It’s a huge fallacy that almost everyone reading this is Christian.

(10-16-2018 01:12 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  It’s a huge fallacy that almost everyone reading this is Christian.

Yep. Not this poster.

(10-15-2018 08:07 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:42 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  Seems a little disengenious for a faith based evangelical organization to spend 40 million a year on athletics. Just a thought.

You mean like BYU?

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Boom!! Exactly.

(10-15-2018 06:09 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Liberty University receives over a half a billion dollars annually from the federal government for online worthless college classes that they sell that rarely result in a degree being earned. I don't think we owe them anything in fact I think they owe every taxpayer in the United States of America a great, great amount.

That is why they have the money to have a beautiful campus and Facilities. We all paid for it.

Purdue is the up and coming online University. "With the acquisition of Kaplan University and the creation of Purdue Global, Purdue has suddenly transformed itself into a national leader in online education, with almost as many students online as we have at the West Lafayette campus!"

https://www.purdue.edu/ap4de/

(10-16-2018 05:12 AM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:09 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Liberty University receives over a half a billion dollars annually from the federal government for online worthless college classes that they sell that rarely result in a degree being earned. I don't think we owe them anything in fact I think they owe every taxpayer in the United States of America a great, great amount.

That is why they have the money to have a beautiful campus and Facilities. We all paid for it.

Purdue is the up and coming online University. "With the acquisition of Kaplan University and the creation of Purdue Global, Purdue has suddenly transformed itself into a national leader in online education, with almost as many students online as we have at the West Lafayette campus!"

https://www.purdue.edu/ap4de/

~41,000 on-campus students and ~30,000 online students is still MUCH different than the ~15,000 on-campus students and ~100,000 online students that Liberty has. If you combine Purdue and Purdue Global then 42% of all Purdue students are online. Compare that to Liberty, which stands at least at 87% online enrollment. I say at least because Liberty doesn’t even publish the full number of online students. Everything I’ve seen just shows 100,000+ so the exact number isn’t even released.

(10-16-2018 06:02 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 05:12 AM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:09 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Liberty University receives over a half a billion dollars annually from the federal government for online worthless college classes that they sell that rarely result in a degree being earned. I don't think we owe them anything in fact I think they owe every taxpayer in the United States of America a great, great amount.

That is why they have the money to have a beautiful campus and Facilities. We all paid for it.

Purdue is the up and coming online University. "With the acquisition of Kaplan University and the creation of Purdue Global, Purdue has suddenly transformed itself into a national leader in online education, with almost as many students online as we have at the West Lafayette campus!"

https://www.purdue.edu/ap4de/

~41,000 on-campus students and ~30,000 online students is still MUCH different than the ~15,000 on-campus students and ~100,000 online students that Liberty has. If you combine Purdue and Purdue Global then 42% of all Purdue students are online. Compare that to Liberty, which stands at least at 87% online enrollment. I say at least because Liberty doesn’t even publish the full number of online students. Everything I’ve seen just shows 100,000+ so the exact number isn’t even released.

Just give Purdue a little more time.

ASU has like 60k online students.

Oh god they've found the thread.

Abort. Abort.

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(10-16-2018 06:06 AM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 06:02 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 05:12 AM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:09 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Liberty University receives over a half a billion dollars annually from the federal government for online worthless college classes that they sell that rarely result in a degree being earned. I don't think we owe them anything in fact I think they owe every taxpayer in the United States of America a great, great amount.

That is why they have the money to have a beautiful campus and Facilities. We all paid for it.

Purdue is the up and coming online University. "With the acquisition of Kaplan University and the creation of Purdue Global, Purdue has suddenly transformed itself into a national leader in online education, with almost as many students online as we have at the West Lafayette campus!"

https://www.purdue.edu/ap4de/

~41,000 on-campus students and ~30,000 online students is still MUCH different than the ~15,000 on-campus students and ~100,000 online students that Liberty has. If you combine Purdue and Purdue Global then 42% of all Purdue students are online. Compare that to Liberty, which stands at least at 87% online enrollment. I say at least because Liberty doesn’t even publish the full number of online students. Everything I’ve seen just shows 100,000+ so the exact number isn’t even released.

Just give Purdue a little more time.

If Purdue on-campus enrollment remained the same, they would have to grow to 315,000 online students to reach the same level Liberty.

(10-16-2018 06:13 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  ASU has like 60k online students.

They also have a good number of on-campus students:
51,164 Tempe campus
11,465 Downtown Phoenix campus
4,809 Polytechnic campus
4,063 West campus
327 Thunderbird School

I LOL'd at every post on here. Ya'll do know that arguing about collegesis pointless right? Every single college degree from every single university is worthless. It doesn't actually do anything for you. They're all designed like a box to teach people to think a certain way, be a certain way. Do you not notice that at all? For example, Trump. What thougths did that generate? For the anti Trumps, it generated the same thought patterns. Same goes for the pro Trumpers. Because that's the way you're molded to think by what you expose yourself to. You think you're different, think different, but you aren't and you don't. Maybe, if we're lucky, 1 of every 100 actually knows how to think outside the box if college doesn't kill that first.
Am I a Christian? I attend a messianic synagoguge. Do I believe the earth is young? Yes. Do I give a crap what people think of that? lolz - I grew up deaf in a public school, so I learned to have thick, calloused skin when I was like, 5. I learned a long time ago that people act en masse, desperate to be included in the majority. It's pathetic and sad really. Bullying never changes, just wears shinier shoes, fancier clothes, and more sophisticated than grade school - and that's exactly what is going on in this thread. My thoughts might cause many to think I'm a fool. For the record, I have a 136 IQ, BBA, and MBA in Accounting and Finance. Football is football. Quit being sensitive and politically correct. It kills everything, including football.

(10-16-2018 06:17 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 06:06 AM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 06:02 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 05:12 AM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:09 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Liberty University receives over a half a billion dollars annually from the federal government for online worthless college classes that they sell that rarely result in a degree being earned. I don't think we owe them anything in fact I think they owe every taxpayer in the United States of America a great, great amount.

That is why they have the money to have a beautiful campus and Facilities. We all paid for it.

Purdue is the up and coming online University. "With the acquisition of Kaplan University and the creation of Purdue Global, Purdue has suddenly transformed itself into a national leader in online education, with almost as many students online as we have at the West Lafayette campus!"

https://www.purdue.edu/ap4de/

~41,000 on-campus students and ~30,000 online students is still MUCH different than the ~15,000 on-campus students and ~100,000 online students that Liberty has. If you combine Purdue and Purdue Global then 42% of all Purdue students are online. Compare that to Liberty, which stands at least at 87% online enrollment. I say at least because Liberty doesn’t even publish the full number of online students. Everything I’ve seen just shows 100,000+ so the exact number isn’t even released.

Just give Purdue a little more time.

If Purdue on-campus enrollment remained the same, they would have to grow to 315,000 online students to reach the same level Liberty.

Why do you think they named it Purdue Global!
https://www.purdueglobal.edu/

(10-15-2018 08:29 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 08:17 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Liberty has better overall facilities than anyone in the SB thanks to Arthur Williams, not the US taxpayers. I just don't get all the hostility.

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I care nothing about the arguing. It’s silly. The facilities are good. From Tennis all the way up or Football. They are legitimate.


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I agree that Liberty's profile doesn't match the SBC, so it's not the right fit. The Big South probably wasn't either, so we are indeed misfits. I still don't understand the point about disparaging the online number versus the residential number. That's a result of getting into the market early. Why is success bad? If you want to say it's a poor education, then that's a different argument then just declaring an arbitrary online to resident ratio as acceptable according to a non-existent standard.

Now that everyone is moving in that direction, the market will be saturated with options and Liberty will never have the same exponential growth again.

(10-15-2018 09:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 08:12 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 07:25 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Doesn’t matter how good they are. (They are not). We’re not inviting a private school to a league of public schools

Kinda like the big public universities in the ACC shouldn't have teamed up with Duke, Wake Forest, Miami and Boston College.

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Are you trying to compare the Sun Belt to the ACC? They are two entirely different situations.

In a way yes. Why is not OK for a private school to be aligned with public universities in the Sunbelt, but it's perfectly fine in the ACC, SEC, Big Ten, PAC 12 and others?

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I have no love for Liberty University, but some of the hyperbole on this thread is a stretch.

Many schools have large online programs, I see no problem with it and think it is the future.

Every school is getting fat on low interest student loans. And every school, whether online or on-campus have many students who have gone into debt for classes without completing their degree or getting worthless degrees. I do have a problem with this but Liberty is not unique in this regard.

An independent Liberty football program is right where they belong. It fits the school and their goals. I'm glad they are not in the SBC, but I wish them luck. I've said all along that they will be successful, and I still think they will be.

(10-16-2018 01:12 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  It’s a huge fallacy that almost everyone reading this is Christian.

But there sure are a lot of Holier-than-thou folks here.

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(10-16-2018 06:32 AM)stingingeagle Wrote:  I LOL'd at every post on here. Ya'll do know that arguing about collegesis pointless right? Every single college degree from every single university is worthless. It doesn't actually do anything for you. They're all designed like a box to teach people to think a certain way, be a certain way. Do you not notice that at all? For example, Trump. What thougths did that generate? For the anti Trumps, it generated the same thought patterns. Same goes for the pro Trumpers. Because that's the way you're molded to think by what you expose yourself to. You think you're different, think different, but you aren't and you don't. Maybe, if we're lucky, 1 of every 100 actually knows how to think outside the box if college doesn't kill that first.

Cool story, bro. You'll have to email this to every employer out there who has ever required a college degree for certain jobs. I'm sure they'll be moved.

When I say jobs didn't require degrees? I realize Georgia Southern isn't exactly ivy league, but congratulations on making the correct determination that jobs require degrees. Good on you, bro!

(10-16-2018 07:16 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(10-16-2018 06:32 AM)stingingeagle Wrote:  I LOL'd at every post on here. Ya'll do know that arguing about collegesis pointless right? Every single college degree from every single university is worthless. It doesn't actually do anything for you. They're all designed like a box to teach people to think a certain way, be a certain way. Do you not notice that at all? For example, Trump. What thougths did that generate? For the anti Trumps, it generated the same thought patterns. Same goes for the pro Trumpers. Because that's the way you're molded to think by what you expose yourself to. You think you're different, think different, but you aren't and you don't. Maybe, if we're lucky, 1 of every 100 actually knows how to think outside the box if college doesn't kill that first.

Cool story, bro. You'll have to email this to every employer out there who has ever required a college degree for certain jobs. I'm sure they'll be moved.

(10-16-2018 07:21 AM)stingingeagle Wrote:  When I say jobs didn't require degrees? I realize Georgia Southern isn't exactly ivy league, but congratulations on making the correct determination that jobs require degrees. Good on you, bro!

(10-16-2018 06:32 AM)stingingeagle Wrote:  Every single college degree from every single university is worthless. It doesn't actually do anything for you.