ball". I would like to see Loewe and Scott try to use their height on an inbounds play, though. Figure out how to use strengths instead of letting the opponents attack our weaknesses.

Point guard problem is not athletic ability or ball handling skills. It is 100% poor decision making and lack of focus at key times leading to unforced turnovers. We win that game easy with Justin, Notre Dame is going to get killed in the ACC this year. Need to get healthy fast.

(11-18-2018 08:48 AM)Tribester Wrote:  Point guard problem is not athletic ability or ball handling skills. It is 100% poor decision making and lack of focus at key times leading to unforced turnovers. We win that game easy with Justin, Notre Dame is going to get killed in the ACC this year. Need to get healthy fast.

Agreed and is only resolved with sufficient experience by the right player who is not constantly worried if the next mistake leads to the bench. Up to Shaver to make the call.

(11-18-2018 09:12 AM)wmmii Wrote:  [quote='Tribester' pid='15678431' dateline='1542548933']
Point guard problem is not athletic ability or ball handling skills. It is 100% poor decision making and lack of focus at key times leading to unforced turnovers. We win that game easy with Justin, Notre Dame is going to get killed in the ACC this year. Need to get healthy fast.

Agreed and is only resolved with sufficient experience by the right player who is not constantly worried if the next mistake leads to the bench. Up to Shaver to make the call.
I have the answer, let's just blame poor point guard play when we loose.When we win, and we will,we can give credit to every other position on the team,as you all will.

No one has said Scott or Loewe can't get the job done. They are young and I expect growing pains. The only point was, so far, they haven't got the job done. We all hope that things at the point guard spot will improve. We are a high octane offense that requires getting the ball to guys in rhythm to really function at a high level. Isolation 1 on 1 play is not how this team is built to run. On any basketball team, 3 times as many TOs as assists from your point guard spot is devastating and deserves criticism.