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(11-15-2018 07:39 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 06:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 04:56 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Contemplate this for a moment...

The CFP rankings this week has 8 "3-loss" teams...including one that is only 6-3 right now...ranked ahead of 9-1 Utah State and Cincinnati, and 8-2 Boise State.

The CFP rankings this week also has 2 "4-loss" teams ahead of 9-1 Utah State and Cincinnati.

Now granted, UC's "strength of schedule" hasn't been that great this year, but the CFP committee deems 9 win "g5" teams to be less-than-equal to 3 6 win programs.

Even running the table, a 2-loss "Power" conference team will get into the CFP before a "g5" team will. It is what it is; we're on the outside, looking in.

I get the point you're trying to make, but UC is also ranked higher in the CFP rankings than they are in multiple good computer rankings. They are 29 in S&P+ (UCF is 7 in S&P+ BTW). I'm not a huge fan of the committee and agree they favor big conference teams, but we have not seen a situation where a smaller conference team has a huge win or two over real contenders.

Yeah, I mean, the numbers are pretty clear-> all the G5 teams just have really poor SOS compared to the other schools. I think Boise is the only G5 Top 25 team to even get above 100.

Yeah, it's hard to argue that although I think that is only through games played. The point being that our SOS stands to get a nice bump up after playing UCF and hopefully a CCG against Houston.

(11-15-2018 08:51 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 07:39 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 06:18 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 04:56 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Contemplate this for a moment...

The CFP rankings this week has 8 "3-loss" teams...including one that is only 6-3 right now...ranked ahead of 9-1 Utah State and Cincinnati, and 8-2 Boise State.

The CFP rankings this week also has 2 "4-loss" teams ahead of 9-1 Utah State and Cincinnati.

Now granted, UC's "strength of schedule" hasn't been that great this year, but the CFP committee deems 9 win "g5" teams to be less-than-equal to 3 6 win programs.

Even running the table, a 2-loss "Power" conference team will get into the CFP before a "g5" team will. It is what it is; we're on the outside, looking in.

I get the point you're trying to make, but UC is also ranked higher in the CFP rankings than they are in multiple good computer rankings. They are 29 in S&P+ (UCF is 7 in S&P+ BTW). I'm not a huge fan of the committee and agree they favor big conference teams, but we have not seen a situation where a smaller conference team has a huge win or two over real contenders.

Yeah, I mean, the numbers are pretty clear-> all the G5 teams just have really poor SOS compared to the other schools. I think Boise is the only G5 Top 25 team to even get above 100.

Yeah, it's hard to argue that although I think that is only through games played. The point being that our SOS stands to get a nice bump up after playing UCF and hopefully a CCG against Houston.

I've always said that it's a two year process for a G5 to get in. You need the setup season and then you need to show up the next year and run the table. Houston had the setup season but then crapped the bed in year two. UCF is seemingly putting together the two year run, but their horrible SoS is what the P5 will use to keep them out. If UC wins out, beats a P5 in the access bowl, and runs the table next year beating one perennial top 5 blueblood and another historically strong P5, then the committee is going to have to twist themselves into knots to try and rationalize keeping them out, and if they do, it'll probably be the final straw (combined with other factors like the B1G missing multiple years) to finally get an 8 team playoff.